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Richard wagoner plans on a new feature in the Los Angeles daily news

34james

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Richard has announced he's planning on a feature on stations that don't exist anymore here in LA. Oldies76 and hagerty I had you guys in mind. Oldies76 I know you will be thrilled putting in an email to Richard. Here is wagoners email

[email protected]
Have at it oldies76 have fun I know you will
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned KZLA. I used to listen to it as a kid. Until it went off the air. How were their shares?
 
Richard has announced he's planning on a feature on stations that don't exist anymore here in LA. Oldies76 and hagerty I had you guys in mind. Oldies76 I know you will be thrilled putting in an email to Richard. Here is wagoners email

[email protected]
Have at it oldies76 have fun I know you will
If he's going to do an article on radio stations that don't exist any more in L.A., then, as a suggestion, he could include the Top 40 rocker stations. And he could interview the original air talent, if possible. There are 2 KRLA guys who are still very lucid and very well spoken, and those are Wink Martindale and Bob Eubanks. They are in the L.A. metro area and are probably in any directory available to people in the trade. Also, I think that Johnny Hayes is still around somewhere. And Larry Van Nuys can talk about KHJ Boss Radio.
Rocker KFWB went to all-news in '68, and I don't think any of those guys are still around who are still lucid. JMO.

From the 80's an 90's, talent like Shadoe Stevens and Manny Pacheco are still around. It depends on how far Richard wants to go back. There are probably more KRLA jocks around from the 90's, when KRLA was one of the last AM stations to have a music format.

Going back to the 60's and 70's most of those guys are gone, sadly.

It's fine to chat with the historians, but also try to find the original talent in order to add to the authenticity of his feature. Only a suggestion. JMO -- Daryl
 
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I'm sorry. I get too exuberant about coverage of old time radio. This isn't my concern, and I shouldn't have spoken up. It's too late to delete my message, but please just ignore it. Thank you.
 
Richard has announced he's planning on a feature on stations that don't exist anymore here in LA. Oldies76 and hagerty I had you guys in mind. Oldies76 I know you will be thrilled putting in an email to Richard. Here is wagoners email

[email protected]
Have at it oldies76 have fun I know you will
Richard and I communicate now and then---he knows how to get in touch if he's interested.
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned KZLA. I used to listen to it as a kid. Until it went off the air. How were their shares?

KZLA was Country from 1980 to 2004, so not that recent and a healthy run in terms of longevity.

Book by book, it was a struggle. They got into the Country format three weeks ahead of KHJ and so there was a three-way Country battle for almost two and a half years (four, really, as KZLA AM and FM were separately programmed---the AM was automated).

KLAC had a 4 share in the book that was released around the time KHJ and KZLA made their decisions. It was top 5 in the summer '80 book.

The first full book was Winter of '81 and it was KLAC 3.5, KZLA-FM 2.5, KHJ 2.0 and KZLA-AM 0.5.

Everybody lost share in the Spring book, there wasn't much change in the summer.

Winter '82 was where KZLA had its first win, though it essentially held steady and KLAC dropped below it: KZLA-FM 2.5, KLAC 2.0, KHJ 1.6 (R&R's cutoff in the ratings directories was a 1.0 by this point, so there's no data on KZLA-AM---it was sold and went Spanish in '84).

KLAC tied KZLA at 2.1 in the Spring '82 book, with KHJ at a 1.5, and KLAC regained the lead in the summer, while still losing share: KLAC 1.9, KZLA 1.6 and KHJ 1.4.

Fall '82 was the deciding book for KHJ. KLAC 2.4, KZLA 2.1 and KHJ 1.4. Those numbers would have been published a little over 90 days before KHJ dumped Country on April 1, 1983.

Once it became a two-way race, KZLA pulled ahead. Summer of '83 was KZLA 2.4, KLAC 1.8, and the fall book was KZLA 1.9, KLAC 1.6.

KZLA beat KLAC from then until KLAC dropped out of the format in 1993, but neither station was doing that well---a great book for KZLA was to break a 2.5, and KLAC stayed in the mid-to-upper 1s.

Once KZLA had Country all to itself, things really didn't improve that much. Its best ratings---and hardcore country listeners and critics of this particular PD all hate this, but it's the truth---was under John Sebastian (1996-1998) when it got to a 2.9 and broke into the Top 10:



But that was the peak. It never got better than that, and in 2006, they flipped to what was described as Rhythmic AC with Movin'.
 
