Palestinian Journalists Working For Reuters, AP & Al-Jazeera Killed In Israeli Strikes On Gaza Hospital

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Palestinian Journalists Working For Reuters, AP & Al-Jazeera Killed In Israeli Strikes On Gaza Hospital – Update

Four Palestinian Journalists working for Reuters, AP & Al-Jazeera have been killed in Israeli strikes on a Gaza hospital.

deadline.com

The group of journalists that died were covering the latest fallout from Gaza when they were killed.

Double-tap Israeli strikes on Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza on Monday killed at least 20 people, including five journalists, the Gaza Health Ministry said in a statement.

The dead media professionals were named as Hussam al-Masri, a cameraman working for Reuters News Agency; Mohammed Salama, a photojournalist with Al Jazeera; Mariam Abu Daqqa (aka Mariam Dagga), a journalist working with several media outlets including Associated Press, and Moaz Abu Taha, who was initially reported as working for NBC, but the network has denied any connection in an email to Deadline.

 

[davideduardo]

Palestinian Journalists Working For Reuters, AP & Al-Jazeera Killed In Israeli Strikes On Gaza Hospital – Update

Four Palestinian Journalists working for Reuters, AP & Al-Jazeera have been killed in Israeli strikes on a Gaza hospital.

deadline.com

The group of journalists that died were covering the latest fallout from Gaza when they were killed.

Just an observation... it is not uncommon to find Hamas members masquerading as journalists. Terrorist have been doing that in an around Israel for the last nearly eight decades.

 

[Don CT]

Just an observation... it is not uncommon to find Hamas members masquerading as journalists. Terrorist have been doing that in an around Israel for the last nearly eight decades.

The AP and Reuters are going to hire Hamas fighters?

 

[davideduardo]

The AP and Reuters are going to hire Hamas fighters?

Yes, it has happened many times in the past. They hire lots of local "stringers" to fill in for their bureau chief at different locations. with the lack of documentation and paperwork many in that region have, it is very hard to vet people.

It's the same technique Cuba and the Russian "masters" used to try to infiltrate newsrooms all across Latin America in the 60's and 70's. It included falsification of university studies and similar masks.

 

[yeoldeschool]

While finding Hamas operatives scattered among Palestine's journalists is inevitable, the problem is that these attacks keep happening to entire groupings of journalists, simultaneously killing all the other journalists working in proximity to the intended targets:

Just over one week ago, for example, a completely different attack was made directly on yet another grouping of journalists. They were working in a media tent outside the seoarate al Shifa hospital. That attack evidently received little western coverage because all of the journalists killed in it were working for Al Jazeera (news article and dedication broadcast).

In contrast, I believe the reasons the latest attack yesterday is drawing so much international condemnation are:

* It was captured clearly on video, not once but twice, first in a live broadcast, and simultaneously, in an even more vivid video from one of the journalist victims' own cameras, at the actual point of impact.

* During this Democracy Now segment yesterday, it was revealed that the exact 4th floor hospital balcony targeted in the strike was a known location journalists frequented every day to achieve the altitude needed to reach Israeli cell towers (given the complete collapse of Gaza's cellular infrastructure). That Democracy Now segment also revealed that an Israeli surveillance quadcoper was photographed hovering over the location for an hour before the attack by a Reuters journalist setting up livestreams on the hospital roof, suggesting that the IDF could see who was up there, and what they were doing, in the lead-up to the attack.

* The attack was a "double tap" strike. After the first victims were struck by the initial missile, a second missile was fired at the same spot after rescuers and even more journalists had gathered there to tend to and document the injured and dead. This was also reported in the Democracy Now segment above, but is so pertinent a fact, it deserves its own bullet point.

This incident is appalling. Many people, even in Israel itself, are beginning to question whether the attacks on all these journalists aren't retaliation for their coverage of the war and growing famine. (The Democracy Now segment above reported that the number of journalists killed in Gaza since October of 2023 has reached 244, more than in Vietnam or WWII.)

I hope this post won't be taken offensively or as political by anyone. I know this conflict is a tinderbox to both sides, and I have done my best to keep everything above about the facts of this particular attack ... on broadcasters.

