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Report that CBS tentatively gets WKDN in Camden and WFSI in Annapolis, MD

Pab Sungenis said:
Irishfl said:
What numbers are you looking at? WIP-AM alone got a 2.1 AQH in August. WIP-FM got a 3.0 AQH in October, and WIP-AM got a 0.9 for a AQH total of 3.9. YSP got a 2.2 in August, which combined with WIP's August is a 4.3....is that what your referring to?
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Even if the total numbers took a hit (from 4.3 to 3.9) remember that CBS is now paying the same amount to operate that 3.9 that it used to pay just for the 2.1. So money-wise it's a winner for them.
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Yes the lack of a YSP staff on payroll probably more then offsets the minor decrease in overall ratings that adverting rates would be based on. However on top of that a sport format bills higher then rock, and has more advertising.
 
What about Family Radio's Philly FM?

CBS was supposedly in the hunt for that one, too - but did somebody else get it? Merlin Media, maybe? The station is Camden, NJ-licensed WKDN at 106.9. But it's possible the bidding process isn't complete, and that no winner has emerged. Media Venture Partners initiated the sale process on behalf of Harold Camping-run Family Radio in July.
 
"What about Family Radio's Philly FM?"

That will be the burning question at the Del Colliano Spring water cooler today, no doubt.

Let's look at the big picture: Yes, Merlin has big capital backing them up, but wouldn't you think that they would at least see if they got any net gain out of their New York and Chicago properties before expanding onto other markets? I think this was their plan from the getgo.
 
They may not be interetinterested in the Philly FM just after putting an all newser, but how often does a Philly FM become available? That could be something worth pondering. Unless CBS or Greater Media wants to get rid of there AM's (610 or 950), I dont see any Philly stations becomeing avaibleavailable any time soon. Besides that, neither of those are on FM.
 
Bill_W said:
Mike said:
im praying to god that merlin does not end up with 106.9
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If they do, noone has to listen. I'm hoping for KYW-FM.
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The last thing we need in town is yet another signal wasted in a simulcast. If CBS does end up with it and goes KYW-FM, I'm hoping they at least do something with the AM (oldies oldies?!)

My mindset is that an announcement would have been made when the WFSI deal closed if CBS had acquired WKDN as well. Perhaps Merlin is dragging their feet, seeing how things in NY and CHI pan out, maybe launching an altered version of the format on 106.9 once (if) they get it.

Or maybe the world will end and we'll never get to find out what happens ;D
 
CBS only paid $8.5M for Family Radio's Annapolis signal. You read right.

I don't think money's an issue with unloading WKDN... rather, Family Radio appears to be the ones that are dragging their feet.
 
Wondering if Family Radio could be holding out for an AM that would cover the market? We'll have to wait and see.
 
DG02816 said:
Wondering if Family Radio could be holding out for an AM that would cover the market? We'll have to wait and see.
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I don't know. They are clearly in retrenchment mode. Giving up a decent DC-Balto signal for literally nothing in return, would say as such.

When they give up WKDN, they won't be coming back.
 
John Holcomb II said:
They may not be interetinterested in the Philly FM just after putting an all newser, but how often does a Philly FM become available? That could be something worth pondering. Unless CBS or Greater Media wants to get rid of there AM's (610 or 950), I dont see any Philly stations becomeing avaibleavailable any time soon. Besides that, neither of those are on FM.
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I'm with you. Sure the big picture says they should to making sure their other properties are making money before expanding, but Philly FM's aren't on sale everyweek. They might have to jump in, but a station, and then see if its worth investing the money in programing. If not, then make it music and sell it at around the same price a year from now.
 
oh wow imagine if cbs could take over 106.9 right now they could debut Fresh 106.9

grab those b101 listeners who are stuck with christmas music
 
Uh huh, and try anaohanother possible AC failing like WSNI Sunny 104.5?
Then again, we see how many flavors of Hot AC's in Philly have been tried. Not sue how well WIFX is doing, but (Moddern ACMax 95-7) went away. WMWX (Mix 95.7 Hot AC) w went away. Before that i it was WYXR "Star 104.5" who boncedbounced between Hot AC Moddern AC and CHR went away.
Could Soft AC, Smooz Jazz or 59's-70's Oldies survive here? Based on what happend before (who remembers WPEN as Real Oldies?) i'd say not. Standards also died too.
What's left to ty? Current dance? Nah dont see it as CHR incoperincorperates dance friendly tracks. A Harder version of Classic Rock? w WYSP went buh bye. Easy listening? (hey a man can ream WFMZ)

All of these formats died cause evryboeverybody's too old for advertisers, eben even though those older people aren't dead yet.
I know its aboutmakeing money, but what's left that could make money that people would flock to that hasn't been tried or isn't already here?
 
Not my money at stake here, but if they fail to move KYW to FM, whether through WKDN or some other purchase, they will start losing out.

WKDN may have an inferior signal currently, but it could be upgraded, could be in Philadelphia, and is not 10.6 or 10.8 Mhz away from another area station, so couldn't it end up on Domino Lane?

KYW is maintaining its listener base, but I would find it hard to believe that new listeners are finding the station, or believe a recorded teletype sound is important.

If the bet is that Philadelphia is a provincial backwater mired in pointless tradition, than you don't need news on FM. I wonder what the radio powers that be really think.

Strawbridges and Wanamakers are gone, Bookbinders is out of business, the Philly newspapers are suffering because of new news sources, and even traditional ones in the suburbs. I think we are at the point in local history, when even a product inferior to KYW on FM has a chance of making inroads. I believe we are somewhat less bound to tradition than we once were. The decline and elimination of WYSP, without significant fanfare, is evidence of that. The inroads gained by 97.5 prior to WIP on FM suggest the same thing.
 
I still think KYW will ultimately go to FM, with 106.9 a good choice. As for Family Radio, they still have a presence In Baltimore, owning WBMD 750 and WBGR 860.Can't see them selling big signal FM's and leaving a market like Philly or DC without alternate ways of covering it. This is why I'm keeping an eye open in case they do a deal with an AM .
 
DG02816 said:
I still think KYW will ultimately go to FM, with 106.9 a good choice. As for Family Radio, they still have a presence In Baltimore, owning WBMD 750 and WBGR 860.Can't see them selling big signal FM's and leaving a market like Philly or DC without alternate ways of covering it. This is why I'm keeping an eye open in case they do a deal with an AM .
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WKDN 610 AM? KYW 1060 AM and KYW 106.9 FM?
 
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