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What really killed the station was the sale to Emmis.
Yep. I should have mentioned the ownership changes. KZLA launched under Capital Cities (before it bought ABC), and was sold to Malrite in 1984 (which bought KLAC in 1987 and shifted it to Classic Country).

Shamrock merged with Malrite in 1994, Chancellor swallowed Shamrock in 1996 and it was Chancellor that hired John Sebastian.

Chancellor swapped stations with Bonneville in 1998, and they sold KZLA to Emmis in 2000.
 
KZLA was Country from 1980 to 2004, so not that recent and a healthy run in terms of longevity.

Book by book, it was a struggle. They got into the Country format three weeks ahead of KHJ and so there was a three-way Country battle for almost two and a half years (four, really, as KZLA AM and FM were separately programmed---the AM was automated).

KLAC had a 4 share in the book that was released around the time KHJ and KZLA made their decisions. It was top 5 in the summer '80 book.

The first full book was Winter of '81 and it was KLAC 3.5, KZLA-FM 2.5, KHJ 2.0 and KZLA-AM 0.5.

Everybody lost share in the Spring book, there wasn't much change in the summer.

Winter '82 was where KZLA had its first win, though it essentially held steady and KLAC dropped below it: KZLA-FM 2.5, KLAC 2.0, KHJ 1.6 (R&R's cutoff in the ratings directories was a 1.0 by this point, so there's no data on KZLA-AM---it was sold and went Spanish in '84).

KLAC tied KZLA at 2.1 in the Spring '82 book, with KHJ at a 1.5, and KLAC regained the lead in the summer, while still losing share: KLAC 1.9, KZLA 1.6 and KHJ 1.4.

Fall '82 was the deciding book for KHJ. KLAC 2.4, KZLA 2.1 and KHJ 1.4. Those numbers would have been published a little over 90 days before KHJ dumped Country on April 1, 1983.

Once it became a two-way race, KZLA pulled ahead. Summer of '83 was KZLA 2.4, KLAC 1.8, and the fall book was KZLA 1.9, KLAC 1.6.

KZLA beat KLAC from then until KLAC dropped out of the format in 1993, but neither station was doing that well---a great book for KZLA was to break a 2.5, and KLAC stayed in the mid-to-upper 1s.

Once KZLA had Country all to itself, things really didn't improve that much. Its best ratings---and hardcore country listeners and critics of this particular PD all hate this, but it's the truth---was under John Sebastian (1996-1998) when it got to a 2.9 and broke into the Top 10:



But that was the peak. It never got better than that, and in 2006, they flipped to what was described as Rhythmic AC with Movin'.
Wow hagerty i knew you would know the history behind kzla
 
Yep. I should have mentioned the ownership changes. KZLA launched under Capital Cities (before it bought ABC), and was sold to Malrite in 1984 (which bought KLAC in 1987 and shifted it to Classic Country).
Cap Cities purchased KLAC from Metromedia in 1984 and separately programmed country music on 5~Seventy and 93~Nine. That combo was sold to Malrite after Cap Cities acquired KABC & KLOS from ABC. While KZLA wasn't a big money maker, Cap Cities was happy to have the format basically all to themselves in el Lay.
 
Cap Cities purchased KLAC from Metromedia in 1984 and separately programmed country music on 5~Seventy and 93~Nine. That combo was sold to Malrite after Cap Cities acquired KABC & KLOS from ABC. While KZLA wasn't a big money maker, Cap Cities was happy to have the format basically all to themselves in el Lay.

Thanks, Doc! Sorry for any confusion.
 
With Rick Dees in the mornin
I heard Poorman say once that Rick loved to golf and would always talk about it off air, but told Poorman never to mention it on air. So one Monday morning, Poorman asked him how his golf game went over the weekend. He said Rick laughed it off on air but went nuts during the break!
 
I heard Poorman say once that Rick loved to golf and would always talk about it off air, but told Poorman never to mention it on air. So one Monday morning, Poorman asked him how his golf game went over the weekend. He said Rick laughed it off on air but went nuts during the break!
Golf is perceived as a rich man's game, so I understand why Rick might not want it mentioned. I also know of several on-air morning show people who have cars that are in the low 6-figure cost category, and they let their sidekicks know that mentioning that on the air is totally forbidden.
 
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