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Religious Radio Organization Cheers Upcoming Opportunities to Acquire More Signals

People ask me why I don't use Uber or Lyft and this is why. I'd rather walk.

In this case, that was not an option. It was a post-surgery follow-up and I was under doctor's orders not to resume driving myself yet. And it is a long walk from the San Fernando Valley to the eastern border of Beverly Hills, where the doctor's office is (he is affiliated with Cedars-Sinai and they own a lot of office space in that city, in addition to the hospital itself).
 
So here is my take:

I've been an NPR station engineer for over 35 years, my last gig before retirement was with KJZZ & KBAQ for 27 of those years.

Sure, NPR leaned to the Left, as it should against the rest of the radio voices. I found it as good a "comfort zone" in radio as one could get. That I was raised in a dual-union lefty household was normal for me. Never bought into any religion, so I'm Atheist.

The dollars in NPR stations was always relative to the market size, and the Phoenix duo had a good sized budget, with lots of listener support. CPB money was usually granted for facility improvements, and slararies on occasion. My position there was not tied to any external sources, the College District (hard money) paid me.

I've been retired for years now, and have seen NPR slowly drifting to the right in blatant fear reaction to political pressure. It was always there, but the listeners were the shield for them. Then came MAGA...

Moving on, I have never cared for EMF, as their Tucson engineer twice took a hammer to our translator there. We were both co-located. The second time, I had video proof he did it, and the site owner prosecuted them.

Yeah, there is plenty spectrum below 92MHz. Fair representation is all Non-religious noncoms demand in spite of the current administration.

Democracy Now is a great program, even if NPR never distributed it.

Dennis
 
Never bought into any religion, so I'm Atheist.

The way you phrased that, I am wondering if you are more agnostic than atheist. I have wandered all over the spectrum of spiritual beliefs and now consider myself to be largely non-denominational Christian with a bit of agnosticism and a few personal beliefs borrowed from Judaism and Buddhism.

I bring this up because it seems to me that EMF/K-Love are creating a broadcast denomination of their own.
 
I bring this up because it seems to me that EMF/K-Love are creating a broadcast denomination of their own.

I agree, and the fact that they don't use their radio signals to teach or preach keeps them out of the inter-denominational battles that often plague Christianity. That's not to say they don't take sides. But they don't push it the way VCY does. What most people don't understand is that Christianity is not one thing. Take a look at the history of Northern Ireland if you wonder what I mean. The history of the first amendment in this country was an attempt to keep the government out of taking sides in those inter-denominational battles.
 
The history of the first amendment in this country was an attempt to keep the government out of taking sides in those inter-denominational battles.
Plus the fact that many of the early American settlers were fringe religious cults who wouldn't get along with everyone else in their home countries, and were willing to move halfway across the world (and take a long, treacherous journey to get there) just so they could finally be free to peacefully practice their traditions such as witch burning and polygamy.

So yeah, basically "they're not sending their best", except 300+ years ago.
 
The way you phrased that, I am wondering if you are more agnostic than atheist. I have wandered all over the spectrum of spiritual beliefs and now consider myself to be largely non-denominational Christian with a bit of agnosticism and a few personal beliefs borrowed from Judaism and Buddhism.

I bring this up because it seems to me that EMF/K-Love are creating a broadcast denomination of their own.
I agree, and the fact that they don't use their radio signals to teach or preach keeps them out of the inter-denominational battles that often plague Christianity. That's not to say they don't take sides. But they don't push it the way VCY does. What most people don't understand is that Christianity is not one thing. Take a look at the history of Northern Ireland if you wonder what I mean. The history of the first amendment in this country was an attempt to keep the government out of taking sides in those inter-denominational battles.

Having just gone through a 26 hour fast, and spending 3 hours of Wednesday evening, and most of yesterday, in Yom Kippur services, I have a slightly different take on the matter that's fresh in my mind.

Tell me anywhere in this country where a Jewish radio station of any kind has existed in the last 22 years. Previous to 2003, the one station I'm aware of that could be claimed as "Jewish" was New York City's WEVD, which was owned by the Forward Association (publisher of the Yiddish language Daily Forward newspaper). And even then, the Jewish programming was limited to a small handful of cultural programs that were brokered time, with the program hosts going out and doing their own selling to merchant sponsors that wanted to reach WEVD's immigrant and first generation listeners. The only overtly religious programming was the occasional broadcast of a religious service from a synagogue somewhere for Sabbath or a holiday. There was no proselytizing or fundraising "begathons". (I know this because my own father was one of those listeners, and I can recall hearing "Art Raymond" or "Danny Stiles" on our radio more times than I can count.

