Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

[BJordan]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Might need to cool those jets, boys. Playing 2 R&B songs doesn't mean they are tweaking the format. Motivation has been in rotation for a while -- I have tape of them playing it as part of the "New at Two" several months ago. It's never going to get major airplay either. Power is not an Urban station anymore, and hasn't been in years. Look at the airstaff at the station, and that should tell you how interested Emmis is in catering to the Urban audience.

While you guys correctly point out two R&B songs that are in rotation, you erroneously gloss over the fact that LMFAO had the highest spins of the week. Pitbull was #3, Felli Fel's Boomerang was #7, Black Eyed Peas was #18, Dev was #21. Outside of that, David Guetta had many more spins than Frank Ocean, one of the two R&B songs that supposedly signals the coming of the "new
Power 106". Also, they are spinning Mr. Saxobeat and Afrojack. They "did dance"? I can't name a time I've heard so many songs above a certain BPM since they were LA's Dance Station back in the early 90s.

May I point out that the LMFAO and Pitbull uptempo songs are 1 and 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, respectfully? Sorry, the electro/dance sound has not gone away nor would it be reasonable to predict its demise in the forseeable future.

But they're not spinning Gaga or Katy Perry. I don't expect them to go back to urban just don't play Gaga.

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Might need to cool those jets, boys. Playing 2 R&B songs doesn't mean they are tweaking the format. Motivation has been in rotation for a while -- I have tape of them playing it as part of the "New at Two" several months ago. It's never going to get major airplay either.

This is what I was trying to point out in my somewhat facetious 'KZZP Novacane & Motivation' comment earlier (KZZP is a top 40 / rhythmic lean top 40).

What's happening now doesn't show that electro dance is in its final days. However, it is evident that hip hop and r&b are improving, and while dance is still holding strong as the overall trend topper at the moment, it is possible that if more quality hip hop and r&b (along with alternative) continues to "rise up", we might have a modernized version of the 90's sound - when we had all types of sounds in chr and many formats doing well independently with their own sound. Remember back when you had hip hop, alternative/rock, r&b, pop, and dance all doing well together (as oppose to one sound mostly dominating a trend) and you also heard it all on your local chr's? With the way things are going now, it could happen again.

As far as motivation not getting major airplay, I'm not exactly sure about that because for some reason, I feel that Kelly Rowland has finally mastered her first successful U.S. hit, and it seems like it has potential to keep growing, possibly at least to the point that Ciara's "oh" did. I was a little skeptical about it at first because not only was it Kelly Rowland, but the song was so slow, and it is a very quality tune, so I automatically assumed it would never catch on. Looks like, though, this song may do some surprising things, or be the song that helps ensure that Kelly's follow up single does even better across the board, due to familiarity.

This is just a hypothesis, but I have a feeling that Kelly Rowland may finally find bigger U.S. success with this album...

Your right her first 2 albums have not been chart toppers. Stole was the first single mainly to CHR then the uptempo Cant Nobody was a good song not sure why people didnt like it. The new album contains the dance single Commander which was suppose to be relased last year but lack of promotion and creative difference with her record label and radio airplay left the song in the dark. KIIS here in Los Angeles played it a few times mostly in a mixshow I heard it New Years Eve last year. When Love Takes Over with David Guetta was probally her biggest solo hit internationally in other markets. AMP here in Los Angeles played it last year just not in rotation. As far as Motivation goes not hooked on it yet but its nice shes getting airplay. Im actually waiting becuase Beyonce new album I aint feeling the singles.

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

But they're not spinning Gaga or Katy Perry. I don't expect them to go back to urban just don't play Gaga.

They actually spun GaGa more than Perry because GaGa was making hits that appeal to latinos which is Powers core listeners. Her new album has no Rhythmic elements compared to the first 2 I agree which is why I dont like it. Her first one was good no doubt because it was something different we haven't heard. Now shes overrated. Since I hardly listen to KPWR I guess its safe to say we dont need every station playing Rolling In The Deep also.

 

[BJordan]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Might need to cool those jets, boys. Playing 2 R&B songs doesn't mean they are tweaking the format. Motivation has been in rotation for a while -- I have tape of them playing it as part of the "New at Two" several months ago. It's never going to get major airplay either.

