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Richard wagoner plans on a new feature in the Los Angeles daily news

The number on the right ("cume") is the total number of listeners to each of these stations in a given week:

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That's every radio station in Los Angeles getting a 1.1 or better. KRTH not only has the highest share, it has the highest cume of any station in the market---218,500 more listeners than the second-highest coming station.

It's okay to not like KRTH. It's okay to not understand what KRTH plays, or why it's successful with it. But the fact of the matter is that in its best book of the Drake-Morgan-Steele "golden era", it had a weekly cume of 1,477,710. Today it's 2,321,300.
It's like the person with an IQ of 68 is considered a genius because everyone else in the room measures in the 50's or less. Radio pretty much stopped taking chances when the industry consolidated in the 90's and the feeling of awe on the air in an earlier time current newer listeners will never know.
 
It's like the person with an IQ of 68 is considered a genius because everyone else in the room measures in the 50's or less. Radio pretty much stopped taking chances when the industry consolidated in the 90's and the feeling of awe on the air in an earlier time current newer listeners will never know.
We used the same procedures going back to the 50's and 60's. This has nothing to do with consolidation and everything to do with giving listeners what they like and NOT things they don't like.
 
It's like the person with an IQ of 68 is considered a genius because everyone else in the room measures in the 50's or less. Radio pretty much stopped taking chances when the industry consolidated in the 90's and the feeling of awe on the air in an earlier time current newer listeners will never know.

Arguments in bad faith don't fly well on this board, rparky, and especially not with me.

You started out with "nothing near their former glory."

When I produced a ratings comparison of "the good old days" with today, you shifted to "A 6.8 share of a small number is still a lot less than a 3 or 4 share of a large number."

When I produced the cume numbers showing they have 900,000 more weekly listeners now than in "the good old days" and are almost a quarter-million weekly listeners ahead of the second-highest cuming station, we get your comment above.

Again: It's okay to not like KRTH. It's okay to not understand what KRTH plays, or why it's successful with it. But it is, and some very talented professionals work hard to make it that way.

This is not the place where cranky old guys come in to say "I don't like it, so it sucks" over and over. There are dozens of Facebook groups that have zero standards and will put up with that. Not here.
 
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The station similar to krth in my hometown of Louisville ky is usually top 3 sometimes number 1. Waky 103.5 So these classic hit stations that are heavy 80s on the whole are doin very well.

What's weird if someone can explain it to me...Twenty or so years ago when you had all 80s stations they didn't last but today these classic hits stations that are heavy 80s do well. Why do they the classic hits heavy 80s stations do well today but the all 80s stations back in the day didn't?
 
What's weird if someone can explain it to me...Twenty or so years ago when you had all 80s stations they didn't last but today these classic hits stations that are heavy 80s do well. Why do they the classic hits heavy 80s stations do well today but the all 80s stations back in the day didn't?

It was too soon 20 years ago, and the 80s music that's being played today is different from the 80s music those stations based their libraries on.
 
It was too soon 20 years ago, and the 80s music that's being played today is different from the 80s music those stations based their libraries on.
How are they different today Michael? Seems to me you heard the same songs COME ON EILLEEN,MELT WITH YOU,ST ELMOS FIRE,8675309,VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR and on and on.
 
How are they different today Michael? Seems to me you heard the same songs COME ON EILLEEN,MELT WITH YOU,ST ELMOS FIRE,8675309,VIDEO KILLED THE RADIO STAR and on and on.
Here's the most current three hours of KRTH. It's a very different set of songs. The ones you list may get play, but today, there are also tracks that wouldn't have been considered undeniable mass-appeal 80s hits 20 years ago---and there's an acknowledgement of hip-hop that was lacking then:


 
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