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Rumor: Howard Stern to xxxleavexxx Stay At SXM

TheBigA said:
My view on him is he has reinvented himself several times. That's how you last a long time. Imus did too. So did Rush.
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Rush may be said to have evolved, but he did not "reinvent" himself.

Imus in Cleveland early on was about the same, with rougher edges, that he was in NYC.

Stern has matured. He had childish almost early teen stuff back when he dressed like a penis. He wanted to do stuff that was shocking. Now he wants to say things that have meaning. So either I agree with you that Stern reinvented himself, or I make the distinction that he just matured; its about the same thing. Stern, of course, was about 40 or so when he finally became an adult.
 
Doesn‘t he threaten to quit every year, then he spends the next 15 shows or 45 hours solid talking about quitting and about how he is never going to come back, nobody can make him come back, the management sucks, everyone sucks, he is a such a victim, no one understands how difficult his life is in having to interview all these porn actors and play butt bongo and make T and A jokes, and everyone will be sorry when he is gone, ..........................and just on and on, and on, and on ad nauseum.......:rolleyes::sick:(n)
 
Daryl Lynn L.A. said:
Doesn‘t he threaten to quit every year, then he spends the next 15 shows or 45 hours solid talking about quitting and about how he is never going to come back, nobody can make him come back, the management sucks, everyone sucks, he is a such a victim, no one understands how difficult his life is in having to interview all these porn actors and play butt bongo and make T and A jokes, and everyone will be sorry when he is gone, ..........................and just on and on, and on, and on ad nauseum.......:rolleyes::sick:(n)
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If we believe a tabloid rumor, this is not Stern threatening anything; it is Sirius/XM supposedly reducing his pay or cutting his contract.
 
davideduardo said:
If we believe a tabloid rumor, this is not Stern threatening anything; it is Sirius/XM supposedly reducing his pay or cutting his contract.
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The article mentions Studdering John who hasn’t been on the show in over 20 years.
John Melendez, who worked on The Howard Stern Show from 1988 until his exit in 2004, claimed Stern's plea to employees to pretend to be fans was "a scar in his career."
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Don CT said:
The article mentions Studdering John who hasn’t been on the show in over 20 years.
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I believe it is "Stuttering John" with a double "t".

"John Edward Melendez, also known as Stuttering John, and The Duke of the Dabbleverse, is an American entertainer. He is best known for being a staff member on The Howard Stern Show from 1988 to 2004." (Google AI response)
 
The InsideRadio report says, "Stern, 71, has been a dominant voice in American radio since his early days at WNBC and then “K-Rock” WXRK, where “The Howard Stern Show” became a national phenomenon with widespread syndication."

Exaggeration or hyperbole, this is certainly an overstatement. On terrestrial radio, at his peak, Stern was only on a "handful" of stations; saying he was a "dominant voice" would indicate he had national shares greater than, let´s say, Rush Limbaugh... which he did not have.
 
davideduardo said:
The InsideRadio report says, "Stern, 71, has been a dominant voice in American radio since his early days at WNBC and then “K-Rock” WXRK, where “The Howard Stern Show” became a national phenomenon with widespread syndication."

Exaggeration or hyperbole, this is certainly an overstatement. On terrestrial radio, at his peak, Stern was only on a "handful" of stations; saying he was a "dominant voice" would indicate he had national shares greater than, let´s say, Rush Limbaugh... which he did not have.
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He did have a large impact, I think that can be agreed on.

SXM won't agree to continue to pay his current salary and his contract is coming to an end. Doubtful that he'll agree to work for less.

He's had quite the run. At present, I think he is less influential that top podcasters with Joe Rogan being an example. That doesn't erase his long history in broadcasting it simply acknowledges that his place in the pecking order has been eclipsed and he's no longer able to return economic value to warrant his current salary.
 
umfan said:
He did have a large impact, I think that can be agreed on.

SXM won't agree to continue to pay his current salary and his contract is coming to an end. Doubtful that he'll agree to work for less.

He's had quite the run. At present, I think he is less influential that top podcasters with Joe Rogan being an example. That doesn't erase his long history in broadcasting it simply acknowledges that his place in the pecking order has been eclipsed and he's no longer able to return economic value to warrant his current salary.
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Rogan has the younger generation but does he have staying power. He went full politics. Stern is still entertaining.
 
