the eastern tip of Long Island is geographically closer to Hartford, but is in the NYC market and out of OTA range for the NYC stations
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Places in markets that are geographically closer to another market
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For Philly: The southern part of Ocean County, NJ is significantly closer to Philly than New York, while the northern part is about equidistant only slightly closer to NYC, but the entire county is part of NYC DMA. Fios doesn't offer the big four networks from Philly there which show news for that area but instead offering Long Island and other faraway NY market independents. Fios only offers WPVI from Philly.
However to Philly's gain is Central DE (Kent County) is closer to Salisbury (Dover to Salisbury distance), but Philly has claim of it.
Pike County, PA is part of the NYC market rather than the Wilkes Barre/Scranton PA market. It gets both stations on cable so no loss really, but satellite viewers may only get NYC channels not being able to know anything related to PA really.
However to Philly's gain is Central DE (Kent County) is closer to Salisbury (Dover to Salisbury distance), but Philly has claim of it.
Pike County, PA is part of the NYC market rather than the Wilkes Barre/Scranton PA market. It gets both stations on cable so no loss really, but satellite viewers may only get NYC channels not being able to know anything related to PA really.
And we get all their weather bulletins. Just last night there was a crawl almost constantly during "Once Upon a Time" about the storm known as "Frankenstorm". Interestingly, that show has Dr. Frankenstein now.wncc said:
Still on topic, for some odd reason Charlotte's ABC affiliate aired a rerun (probably, since I haven't watched yet, but I taped it) of Erik Estrada and Laura McKenzie's cheap knockoff of Tom Bergeron's show, so I had to use an antenna to watch Bergeron on Greensboro's ABC affiliate. That station's tower, and most of those of the Greensboro stations, are actually closer to me than a lot of the Charlotte stations'. To guarantee a good signal and make recording easier, I have cable (just the broadcast stations, WGN, TV Guide Channel, a local news channel and assorted shopping and local-content channels) but only the CBS affiliate is there. With all the wind, I had a couple of serious problems and lots of minor glitches. But the fact is during the first summer of digital TV I didn't watch Charlotte's ABC affiliate ONCE. It was great. Problems started happening in the Fall, but they've since cleared up. Out of habit, I just watch ABC on cable most of the time.
I have discovered some stations letterbox "Jeopardy". The Charlotte station doesn't, but the Greensboro station, if I happen to see the show there, does. That means the image is wider with black bars on the top and bottom.
And, at least in the analog days, WSPA Spartanburg, SC's transmitter
was closer as the crow flies to Watauga County, even though the CBS
affiliates on cable there are WBTV and WJHL in the Tri-Cities.
My end of Chatham County, NC, is closer to Greensboro than to Raleigh;
we get CBS on both WFMY and WRAL (and most of the county is closer
to Raleigh/Durham) and Fox on WGHP and WRAZ. In analog days we got
a snowy picture at best on WXII and hardly any at all on WXLV, so we
had to depend on WTVD for ABC and WNCN for NBC. Perhaps, even likely,
that's why we're in the Raleigh/Durham DMA.
Another place is Cleburne County, AL, hard by the Georgia line on I-20 and about
halfway between Atlanta and Birmingham. Officially, I think it's still in the
Atlanta DMA, yet the cable company there does not carry either WSB or WAGA
(it does carry WXIA and WGCL, and I think WATL and possibly WUPA, I'm not sure).
The next county west, Calhoun (about 15 miles), is the start of the Birmingham DMA,
but in Cleburne the cable company carries all the Birmingham/Anniston stations but not
all of the Atlanta ones.
was closer as the crow flies to Watauga County, even though the CBS
affiliates on cable there are WBTV and WJHL in the Tri-Cities.
My end of Chatham County, NC, is closer to Greensboro than to Raleigh;
we get CBS on both WFMY and WRAL (and most of the county is closer
to Raleigh/Durham) and Fox on WGHP and WRAZ. In analog days we got
a snowy picture at best on WXII and hardly any at all on WXLV, so we
had to depend on WTVD for ABC and WNCN for NBC. Perhaps, even likely,
that's why we're in the Raleigh/Durham DMA.
Another place is Cleburne County, AL, hard by the Georgia line on I-20 and about
halfway between Atlanta and Birmingham. Officially, I think it's still in the
Atlanta DMA, yet the cable company there does not carry either WSB or WAGA
(it does carry WXIA and WGCL, and I think WATL and possibly WUPA, I'm not sure).
The next county west, Calhoun (about 15 miles), is the start of the Birmingham DMA,
but in Cleburne the cable company carries all the Birmingham/Anniston stations but not
all of the Atlanta ones.