 

[davideduardo]

While finding Hamas operatives scattered among Palestine's journalists is inevitable, the problem is that these attacks keep happening to entire groupings of journalists, simultaneously killing all the other journalists working in proximity to the intended targets:

There is also a perspective that perhaps the journalists should stay in safer zones. We had recent incidents in Los Angeles, resulting in claims and counterclaims, but caused by journalists pushing inside of restricted zones or disobeying police instructions. In such cases, it is fully the risk and responsibility of the journalist if they make such decisions.

Just over one week ago, for example, a completely different attack was made directly on yet another grouping of journalists. They were working in a media tent outside the seoarate al Shifa hospital. That attack evidently received little western coverage because all of the journalists killed in it were working for Al Jazeera (news article and dedication broadcast).

And, apparently, those were free-lance Palestinian agents. Again, see my reference to the infiltration of newsrooms all over Latin America by those trained by Cuba in the 60's and 70's.

In contrast, I believe the reasons the latest attack yesterday is drawing so much international condemnation are:

* It was captured clearly on video, not once but twice, first in a live broadcast, and simultaneously, in an even more vivid video from one of the journalist victims' own cameras, at the actual point of impact.

Again, there is sufficient historical evidence of Hamas militants posing as journalists. This is one of their techniques to cause controversy, just like putting weapons storage beneath hospitals and schools.

* During this Democracy Now segment yesterday, it was revealed that the exact 4th floor hospital balcony targeted in the strike was a known location journalists frequented every day to achieve the altitude needed to reach Israeli cell towers (given the complete collapse of Gaza's cellular infrastructure). That Democracy Now segment also revealed that an Israeli surveillance quadcoper was photographed hovering over the location for an hour before the attack by a Reuters journalist setting up livestreams on the hospital roof, suggesting that the IDF could see who was up there, and what they were doing, in the lead-up to the attack.

And Israel has existed as a nation for nearly 80 years. Militants have been posing as something they are not to infiltrate that nation or its neighbors for nearly 80 years also.

* The attack was a "double tap" strike. After the first victims were struck by the initial missile, a second missile was fired at the same spot after rescuers and even more journalists had gathered there to tend to and document the injured and dead. This was also reported in the Democracy Now segment above, but is so pertinent a fact, it deserves its own bullet point.

The "double tap" is a technique used by many military forces over decades. The Israelis did not invent it. What they do know is that a significant portion of "reporters", particularly the freelance ones, are Hamas controlled.

This incident is appalling.

What is appalling is that Israel has to defend itself from terrorists, still, after nearly 80 years. If you do not know what "from the river to the sea" means, I suggest further reading.

Many people, even in Israel itself, are beginning to question whether the attacks on all these journalists aren't retaliation for their coverage of the war and growing famine. (The Democracy Now segment above reported that the number of journalists killed in Gaza since October of 2023 has reached 244, more than in Vietnam or WWII.)

Yet, reports from less partialized journalists show that the only cause for famine is the stealing or restricting of relief supplies by Hamas.

This conflict has repeatedly revealed anti-Israel agents disguised as journalists. This is a technique used by Cuba, China and, in the past, Russia, for intelligence gathering... Christine Fang being an example in another area.

I hope this post won't be taken offensively or as political by anyone. I know this conflict is a tinderbox to both sides, and I have done my best to keep everything above about the facts of this particular attack ... on broadcasters.

I've been in Israel and have seen some of the issues it faces. For full disclosure, I assisted one of the Israeli intelligence organizations back in the 60's in their attempts to locate Martin Bormann who was, apparently, living on the border of Brasil, Ecuador and Perú. I had stumbled on a Nazi refugee in Ecuador and was asked to befriend him. Long story, but they did not find him in Ecuador.

My first girlfriend there had numbers on her arm. Never again.

 

[Don CT]

Should journalists have stayed out of Vietmam?

 

[davideduardo]

The AP and Reuters are going to hire Hamas fighters?

Yes, and they have... as stringers. They simply were unable to vet all correspondents thoroughly as there is no "Hamas Membership List" available. And Hamas has used journalists, aid workers and the like to infiltrate the operations of what they consider to be their enemies.

Have you ever been in a war zone or in the middle of a revolution or something similar? None of this is unusual.

 

[davideduardo]

Should journalists have stayed out of Vietmam?

They should have stayed out of the middle of firefights and restricted areas.

Remember, journalists on the scene knew about the Normandy invasion in advance. They swore silence. They knew that revealing "secret information" was the same thing as treason. They also knew that they wanted the Allies to be successful.