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"One of America's top talk superstars" coming to WHIO.

nmoore6676 said:
alans613 said:
Sorry, but I find Glenn Beck to be a Rush-wanna-be, and to claim that the President is a racist is too far out there for me. I find Rush to be a hate-monger, but Beck is not only a hate monger but also a fear monger.

The President calling the Cambridge MA. police actions stupid after making the observation that he did not know all of the facts does to me show some prejudice. Then you have his association with Rev. Wright for twenty years. Maybe not a racist but certainly not very fair minded. Glenn Beck does what he does to make a point. I enjoy him and listen to him but I can not take over 15 minutes worth of Rush. Hannity is only a little less extreme so I would call him Rush-Lite, not Beck.

To all who are critical of Beck, I suggest that you get his books, especially "Common Sense" or his newest, "Arguing With Idiots" and take the time to research his points and "facts". He is not perfect but he is trying to get out the truth, if he is also entertaining then that is just good radio, and television and he isn't making me afraid but the politicians certainly are.

Beck makes his living by appealing not to the intellect of his listeners/viewers, but their emotions. It's a fairly common practice among cable news entertainers. Make your audience scared or angry about anything, from the gummint taking your guns, "death panels", pink-pistol carrying lesbian gangs roaming the streets of DC (thank you Bill O'Reilly), basically anything. Create an "us versus them" mentality so the audience thinks they can only trust you, and then you can get them to do anything, for instance, march on Washington DC. Sometimes visibly crying on the air helps, but I'm not really sure why.
 
Beck is just doing it for The Love Of Money and nothing else. Being emotional is part of his act just like when He was a Morning Zoo show host which is what He was and still is, only now his audience is pandering to the extreme right wing extremists who watch Fox News.
 
almaniac27 said:

Beck makes his living by appealing not to the intellect of his listeners/viewers, but their emotions. It's a fairly common practice among cable news entertainers. Make your audience scared or angry about anything, from the gummint taking your guns, "death panels", pink-pistol carrying lesbian gangs roaming the streets of DC (thank you Bill O'Reilly), basically anything. Create an "us versus them" mentality so the audience thinks they can only trust you, and then you can get them to do anything, for instance, march on Washington DC. Sometimes visibly crying on the air helps, but I'm not really sure why.

...from the same lunatics who brought you Joe Pyne,Willis Carto,Bob Bartel and Alan Stang.
 
microbob said:
Beck is just doing it for The Love Of Money and nothing else. Being emotional is part of his act just like when He was a Morning Zoo show host which is what He was and still is, only now his audience is pandering to the extreme right wing extremists who watch Fox News.

Well first of all, Fox News is far and away the number 1 news network in the country. You can't marginalize the viewership of Fox like that when the majority of cable news viewers are watching them rather than the competition. That would be defined as "mainstream". You may not like the current state of "mainstream" in the USA, but it is what it is.

Second- you are implying that Glenn doesn't really believe the things he is saying. I happen to know Glenn. He worked with me at WHIO sister station WRKA- Louisville in 1985-87. There is no doubt that he is a showman. But I assure you he believes everything he is saying.

Do you have any support for your assertions, or are you just saying that because you don't like what he's saying?
 
So when Beck had his botched-ass surgery while at CNN, he called his experience abominable. Now at Fox, he calls the US system the best in the world. Yup, he believes everything he's saying.
 
trojanrabbit said:
So when Beck had his botched-ass surgery while at CNN, he called his experience abominable. Now at Fox, he calls the US system the best in the world. Yup, he believes everything he's saying.




I guess Fox has a better insurance plan! When you make what these clowns do , it doesn't matter how much you have to contribute to it! Everything's great when you're rich!
 
kirkiefan said:
almaniac27 said:

Beck makes his living by appealing not to the intellect of his listeners/viewers, but their emotions. It's a fairly common practice among cable news entertainers. Make your audience scared or angry about anything, from the gummint taking your guns, "death panels", pink-pistol carrying lesbian gangs roaming the streets of DC (thank you Bill O'Reilly), basically anything. Create an "us versus them" mentality so the audience thinks they can only trust you, and then you can get them to do anything, for instance, march on Washington DC. Sometimes visibly crying on the air helps, but I'm not really sure why.

...from the same lunatics who brought you Joe Pyne,Willis Carto,Bob Bartel and Alan Stang.

I don't recall any of those, except for Joe Pyne, who gave rise to Morton Downey Jr. and Wally George. I never took any of them seriously. I accept that basing your entire world view on a talk show host is dangerous, however I still say read Beck's books, then judge him with the facts, not sound bites from other sources. Until Rush, talk radio was mostly "here's a topic, now lets go to the phones". There are all kinds of worthy hosts now and some are more entertaining than others. Some are more informative but maybe less entertaining and in my humble opinion Beck is the best balance of both on the air currently. Our nation is in crisis and is being transformed in a progressive mold, look it up, and Glenn Beck is only trying to show us that. If that is alarmist then so be it but if we don't wake up to the alarm it may soon be too late.
 
IWorkThere said:
greg.hahn said:
Well first of all, Fox News is far and away the number 1 news network in the country.

Quick question: How can one be the number 1 "news" network, when they admittedly only provided nine hours of news programming?