How about Brattleboro, VT? The southeast Vermont town on the Connecticut River is closer to Springfield, MA and White River Junction, VT than Boston. However, likely based on viewing habits, they're considered to be in the Boston/Worcester DMA. Two hotels I've stayed at in the town had WBZ, WCVB, WHDH, WFXT and WSBK on their "cable." Going northward to Windsor County, VT places you in the Burlington/Plattsburgh DMA. Going westward to Bennington County, VT places you in the Albany/Schenectady DMA. Going southward to Franklin County, MA places you in the Springfield, MA DMA.
As for Brattleboro itself...maybe they're in the Boston/Worcester DMA because of Keene, NH? That's in Cheshire County, NH. A LOT of the radio advertising in that town references them. Also, WKNE-FM 103.7 (103.7 KNE-FM) comes in for much of the area with a decent antenna in Brattleboro.
As for Brattleboro itself...maybe they're in the Boston/Worcester DMA because of Keene, NH? That's in Cheshire County, NH. A LOT of the radio advertising in that town references them. Also, WKNE-FM 103.7 (103.7 KNE-FM) comes in for much of the area with a decent antenna in Brattleboro.
KeithE4 said:
I have a second home in Lake Havasu City, AZ (in Mohave County) but we only get the Phoenix stations on cable, even though we're closer to Vegas. I've been told the reason is the time zone difference during standard time, which also affects Yuma stations broadcasting to residents of Imperial County, CA.
Realistically, LHC is a town of about 60,000 regular residents that swells from visitors to Lake Havasu and the Colorado River during the summer months and again for retired snowbirds during the winter months- but seemingly doesn't really have ties to either Vegas or Phoenix particularly, and is rather inaccessible. The same goes for some of the other cities in the area like Kingman. The only exception is Bullhead City/Laughlin, which are geographically and historically aligned with Vegas much more so than Phoenix. So goes it, though, when the giant Arizona counties stretch for hundreds of miles.
Also, for good measure, throw in the extreme southern areas of Orange County and Riverside County, CA which is geographically closer to San Diego but falls within the Los Angeles market.
Cities like San Clemente, San Juan Capistrano and Dana Point in OC are the main areas- as they're right around 60 miles from San Diego's downtown and about 80 miles from downtown LA.
Similarly, the southwestern portions of Riverside County like Temecula, Murrieta, Wildomar, etc- which are about 60 miles from San Diego and about 90 miles from downtown LA, yet are still within the LA market.
Cities like San Clemente, San Juan Capistrano and Dana Point in OC are the main areas- as they're right around 60 miles from San Diego's downtown and about 80 miles from downtown LA.
Similarly, the southwestern portions of Riverside County like Temecula, Murrieta, Wildomar, etc- which are about 60 miles from San Diego and about 90 miles from downtown LA, yet are still within the LA market.
In Rockford, Illinois' case, there's Rock County, Wisconsin (to the north) and DeKalb County, Illinois (to the southeast). At one point, both counties were part of the Rockford DMA, but they're in separate markets. Rock's in the Madison DMA and DeKalb is in Chicago's. However, at least, the Rockford stations are still on cable in both counties.
LaPorte County Indiana is in the Chicago DMA, but they're actually closer to South Bend Indiana. The South Bend full power stations are available on cable due to significantly viewed status. There are no problems getting them OTA. Resident in Michigan City & LaPorte (the 2 largest populated cities in LaPorte County Indiana) even consider themselve more in the South Bend market than Chicago. They even wanted to be on Eastern Time at one time, but Indianapolis won't let them, because they're part of the Chicago DMA. South Bend stations WNDU-TV, WSJV & WSBT-TV are more likely to report news on Michigan City or LaPorte than Chicago stations would, or the PBS station licensed to Gary Indiana, WYIN (one of a few PBS stations that has a low budget news program aimed at NW Indiana).
Chicot County AR is rabbit-ear range of the Greenville-Greenwood MS stations but its in the Little Rock AR DMA because of historic carriage of KATV on cable systems.
The problem with a place like Ukiah, or maybe Elko, Nevada, or La Grande, Oregon or similar places-- they're not close to anything. Most places in far northern California are hundreds of miles from all civilization it seems.
I will throw out St. George, Utah, though, which is 170 miles closer to Las Vegas than Salt Lake City, but in SLC's market.
Most places in western Kansas are closer to Denver than Wichita, but still part of Wichita's market via full-powered repeaters. Again, they're far from everything.
I will throw out St. George, Utah, though, which is 170 miles closer to Las Vegas than Salt Lake City, but in SLC's market.
Most places in western Kansas are closer to Denver than Wichita, but still part of Wichita's market via full-powered repeaters. Again, they're far from everything.
TheRob said:
you wouldn't expect any Denver stations to cover Kansas news or sports
Plus, the Denver DMA is already quite large and would probably not welcome the additional counties. KUSA (for example) has a network of low-powered repeaters and translators numbering about two dozen.nomadcowatbk said:
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