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S.C. Station Touts Its AM Stereo, Urges Others to Join In

> Are any of these receivers still being built? Have any cars
> built in the last 8-10 years come equipped with AM stereo
> radios, or will you have to pick up that '88 Dodge Omni with
> one brown door at Honest Eddie's in order to hear it?

So that's where my old car ended up? Yikes, I actually drove an 84 Dodge Omni. It had the AM Stereo Radio in it. It was awesome! I eventually sold the poor thing. The radio that you'll find in it now though at Honest Eddie's isn't the AM Stereo radio, but some other Dodge Factory radio that I picked up at the bone yard. The AM stereo radio is still sitting here on my shelf.
 
> > Perhaps 2006 will be the year of AM Stereo's revival...
> or,
> > at least there's one station which still believes in it:
>
> >
> > At 3:30 p.m. today Eastern time, we activated our new
> Delta
> > AM Stereo Exciter at WNMB. Pilot lights on the AM Stereo
> > tuners came on and the channel separation was immediately
> > evident as "All I Want For Christmas" became the first
> song
> > played in AM Stereo.
> >
>
> What are they smoking? Did they pull a Rip Van Winkle or
> something? AM stereo has been dead for 15+ years. No one
> but a few radio geeks cared in the 80s, no one cares today.
> Just what the public has been clamoring for...electrical
> noise in stereo.
>
> > Give me a few days to do my tuning and then we'll be happy
>
> > to e-mail airchecks on MP3 files to anyone who would
> request
> > one. We have about half a dozen different kinds of AM
> > Stereo receivers including Sony SRF-A100, Sony SRF-A1,
> > Marantz, Radio Shack TM-152, a Ford Thunderbird with AM
> > Stereo and several others should you have a specific
> > request.
>
> Are any of these receivers still being built? Have any cars
> built in the last 8-10 years come equipped with AM stereo
> radios, or will you have to pick up that '88 Dodge Omni with
> one brown door at Honest Eddie's in order to hear it?
>

We have a 2004 Ford Explorer with AM stereo. GREAT radio!!
 
Re: So... (try this) WHAT???!!????

> > I've also been bothered by IBiquity's sales tactics this
> > year. They have been giving the "act now before the price
> of
> > licensing skyrockets" pitch. This annoys me to no end, and
>
> > makes me severely less likely to act now.
>
> This says volumes about Ibiquity. They know they have a
> white elephant - they want to get a load of money fast
> before the whole thing collapses, you will be stuck with
> orphan equipment, a smaller bank account, and a few dozen
> digital listeners if you go digital.
>
> My sister in law knows nothing about HD radio. But she does
> know that her station quit running RDS song titles on her
> radio. And that now there is picket fencing and dropouts on
> her station that weren't there before. These are both
> "advantages" of IBOC.


HUH???!!!!??? OK lets STOP the misinformation shall we????? Good grief!

IBOC does not interfere with RDS nor create picket fencing. If you KNEW how the system was transmitted you would not be making such stupid remarks.

Dislike IBOC if you want. But EDUCATE yourself on what it is and how it works.

Dont get me wrong I am not a huge supporter of iBiqity or IBOC. But it is a technology that we need to learn about.

>
> With consumers keeping their cars longer and longer - an
> average of ten years - it will take a long time for C-Quam
> AM radios and RDW FM radios to disappear. Replaced by, for
> the most part, satellite capable car radios and sound
> systems allowing inputs from iPods and DVD players. Be
> afraid. Be VERY afraid!
>


OH THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!! FYI most satellite compatible radios are also HD Radio compatible.
 
>
> So that's where my old car ended up? Yikes, I actually
> drove an 84 Dodge Omni. It had the AM Stereo Radio in it.
> It was awesome! I eventually sold the poor thing. The
> radio that you'll find in it now though at Honest Eddie's
> isn't the AM Stereo radio, but some other Dodge Factory
> radio that I picked up at the bone yard. The AM stereo
> radio is still sitting here on my shelf.
>

The one problem with the Chrysler radios is that there was no mono/stereo switch, and the platform motion while listening to skywave could induce vertigo. I liked the premium Delco receivers from the early 90s...they did have a mono/stereo switch. I don't think too many of them were made though...you don't come across them very often. AM stereo was standard on the Chrysler radios for about 10 years, maybe more.