This is what I was trying to point out in my somewhat facetious 'KZZP Novacane & Motivation' comment earlier (KZZP is a top 40 / rhythmic lean top 40).

What's happening now doesn't show that electro dance is in its final days. However, it is evident



that hip hop and r&b are improving, and while dance is still holding strong as the overall trend topper at the moment, it is possible that if more quality hip hop and r&b (along with alternative) continues to "rise up", we might have a modernized version of the 90's sound - when we had all types of sounds in chr and many formats doing well independently with their own sound. Remember back when you had hip hop, alternative/rock, r&b, pop, and dance all doing well together (as oppose to one sound mostly dominating a trend) and you also heard it all on your local chr's? With the way things are going now, it could happen again.



As far as motivation not getting major airplay, I'm not exactly sure about that because for some reason, I feel that Kelly Rowland has finally mastered her first successful U.S. hit, and it seems like it has potential to keep growing, possibly at least to the point that Ciara's "oh" did. I was a little skeptical about it at first because not only was it Kelly Rowland, but the song was so slow, and it is
a very quality tune, so I automatically assumed it would never catch on. Looks like, though, this song may do some surprising things, or be the song that helps ensure that Kelly's follow up single does even better across the board, due to familiarity.

This is just a hypothesis, but I have a feeling that Kelly Rowland may finally find bigger U.S. success with this album...

Your right her first 2 albums have not been chart toppers. Stole was the first single mainly to CHR then the uptempo Cant Nobody was a good song not sure why people didnt like it. The new album contains the dance single Commander which was suppose to be relased last year but lack of promotion and creative difference with her record label and radio airplay left the song in the dark.
KIIS here in Los Angeles played it a few times mostly in a mixshow I heard it New Years Eve last year. When Love Takes Over with David Guetta was probally her biggest solo hit internationally in other markets. AMP here in Los Angeles played it last year just not in rotation.
As far as Motivation goes not hooked on it yet but its nice shes getting airplay. Im actually waiting becuase Beyonce new album I aint feeling the singles.

They favor Beyoncé over Kelly, Michelle, Letoya, Latavia and Farrah Franklin every girl who was in Destiny's Child. Beyoncé's Best Thing I Never Had actually sounds better than Run The
World(Girls). The only time Kelly Rowland was promoted successfully as a solo artist was on Nelly's Dellimma in 2002 and that's the last time Power 106 ever played a record with Kelly
Rowland singing on the track. Dellimma also did well on the Urban AC charts (according to an all bussiness article from October 2002) because it did tested well with the younger listeners who listen to Urban AC with the help of Hot 92.3 and KJLH in Los Angeles.

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Actally Power played Like This with Eve for a short time just during a mix show but she hasnt really had a successful solo career. That's Nelly's song not hers. As far as Beyonce goes the video for Run The World(Girls) is hot just the song and beat sucks.

 

[BJordan]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Actally Power played Like This with Eve for a short time just during a mix show but she hasnt really had a successful solo career. That's Nelly's song not hers. As far as Beyonce goes the video for Run The World(Girls) is hot just the song and beat sucks.

I don't remember KPWR playing Like This with Eve in 2007 ???. 102.3 KJLH & KRBV V-100 played it with Eve's rap. KDAY did when they were doing currents. That was a hot though. I can't stand Run The World because of the unstable african backing track too much going on in that song. Sad to see that (not all) the R&B is at a spiraling downfall.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

I find it peculiar that WHTA would have "best thing I never had" in regular rotation. It sounds straight up top 40 or rhythmic material... kind of like TLC's "unpretty"! Even Pitbull ft T-Pain's "hey baby" sounds 'more street' than "best thing I never had".

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

I find it peculiar that WHTA would have "best thing I never had" in regular rotation. It sounds straight up top 40 or rhythmic material... kind of like TLC's "unpretty"! Even Pitbull ft T-Pain's "hey baby" sounds 'more street' than "best thing I never had".

They gotta keep the females listening too. HOT has shifted back to a blend of Hip-Hop and R&B which has been a good look ratings wise.