[size=10pt]Fox argues that its news hours — 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. on weekdays — are objective.[/size]
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

How much news on CNN and MSNBC. Even Headline news has given over to commentary. If any network is going to get longterm viewers they need to do more than keep repeating the same stories over and over and over. They all interrupt for "breaking' news so they can all be considered news networks. FOX has the largest overall viewership and it's editorial shows, like Beck and O'Reilly dominate their time periods as well which therefor makes them number one.
 
IWorkThere said:
Quick question: How can one be the number 1 "news" network, when they admittedly only provided nine hours of news programming?

Quick answer: That's not relevant to our conversation. We are discussing an earlier statement by someone who implied that only "extreme right wing extremists" watch Fox News, i.e., the Fox News Channel, which has both news and opinion programming. Beck's show would be the latter, but it is the program we are discussing.
 
Ken Tucky said:
trojanrabbit said:
So when Beck had his botched-ass surgery while at CNN, he called his experience abominable. Now at Fox, he calls the US system the best in the world. Yup, he believes everything he's saying.




I guess Fox has a better insurance plan! When you make what these clowns do , it doesn't matter how much you have to contribute to it! Everything's great when you're rich!

Ah yes...play the "class warfare" card here...
 
greg.hahn said:
Quick answer: That's not relevant to our conversation. We are discussing an earlier statement by someone who implied that only "extreme right wing extremists" watch Fox News, i.e., the Fox News Channel, which has both news and opinion programming.

Hmmm...well, the actual topic is, and I quote, ""One of America's top talk superstars" coming to WHIO" So, why is my question so easily dismissed, when your threadjack is allowed?

nmoore6676 said:
How much news on CNN and MSNBC. Even Headline news has given over to commentary. If any network is going to get longterm viewers they need to do more than keep repeating the same stories over and over and over. They all interrupt for "breaking' news so they can all be considered news networks. FOX has the largest overall viewership and it's editorial shows, like Beck and O'Reilly dominate their time periods as well which therefor makes them number one.

But, does that make it right? Fox, CNN and MSNBC have morphed into mere entertainment channels. Hard news, journalism and integrity have succumbed to yellow, advertiser friendly, point-of-view reporting and commentary, plus...the latest on Dancing with the Stars. These three networks have as much credibility as Ask Uncle Jay. (No offense, Jay.)
 
As a former toiler in the cable wars, I got in when cable tv promised niche programs for every interest I can shed some light here. Remember MTV? How many videos are on there now? How about "The Nashville Network" (TNN) where is that on your cable selector now. The problem is that once they get started they have all evolved to what some would consider the lowest common denominator, think A&E, or they just disappear altogether.

You will tune to the weather channel to know what to expect outside but will you stay after they run your local forecast? In order to get audience the news channels have added other content but for the most part it is still related to the core subject, in my opinion. After all newspapers have editorials and opinion columnists so why should not the cable news channels, and newspapers also have the so called life sections and entertainment news so so long as they break for the news I have no problem with the other programming on CNN and FOX. I do have a personal issue with the blatant bias of MSNBC but then I don't have to watch them, so I'm fine with them being there for those who want their viewpoint.
 
nmoore6676 said:
As a former toiler in the cable wars, I got in when cable tv promised niche programs for every interest I can shed some light here. Remember MTV? How many videos are on there now? How about "The Nashville Network" (TNN) where is that on your cable selector now. The problem is that once they get started they have all evolved to what some would consider the lowest common denominator, think A&E, or they just disappear altogether.

You will tune to the weather channel to know what to expect outside but will you stay after they run your local forecast? In order to get audience the news channels have added other content but for the most part it is still related to the core subject, in my opinion. After all newspapers have editorials and opinion columnists so why should not the cable news channels, and newspapers also have the so called life sections and entertainment news so so long as they break for the news I have no problem with the other programming on CNN and FOX. I do have a personal issue with the blatant bias of MSNBC but then I don't have to watch them, so I'm fine with them being there for those who want their viewpoint.


Very well said.
 
IWorkThere said:
greg.hahn said:
Quick answer: That's not relevant to our conversation. We are discussing an earlier statement by someone who implied that only "extreme right wing extremists" watch Fox News, i.e., the Fox News Channel, which has both news and opinion programming.

Hmmm...well, the actual topic is, and I quote, ""One of America's top talk superstars" coming to WHIO" So, why is my question so easily dismissed, when your threadjack is allowed?

nmoore6676 said:
How much news on CNN and MSNBC. Even Headline news has given over to commentary. If any network is going to get longterm viewers they need to do more than keep repeating the same stories over and over and over. They all interrupt for "breaking' news so they can all be considered news networks. FOX has the largest overall viewership and it's editorial shows, like Beck and O'Reilly dominate their time periods as well which therefor makes them number one.

But, does that make it right? Fox, CNN and MSNBC have morphed into mere entertainment channels. Hard news, journalism and integrity have succumbed to yellow, advertiser friendly, point-of-view reporting and commentary, plus...the latest on Dancing with the Stars. These three networks have as much credibility as Ask Uncle Jay. (No offense, Jay.)

And, the newspapers all spend lots of ink telling you about "American Idol" and "Dancing With The Stars", too.

Could that just mean maybe people are interested in it?

Any news organization, radio...television...or print is supposed to be covering what's of interest to their viewers/listeners/readers. If it sells papers, brings advertisers or product "users", that's what people are talking about.

And Fox has credibility with a large percentage of the public...whether you like it or not. The numbers don't lie.

4 million viewers on election night. #2: MSNBC with less than a million and CNN? Almost off the page...
 
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