Keep in mind I'm describing one station -- actually it was an AM and an FM -- in the one city with the world's largest Jewish population. I'm not aware of a similar station in Los Angeles, or Chicago, or Detroit, or Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Palm Beach County, Florida, other markets with significant populations of Jews. In a country with thousands of AM and FM stations, just one pair of stations that aimed some of their programming to Jewish listeners.

Now I ask you, why was there not a Jewish K-Love? Were there Jewish equivalents of Mega-Churches? Have you ever heard of rabbis pulling down 7 or 8 figure incomes, or flying around the country in their private jets, or living the high life in mansions? I think the answer is obvious. Because while nobody's ever accused Jews of wanting to live in poverty, getting rich on their religion by trying to convert non-believers by using the public airwaves to proselytize was and is anathema to us.

IMO, the reason these organizations get away with what they get away with is because the game has been rigged, by congressmen (and women) and senators and FCC commissioners and wealthy churches and wealthier denominations that are invariably some variation of Christian, and who want to rig the rules to favor, explicitly or implicitly, the denominations they favor. Those people give large contributions to those other people, who then do the favors that are the quid pro quo for the "campaign contributions" (or alternately, bribes), which allows this corruption to fester.
 
Tell me anywhere in this country where a Jewish radio station of any kind has existed in the last 22 years.

Fair question. Has any representative of the Jewish faith applied for a license for a Jewish radio station? Because that's where it starts. These things don't just happen. Someone has to form an organization and then apply for a license. If the application gets denied, then that's another story.

My Jewish friends tell me they feel its against their religion to engage in missionary work or attempt to convert people to Judaism. So that may have something to do with it. Not so for Christianity. It was built on the idea of spreading the word.

But I've worked at radio stations where they had a weekly "Jewish Hour."
 
My Jewish friends tell me they feel its against their religion to engage in missionary work or attempt to convert people to Judaism. So that may have something to do with it. Not so for Christianity. It was built on the idea of spreading the word.
Correct. There is nothing in the five books of Moses or the other books that make up the original ("Old") Testament that commands Jews to go out and convert non-believers.
 
My Jewish friends tell me they feel its against their religion to engage in missionary work or attempt to convert people to Judaism. So that may have something to do with it. Not so for Christianity. It was built on the idea of spreading the word.
Correct. There is nothing in the five books of Moses or the other books that make up the original ("Old") Testament that commands Jews to go out and convert non-believers.
Absolutely. In fact, there is a prohibition against doing that. Judaism takes converts, however we intentionally make it difficult to convert. We want only people who are serious about becoming Jewish and are willing to do the work it takes to become a convert. Sort of the equivalent of becoming a U.S. citizen. The goal isn't quantity, it's quality. (I'm not trying to say that converts to Christianity aren't quality people, just that the official philosophy seems to be "the more the merrier", so the bar is intentionally kept low.)

But I've worked at radio stations where they had a weekly "Jewish Hour."
Which probably counted towards the station's public affairs commitment. (e.g., "Eternal Light", or "Lamp Unto My Feet".) So not quite the same.

As for whether any Jewish-affiliated applicant or group ever has applied for a station license, that I can't talk to. However I agree with you, if the government denied such an application based on the group being Jewish, or the proposed programming tilting that way, I'd think that applicant would have quite the 1A case.

BTW, my goal wasn't to hijack or derail this discussion. It's an interesting one. Just thought I'd shed a little different perspective on it that no one else seemed to have.
 
As for whether any Jewish-affiliated applicant or group ever has applied for a station license, that I can't talk to.

But that's the point. The critics of EMF complain about their methods. But anyone can do the exact same thing if they want to.

In the case of public broadcasting, we're seeing that the non-college community licensees are the ones taking the leadership roles now that CPB has been defunded. When you remove the government money, the power reverts to the larger market stations that have built strong donor bases and relationships with corporate funders. Once again, it begins with groups of people who organize, apply for licenses, and build listener bases.
 