I hung onto the stereo radio from a mid-80s Plymouth I had too.
 
Re: So... (try this) WHAT???!!????

> Dislike IBOC if you want. But EDUCATE yourself on what it
> is and how it works.

A little bit of respect for your fellow engineers will yield better results than insults.

IBOC is new to everybody. I just knew that the station shut off RDS, and assumed it was incompatibility, the same as AM IBOC is not compatible with C-Quam. I mean - bad engineering on the AM band might - and probably does - translate to bad engineering on FM. They obsolete a perfectly good AM stereo system in use in hundreds of thousands - perhaps still millions of vehicles, so why not obsolete SCA, RDS, teletext for deaf on FM subchannels: services still
used, but by FAR fewer listeners than are capable of hearing C-Quam.

> Dont get me wrong I am not a huge supporter of iBiqity or
> IBOC. But it is a technology that we need to learn about.

Agreed. But the whole thing looks set to self-implode. I wouldn't put any money into it until it is clear that consumers will accept it.

> OH THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

Wasn't chicken little right in the latest movie? Every single prediction I made about HDTV over 15 years ago has come true.

> FYI most
> satellite compatible radios are also HD Radio compatible.

I find NONE in Crutchfield.

One thing is for certain - the FCC needs to take another look at AM skywave service. Try telling hundreds of thousands of hurricane Katrina survivors that nighttime skywave service from WWL was (and still is) not important. But the ability of local AM talk stations to have commercials and musical bed in digital stereo at night is more important than vital information about their home town.
 
Re: So... (try this) WHAT???!!????

> > Dislike IBOC if you want. But EDUCATE yourself on what it
>
> > is and how it works.
>
> A little bit of respect for your fellow engineers will yield
> better results than insults.

Fair enough, and I applogize. I just see so much MISinformation running around!

>
> IBOC is new to everybody. I just knew that the station shut
> off RDS, and assumed it was incompatibility, the same as AM
> IBOC is not compatible with C-Quam. I mean - bad
> engineering on the AM band might - and probably does -
> translate to bad engineering on FM. They obsolete a
> perfectly good AM stereo system in use in hundreds of
> thousands - perhaps still millions of vehicles, so why not
> obsolete SCA, RDS, teletext for deaf on FM subchannels:
> services still
> used, but by FAR fewer listeners than are capable of hearing
> C-Quam.

I am a fan of AM Stereo. I woul d hate to see it go away.

As far as FM goes there is no incompatibility between analog and IBOC. Everything that works in the past will work now. I have one FM that is running the Microsoft SCA and running HD Radio. RDS still works as well.

>
> > Dont get me wrong I am not a huge supporter of iBiqity or
> > IBOC. But it is a technology that we need to learn about.
>
>
> Agreed. But the whole thing looks set to self-implode. I
> wouldn't put any money into it until it is clear that
> consumers will accept it.

And that will take time. This needs to bake out quite a bit yet. Come summer I am sure we will see more awareness.

>
> > OH THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
>
> Wasn't chicken little right in the latest movie? Every
> single prediction I made about HDTV over 15 years ago has
> come true.
>
> > FYI most
> > satellite compatible radios are also HD Radio compatible.
>
> I find NONE in Crutchfield.

Here are a few:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-EE4rSzSNjnH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?wm=fp&I=113EZ900&g=300 (with built in HD Radio receiver!)

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-EE4rSzSNjnH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=113MP4028

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-EE4rSzSNjnH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=113MP5028

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-EE4rSzSNjnH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=113EZ500

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-EE4rSzSNjnH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&I=113MP628

And so on...


>
> One thing is for certain - the FCC needs to take another
> look at AM skywave service. Try telling hundreds of
> thousands of hurricane Katrina survivors that nighttime
> skywave service from WWL was (and still is) not important.
> But the ability of local AM talk stations to have
> commercials and musical bed in digital stereo at night is
> more important than vital information about their home town.
>


I dont think that is what is being said at all. People are looking for ways to improve the AM service. I still think that AM stereo is the way to go. This all needs to be baked out again. We are far from having a completed solution.
 
Re: So... (try this) WHAT???!!????

> Here are a few:

This borrowed computer can't bring up the links. All I had available was printed catalog. Are the links to radios with HD capability, or just "HD capable"?
 
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