“Ale Ale” in April and Bachata song “Punta Cana” in January, two hits put out this year.
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Otilio "Bizcocho" Warrington, once part of the EstereoTempo morning show?
There is a difference between "new" and "hit".
There is no accurate data about the sales of Gema Records, their original label, either on the Island or in Latin America. They did not engage in RIAA certification processes. International sales were done by local labels in each country such as Venezuela, Colombia and República Dominicana and that data has never been compiled or released.
When Gema ran into trouble, Ithier formed a label called, logically, EGC. There is no sales data available for that, either. And "Combo Records" starting in 1978 did not report, either.
So the combined US, PR and International sales of El Gran Combo are really unknown. But over the last nearly 60 years, it should be obvious that they were the absolute leader in sales or all salsa orchestras or artists.
I know that Mark Anthony's songs are the only salsa songs that I hear on non-salsa stations, even in the USA outside of the East Coast.
That is because a lot of them are what we called "salsa monga" in Puerto Rico. Very pop sounding salsa without the classic descarga. Pop songs with a brass section.
I can tell you don’t listen to new Salsa. How about this year.
Ale, Ale reached # 1 on the Mediabase Tropical chart last week and on Billboard too.
In 2022 he had a hit with Pa’lla Voy. Which is more of your Salsa Gorda.
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I seriously doubt that David.Even though there’s no sales data, you can compare them to what other top Salsa artists were doing during those years, Celia Cruz probably is a good comparison.
It sells better. La Salsa Romántica has lyrics that can get on any AC station in Latin America. It’s the same thing they have done with Reggaetón.
I read that El Gran Combo has sold 60 million on one website. Another website claims 120 million. Then there’s Willie Colón, he is claiming he sold 30 million.
Remember, Celia was generally the vocalist of other bands, starting with Tito Puente and then with several of Jerry's Fania groups like Johnny and Willie.
But throughout Latin America, the Combo did much better than most. And by the mid-90's salsa had become a much more niche format and heard much less, even in Puerto Rico.
In fact, the shift of Salsoul to mostly talk was based on making a station for cocolos that did not depend entirely on the music any more because the music was dying among younger generations That was the era when the dance clubs... like the infamous ones along the Carretera Vieja de Caguas... were featuring merengue bands because fewer and fewer young club goers even could dance salsa
What gets on the AC stations is rhythmic, not full blown salsa. And if you get beyond the Caribbean coastal markets, you don't hear it at all on those stations. You will hear Pittbull and Shakira oldies, but not salsa. And you would not hear any salsa song on any AC in Mexico... salsa is very niche there, even in Veracruz and Tabasco.
Alé Alé was not what I would call a "hit". And bachata is as far away from salsa as Boqueron is from Boca Chica.
Have you looked at the reporters for the Tropical (I hate that name) chart? That is a limited and very exclusive format and genre today. It's like being #1 on the imaginary Polka chart.
Not really. It got very limited airplay, and none on crossover Top 40 stations that did play salsa sometimes. It's easy to win a race when all the other horses are dead.
Punta Cana is a Bachata song.
That's what I noted in my post.
Spoke to PJ over the weekend and he is still very much still working at Iheart j/s
Tucson is a difficult market for Hispanic radio, because its population is already second generation, although the rotation of migrants, especially from various cities in the neighboring Mexican state of Sonora, greatly influences the style of consumption. Yes, those who prefer to listen to the apson, laberinto or yndio groups rather than any type of salsa or tropical music.