 

[Martin Mac]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Did someone say Kelly Rowland's song Motivation was not a hit? Maybe not in Los Angeles, but it reached number one on the Urban Mediabase Chart and stayed there for several weeks. It also reached #3 on the Mediabase Rhythmic chart and is still climbing, right under Give Me Everything and Super Bass respectively. L.A. is the only place that is not really showing Motivation alot of love. This song has also crossed over to the Mediabase Top 50/Pop Chart, something that does not happen alot for Urban R&B songs these days. I guess Motivation is not testing well in Los Angeles, but if it was the most played song on Urban stations in the country, and is currently the 3rd most played song on all Rhythmic stations and is still rising, this is clearly a hit.

 

[kilamanjero]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Considering the mix and the ineptitude of KPWR, KJLH, and KDAY, I would say LA is a lost market on the rhythmic or urban music tip.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

I think "motivation" is still in its growing stations because KZON (and I guess a few other stations) are still using it in their "new music" shows / specialty programs. KZON has had it in their "New @ 2 Drive Thru Mix" for a few months now, even before some urbans started actually playing it. Remember how long it took Pitbull's "Hey baby" to officially become a real hit? Maybe this is what's going on with "motivation" - it's slowly becoming a big hit. It is beginning to blow up in Tucson, Az. on KOHT. I don't know what's going on with Power 98.3 "where hip hop lives" in Phoenix, but KZZP "all the hits" surely has it in rotation.

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Considering the mix and the ineptitude of KPWR, KJLH, and KDAY, I would say LA is a lost market on the rhythmic or urban music tip.

I couldnt agree more. Things were more balanced and focus in 2006 when I moved backed

We had
Urban AC KJLH, KRBV (never a ratings winner but a more focused Urban AC just not for Los Angeles)
CHR KIIS
Rhythmic AC's KBIG, KMVN, KHHT
Mainstream Urban KDAY
Hispanic Rhythmic KXOL
Rhythmic CHR KPWR, KWIE (Riverside 96.1)

Music for everybody's taste. I remeber everytime we would have family out of town visiting they would love to listen to our stations. Sad enough smaller markets stations sound better. It seems those stations were more focus driven during 2006 but it became appearent with the growing amount of Hispanics in this market and the decrease of African Americans radio companies figured it was time to make some changes. Out of 10 of those stations I mention they all went through phases and 8 of them are still on the air. Of course 5 of them have really found success after a few tweaks. KPWR, KIIS, KBIG, KHHT and KDAY (its cume is higher than before its previous fromat). But neitherless when it comes to music choice its really bad.

 

[BJordan]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

Considering the mix and the ineptitude of KPWR, KJLH, and KDAY, I would say LA is a lost market on the rhythmic or urban music tip.

I couldnt agree more. Things were more balanced and focus in 2006 when I moved backed

We had
Urban AC KJLH, KRBV (never a ratings winner but a more focused Urban AC just not for Los Angeles)
CHR KIIS



Rhythmic AC's KBIG, KMVN, KHHT
Mainstream Urban KDAY
Hispanic Rhythmic KXOL
Rhythmic CHR KPWR, KWIE (Riverside 96.1)

Music for everybody's taste. I remeber everytime we would have family out of town visiting they would love to listen to our stations. Sad enough smaller markets stations sound better. It seems those stations were more focus driven during 2006 but it became appearent with the growing amount of Hispanics in this market and the decrease of African Americans radio companies figured it was time to make some changes. Out of 10 of those stations I mention they all went



through phases and 8 of them are still on the air. Of course 5 of them have really found success after a few tweaks. KPWR, KIIS, KBIG, KHHT and KDAY (its cume is higher than before its previous fromat).
But neitherless when it comes to music choice its really bad.

In 1995-96, ten years prior to 2006 we had better variety out here in Los Angeles.

Urban AC 102.3 KJLH The Artist You Know, The Songs You Love


Mainstream Urban 92.3 The Beat No Color Lines



Rhythmic Power 106 L.A.'s Party Station drifting towards R&B/Hip Hop at the time




In 2001-02 while you were in KC we had the same variety

Urban AC 102.3 KJLH Today's R&B & Classic Soul, KHHT Hot 92 Jamz Forever Old School & Today's R&B

Mainstream Urban KKBT 100.3 The Beat Home of Harvey, Hip Hop & R&B

Rhythmic KPWR Power 106 Blazin' Hip Hop & R&B


In 2011 we have:

Rhythmic Oldies KHHT Hot 92.3 Old School

Classic Hip Hop 93.5 KDAY


Urban Contemporary or Urban AC Radio Free 102.3 KJLH

Rhythmic KPWR Power 106 "Where Hip Hop Lives".