Don CT said:
Rogan has the younger generation but does he have staying power. He went full politics. Stern is still entertaining.
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No argument. Hard to tell if Rogan will continue to hold his prominent place. Stern indeed still entertains millions. He can continue to earn millions per year doing it, it'll just be less millions than he currently gets. More a reflection of the economics of broadcasting rather than anything about his abilities.
 
umfan said:
No argument. Hard to tell if Rogan will continue to hold his prominent place. Stern indeed still entertains millions. He can continue to earn millions per year doing it, it'll just be less millions than he currently gets. More a reflection of the economics of broadcasting rather than anything about his abilities.
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I think he will take a pay cut just to stay relevant. Or do some side gigs to make money.
 
davideduardo said:
The InsideRadio report says, "Stern, 71, has been a dominant voice in American radio since his early days at WNBC and then “K-Rock” WXRK, where “The Howard Stern Show” became a national phenomenon with widespread syndication."

Exaggeration or hyperbole, this is certainly an overstatement. On terrestrial radio, at his peak, Stern was only on a "handful" of stations; saying he was a "dominant voice" would indicate he had national shares greater than, let´s say, Rush Limbaugh... which he did not have.
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Well, he was on in all of the major markets across the U.S. at his peak, which would agree with the use of the term "widespread", compared to being limited to just a region of the country.

I might even argue that just NYC and L.A. are "widespread" and he was definitely in both of those markets.

I would argue that his frequent appearances on Letterman made his voice more dominant than Rush, who -- aside from that disaster of a nightly television program that somehow lasted four seasons in the mid-1990s -- tended to speak only from his radio pulpit.

But I don't think "overstatement" applies here.
 
K.M. Richards said:
Well, he was on in all of the major markets across the U.S. at his peak, which would agree with the use of the term "widespread", compared to being limited to just a region of the country.
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Yes, a big handful of the very big markets, but he did no play well outside of those as he did not get many agency buys, and the number of big local direct accounts in places like Columbus or Topeka were limited.
K.M. Richards said:
I might even argue that just NYC and L.A. are "widespread" and he was definitely in both of those markets.
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But not even #1 in LA, for example. The real analysis is that he was very strong among non-Hispanic white 18-34 men back then, with huge TSL and no-so-good cume. My number crunching showed that Stern would have had a hard time being in the top 10 in many markets once the PPM came... but he had moved on by then...

The classic Stern diary entry was "6AM to 10 AM Stern". No obvious breaks for a shower, etc., etc. This is one of the cases where I believe listeners were voting for Howard and not really documenting their listening.
K.M. Richards said:
I would argue that his frequent appearances on Letterman made his voice more dominant than Rush, who -- aside from that disaster of a nightly television program that somehow lasted four seasons in the mid-1990s -- tended to speak only from his radio pulpit.
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Yet, outside his rather narrow core, he was not an "attraction".
K.M. Richards said:
But I don't think "overstatement" applies here.
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To me, it is very exaggerated.
 
K.M. Richards said:
Let's face it ... Stern is a shadow of his former self. What made him a successful "shock jock" back in the day is content that is considered tame in this era.

He's even more of a dinosaur than I am, and I use that term on myself all the time.
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B-b-but... he...he's the King Of All Media! He said so himself!
 
This is all simply speculation. I don't think anyone high up in Sirius XM was interviewed. Or anyone close to Stern. The word "clickbait" comes to mind. The article says Stern made up "fake Twitter accounts" to snag big-name guests. Huh? That's grounds for being terminated? This same publication tells us that Cher is reaching out to her late mother's grave to help her son. And Ken Jennings is failing to honor Alex Trebek's memory on Jeopardy. Geez. This is the source?

If you like Stern and are paying $12 a month, that's $144 a year. Multiply that times 2 million subscribers, a number I've heard in the past, and that's $288,000,000. I think that's enough to justify a $100 million salary. Sirius XM gets to keep the other $188 million plus whatever subscriptions it has of folks who aren't interested in Stern.

Again, an article from a dubious source that's pure speculation.
 
Gregg. said:
If you like Stern and are paying $12 a month, that's $144 a year. Multiply that times 2 million subscribers, a number I've heard in the past, and that's $288,000,000. I think that's enough to justify a $100 million salary. Sirius XM gets to keep the other $188 million plus whatever subscriptions it has of folks who aren't interested in Stern.
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But for every subscriber there are administrative costs, music licensing fees and so on. So there is not $188 million simply left over to go to the bottom line.
 


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