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Paul Revere Dies of Cancer at 76
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What's dangerous about it?
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Re-read what I wrote. Words have different connotations in context. "To the rest of the entertainment world, 'costumes' are any special clothing worn on stage or other performance venue. " I have worked as a professional actor on stage as well as on film and video. In the context of professional performers on a stage whether it's a live concert stage or a soundstage for film or video, everything we were is considered "costumes", even if it is our normal street clothes.
Yes, sometimes costumes are more outlandish that other times. My "costume" in a sitcom I acted in was a black suit with a clerical collar, because I was playing a minister. In a recent commercial, I wore the same suit, but with a bright red vest and matching necktie. In a pilot for a western, I wore a buckskin jacket and cowboy boots. In the play, "The Lion In Winter", I wore a shirt of chain mail, tights, and a cloak. Those were all "costumes".
Maybe you should acquaint yourself with show business before jumping to hasty conclusions about the entertainment industry.
Seems self-explanatory to me. Not worth getting in an argument about.
We were not talking about actors in a play and the various pieces of equipment making the play possible. We were specifically talking about a Rock act and I think the vast majority of man-on-the-street will tell you that a suit and tie is not considered a "costume" IN THAT CONTEXT.
Not in any city in which I lived or visited.
Would KMET or KLOS play Paul Revere? They were mainly a teeny-bop band. Mark Lindsay was on the cover of all the teen mags.
Not possible. Revere had fifteen Top 20 hits; Hawkins had none
Although Hawkins never charted on the Pop charts, "I Put A Spell On You" was played on Top 40 radio.
I understand all that. Rock stations in the 70s were not chart based. They were the antithesis of chart based. In the early days of rock radio, blues and R&B acts like Hawkins and Elmore James got airplay. Hawkins played the Fillmore East. This is when Johnny Winter was a God. I have trouble thinking of Paul Revere & the Raiders as a rock act in that sense. Although the guitar riffs were rock oriented, having an anti-drug song like Kicks made them poison on rock radio.
Not sure what you replied to. I was replying to your statement "Hawkins got more rock airplay than Revere." which I disagreed with.
Your statement was that Hawkins got more airplay than PR&R and I still question that. Concert appearances do not count as airplay. I lived in the Bay Area during the time that The Raiders were popular (and before that in Portland, OR where they were THE band). I heard them constantly on T-40 radio. Never heard Hawkins once - never even heard his name. He might have been big where R&B was big but it wasn't out West.
I said he got more ROCK airplay. More likely to be heard on KSAN or KMPX than KYA. Regardless, he wore a costume. Classify him however you want.
You say "rock" but we called it "underground". To the teens of that day "rock" was more or less synonymous with T-40 and Pop. You guys in the biz might have had finer definitions but we didn't and in that context Hawkins was not Rock, T-40 or Pop.
I think you're right. To me it's the same thing. But that's why I find it hard to refer to Revere as the "mad man of rock."
Airplane and Dead were rock. Revere was a pop star in a 3 cornered hat. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I think that we are having two separate discussions here. My point was that when Hawkins' "I Put A Spell On You" was released in 1956, it received airplay on Top 40 radio. Even though the song didn't chart, 1950s & 1960s Top 40 radio played new releases and "pick hits" in addition to the chart songs of the day. When Revere's songs were charting in the mid-'60s, of course they were played on Top 40 radio. The second discussion, I believe, relates to longevity..................artists that were (and still are) played on the radio after their initial success. Revere wins that one hands down.
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I think we both understood what you were getting at. In 1956 I would have been 12 and my home town didn't yet have a T-40 station (it came along at the tail end of the year or in 1957, I can't remember the exact date). I remember hearing Jerry Lee Lewis, Bill Haley & the Comets and Elvis in those very early days but if I heard Hawkins it was much later and probably somewhere else as Tucson didn't play R&B in those years.
I'm sure it did. But we were talking about PRR as a rock act that wore a costume. Hawkins did it before PRR. Just not the same costume. Although that would have been interesting
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Think whatever you want. You're still wrong.
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That's the trouble with knowing radio inside and out, but being clueless about actual music. In the recording studio, Paul Revere and the Raiders were hard rock pioneers. But, at the time they were trying to make a living, they did some "sell out" schtick, like wearing the revolutionary war getups to make the point that they were an American band counteracting the British Invasion. Remember, at the time they were first getting noticed, even acts like the Yardbirds were wearing matching stage outfits.
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