There is both audio and a transcript of the audio here. I was considering putting this under another thread but I think the topic more broadly deserves its own. From my perspective, the demand for absolute fealty by both the U.S. President and his Secretary of Defense (War) is absolutely dangerous for the democratic republic known as the United States of America. I will say no more as it might be considered too political. (I expect that others will, making this thread agood target for a quick shutdown.)
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President Trump has destroyed the norms of White House reporting: NPR
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There is both audio and a transcript of the audio here. I was considering putting this under another thread but I think the topic more broadly deserves its own. From my perspective, the demand for absolute fealty by both the U.S. President and his Secretary of Defense (War) is absolutely dangerous for the democratic republic known as the United States of America. I will say no more as it might be considered too political. (I expect that others will, making this thread agood target for a quick shutdown.)
Yes we had entire threads like this on the TV side because Chairman Carr inserted himself in some of them “license threats” or the White House and Pentagon issued a lawsuit as “defamation” or the media outlets sued the White House directly under first amendment violations the pentagon or White House was engaged in.
Yes we know. He's destroyed norms. That's what he does. That's why his supporters like him. So now, he's president for three more years. The question no one seems to know the answer to is what to do about it.
From the linked article:
Presidents have always been invited to this dinner. It is a charity event, raising money for journalism scholarships. However this is the first time this president has attended as president. The previous time he attended was in 2011 when he was invited by NBC during Obama. During his speech, Obama made a joke about Trump that obviously angered him. He's still angry and is not a forgiving guy. My expectation is he will attend this dinner and attack everyone in the room. He doesn't care. He will say whatever he wants to say to the groans of the people there. There's nothing they can do about it except walk out. We'll see if they leave before the desert.
www.nbcnews.com
Here's how to watch this year's dinner. It will be must see TV:
www.tvinsider.com
From the linked article:
Presidents have always been invited to this dinner. It is a charity event, raising money for journalism scholarships. However this is the first time this president has attended as president. The previous time he attended was in 2011 when he was invited by NBC during Obama. During his speech, Obama made a joke about Trump that obviously angered him. He's still angry and is not a forgiving guy. My expectation is he will attend this dinner and attack everyone in the room. He doesn't care. He will say whatever he wants to say to the groans of the people there. There's nothing they can do about it except walk out. We'll see if they leave before the desert.
That Time When Barack Obama and Seth Meyers Roasted Donald Trump
The White House Correspondents’ Dinner will mark the five-year anniversary of the night Obama and comedian Seth Meyers made Trump a laughingstock.
www.nbcnews.com
Here's how to watch this year's dinner. It will be must see TV:
2026 White House Correspondents Dinner: Is Trump Attending & How to Watch?
This will be a first, and here's everything to know about the event.
FCC Chairman Brendan Carr to Attend White House Correspondents’ Dinner
Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr will attend the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.
www.thewrap.com
Here is more given where we are now with the White House.
Speaking of the Correspondent's Dinner, this article says he plans to leave early:
www.thedailybeast.com
The question is: Who leaves first? Him or the reporters? Tune in Saturday night.
Trump’s Plans for ‘Mic-Drop’ Media Confrontation Are Leaked
The president is planning a rage-fueled moment at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner.
The question is: Who leaves first? Him or the reporters? Tune in Saturday night.
They should ask the mentalist. Isn’t Oz the headliner.Speaking of the Correspondent's Dinner, this article says he plans to leave early:
Trump’s Plans for ‘Mic-Drop’ Media Confrontation Are Leaked
The president is planning a rage-fueled moment at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner.
The question is: Who leaves first? Him or the reporters? Tune in Saturday night.
Some of the people out there think that the media represented by the "Big 3" networks, CNN, MS-Whatever-the-initials-are-now and papers like the NYT and WaPo have become very biased in their reporting and attitudes in press conferences. In other words, we find those reporters, and by association, the media they represent, to be absolutely dangerous for the democratic republic known as the United States of America.
So reporting the truth has become biased. What a very dystopian thing to say. I don’t like the facts so I will shut them down.
That’s the exact opposite of a democratic republic.
...meaning you.
Just like when Fox News begins a discussion with "People are saying..." Which people? Them! They're the ones saying it!
Without getting into politics or examples of "news items" that were widely reported despite not being accurate, I will mention that every reporter gives a bit of "flavor" to every story they write or deliver. I've seen major news events where different media has a totally different focus on the same event... so different that sometimes the story does not seem to be about the same events.
I've described in depth before how I saw an internationally significant event reported by different agencies, ranging from AP, UPI and Reuters to Prensa Latina and TASS and others like Time, Der Spiegel that demonstrated what I have said above: totally different perspectives, motives and aspects.
You are saying that some of the reports such as the infamous laptop, were not proven to be wrongly reported?
I don't like facts that are not verifiable. Because those are not facts but conjecture or rumor.
Reporting without verification is Okay if the report is something you like?
Who’s saying sources are not verified. When the media outlets all report the same thing they all have the same reporting. When Fox News reports something different guess what one the outlier is.
There is a difference from reporting the truth and reporting what the administration wants dictated as the truth.
Kelly Anne Conway coined the term, “alternative facts”.
You have a right to believe whatever you want to believe, and they have a right to report whatever they want to report. The courts have also ruled that the government can't prevent them from doing their jobs. As of now, the government hasn't followed the rulings of the court, and still continue to pack their press conferences with people they like.
The danger to the republic is when a government uses its power to force the media and the people to believe something, and ignores rulings by the court. That's what this thread is about. The president has created a constitutional crisis because he feels he is more powerful than the law and the court.
Again, I will mention my own experience with international news agencies and media in reference to events where I was living in Ecuador. The versions of the same events could seem like totally different stories when comparing AP, UPI, Newsweek, Time, France Press, Reuters, TASS, Prensa Latina and others.
In some cases, major international news agencies or publications just had different perspectives, while in others the facts were incorrectly reported... by large, international news journals or agencies.
I can't think of a single agency or medium that covers the news with its own reporters that has not gotten it wrong on occasion.
And that is your opinion. Others believe it is time that the newsrooms of the presidency and certain government agencies have a better balance of voices.
That’s not how a free press works. They don’t get to pick and chose what to report.
You want Russia state news where propaganda is reported as fact.
The media is human and makes mistakes. The difference is the media admits it and corrects it when it happens.
The government can't require balance. That's why we don't have a fairness doctrine. However, if you prefer government imposed balance, you should approve them to require talk radio to be balanced. The judges all the way up to the supreme court have supported freedom of speech, The president attacks them as being wrong,
I am suggesting that the intent is to have a better balance of perspectives by the reporters covering an event or press conference. Not a control on what is reported.
No, I want to have a better balance of media and reporters.
I've lived and worked in oppressive situations. Until you've had armed soldiers with rifles in your studios and newsroom, you can only speak theoretically. Every day, with every story, one has to evaluate what can be said without risking being jailed or "disappeared". We have nothing remotely like that here in the U.S.A.
It's illegal for the government to control that by purposely banning certain media it doesn't like. The government continues to break the law.
Once again, that is not for the government to do. You can control your balance by what you personally choose to use. That's up to you, and not the government. This should be simple to understand.