Having just gone through a 26 hour fast, and spending 3 hours of Wednesday evening, and most of yesterday, in Yom Kippur services, I have a slightly different take on the matter that's fresh in my mind.

I know this is supposed to be a wish prior to Yom Kippur, but I hope you had an easy fast.

IMO, the reason these organizations get away with what they get away with is because the game has been rigged, by congressmen (and women) and senators and FCC commissioners and wealthy churches and wealthier denominations that are invariably some variation of Christian, and who want to rig the rules to favor, explicitly or implicitly, the denominations they favor. Those people give large contributions to those other people, who then do the favors that are the quid pro quo for the "campaign contributions" (or alternately, bribes), which allows this corruption to fester.

I think you nailed it. Short of some megascandal affecting religious broadcasters, they'll keep having the resources to lobby elected officials, even while keeping their unfair tax exempt status, which means they aren't contributing to the operation of the government they are lobbying. Talk about a paradox ...

There is one religious broadcaster that I respect, even if I disagree with their politics, and that is Salem, which operates as a commercial entity and pays corporate taxes. Ed Atsinger and I were somewhat acquainted back when he was starting his "empire" with a single Class A FM in my hometown market of Oxnard-Ventura CA in the mid-1970s. In the 1980s, he helped a local organization start up a non-commercial Spanish language religious FM in that same market; at one point they had technical issues with their studio equipment and Ed asked me to go take a look. After I solved the problem, he asked me to bill him directly for my time (even though I protested) and he paid me within a week of receiving my invoice. Say what you will about him, but at least he is honest.
 
Moving on, I have never cared for EMF, as their Tucson engineer twice took a hammer to our translator there. We were both co-located. The second time, I had video proof he did it, and the site owner prosecuted them.
wow, It will be the same one that aired the first Spanish-language radio station in Tucson... stories... stories
 
I would politely ask that the station be changed, and if the driver didn't comply, I'd be on app accessing the "problem with your ride" function.

You would be entirely justified in so doing, and I would if I was held hostage w/political talk radio (whether Republican or Democrat).

Of course, if I were a driver, and enjoyed old-time radio, and someone riding with me insisted on K-LOVE or political radio, I'd likely be in a tough spot, given as how I don't enjoy either one.
 
You would be entirely justified in so doing, and I would if I was held hostage w/political talk radio (whether Republican or Democrat).

Of course, if I were a driver, and enjoyed old-time radio, and someone riding with me insisted on K-LOVE or political radio, I'd likely be in a tough spot, given as how I don't enjoy either one.

If any of those scenarios were to take place, I would then politely suggest the "off" button.

If that suggestion were rejected, I would say "pull over, then ... this ride is over".
 
If any of those scenarios were to take place, I would then politely suggest the "off" button.

If that suggestion were rejected, I would say "pull over, then ... this ride is over".
We were in a Lyft in early July, coming home from SFO after a dozen hours of flying in from Oslo, and then experiencing the joys of Customs and Border Protection. The driver was an otherwise nice and interesting fellow, a recent transplant to the Bay Area, but he was playing one of the (seemingly) dozen K-Love signals EMF has vacuumed up around here. Instead of complaining (which neither of us had the energy for after our all-day adventure of crossing nine time zones), I explained to my wife what we were hearing, and we listened to bits and pieces of the programming in between the conversation. If you ignore the lyrics, the music isn't all that terrible. To me it's a half-a-notch better than being subjected to hip-hop, or (God help us) opera.
 
Plus the fact that many of the early American settlers were fringe religious cults who wouldn't get along with everyone else in their home countries, and were willing to move halfway across the world (and take a long, treacherous journey to get there) just so they could finally be free to peacefully practice their traditions such as witch burning and polygamy.
First, the "fringe religious cults" developed into what we now consider to be the more traditional mainstream Christian faiths, such as the Presbyterians. And they did not just leave because they wanted to "be free"; they left because they were often time persecuted and marginalized in many ways.

The witch burning was fairly isolated, and polygamy limited to some very marginal faiths back in "Pilgrim times".
 
To me it's a half-a-notch better than being subjected to hip-hop, or (God help us) opera.
As someone who once flew about 5,600 miles to see and hear "Aida", I somewhat disagree :sneaky: .
 


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