Compared to the aforementioned years above radio sucks. But What the h### that's the industry for us. Pardon my french.

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

People may not like KAMP and KXOL but they target the same audience as Rhythmic's just in different form. KAMP has been the most successful. Despite it listed as CHR it is clearly a Rhythmic station. Could be worst but better than nothing. BTW Vibe 109 sounds pretty good for a internet station. I find myself listening more lately. Also is it me or is anybody having issues with iheartradio on their phones?

 

[BJordan]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

People may not like KAMP and KXOL but they target the same audience as Rhythmic's just in different form. KAMP has been the most successful. Despite it listed as CHR it is clearly a Rhythmic station. Could be worst but better than nothing. BTW Vibe 109 sounds pretty good for a internet station. I find myself listening more lately. Also is it me or is anybody having issues with iheartradio on their phones?

I need to hurry up and Vibe 109. I heard that Vibe 109 plays a lot stuff that we don't hear in L.A. anymore. BTW they have an iPhone app for Vibe 109. I plan to check it out.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

I remember back when Jammin' Z90 played booty bass. I also remember B100.3 (the imaging song is still stuck in my head to this day) and I remember Groove Radio 103.1. I also remember when 99.1 KGGI used to play THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7em5GzqwyA

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

I remember back when Jammin' Z90 played booty bass. I also remember B100.3 (the imaging song is still stuck in my head to this day) and I remember Groove Radio 103.1. I also remember when 99.1 KGGI used to play THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7em5GzqwyA

KGGI plays some of that stuff on Friday and Saturday nights. Mainly I hear it Saturday nights in the mix

 

[wdb2003]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

People may not like KAMP and KXOL but they target the same audience as Rhythmic's just in different form. KAMP has been the most successful. Despite it listed as CHR it is clearly a Rhythmic station. Could be worst but better than nothing. BTW Vibe 109 sounds pretty good for a internet station. I find myself listening more lately. Also is it me or is anybody having issues with iheartradio on their phones?

I need to hurry up and Vibe 109. I heard that Vibe 109 plays a lot stuff that we don't hear in L.A. anymore. BTW they have an iPhone app for Vibe 109. I plan to check it out.

Its on Tune Inn just type in VIBE 109 on your search option and your good. I listen in the mornings mostly. I notice all day sunday they were playing jazz. I love the imaging of the station. Whoever runs that station is doing a good job. Hell if they can lease time on a AM station or on a low power station in town ill listen.

 

[Wildstyle K]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

KGGI plays some of that stuff on Friday and Saturday nights. Mainly I hear it Saturday nights in the mix

It's not the same anymore. Everybody's gone all house now. Electro-Freestyle, Bass, Breaks, and Latin dance all seems to have vanished with the good ol' days. "Super Bass" doesn't really count...

Not complaining about house music, but I miss the days when many dance and uptempo songs had different beat styles rather than it just being all house and 4x4 type beats.

 

[BJordan]

Re: Power 106 in L.A. is now cutting back on Rhythmic Pop to focus on Hip Hop & R&B

People may not like KAMP and KXOL but they target the same audience as Rhythmic's just in different form. KAMP has been the most successful. Despite it listed as CHR it is clearly a Rhythmic station. Could be worst but better than nothing. BTW Vibe 109 sounds pretty good for a internet station. I find myself listening more lately. Also is it me or is anybody having issues with iheartradio on their phones?

I need to hurry up and Vibe 109. I heard that Vibe 109 plays a lot stuff that we don't hear in L.A. anymore. BTW they have an iPhone app for Vibe 109. I plan to check it out.

Found Vibe 109 and it sound great more variety than the whack stations out here (except for KDAY).

Its on Tune Inn just type in VIBE 109 on your search option and your good. I listen in the mornings mostly. I notice all day sunday they were playing jazz. I love the imaging of the station. Whoever runs that station is doing a good job. Hell if they can lease time on a AM station or on a low power station in town ill listen.