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San Francisco Supervisors ask the FCC to look into KNEW's license

In the wake of talk host Bill O'Reilly's Nov. 8 inflammatory comments about terrorists bombing San Francisco, The San Francisco Board of Supervisors passed a resolution Wednesday asking the Federal Communications Commission to closely examine the license of KNEW-AM (910), the station that hosts O'Reilly's show nightly at 7 p.m.

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> In the wake of talk host Bill O'Reilly's Nov. 8 inflammatory
> comments about terrorists bombing San Francisco, The San
> Francisco Board of Supervisors passed a resolution Wednesday
> asking the Federal Communications Commission to closely
> examine the license of KNEW-AM (910), the station that hosts
> O'Reilly's show nightly at 7 p.m.
>
htt> p://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2005/11/san_francisco_s_1.html
>
I doubt anything will happen, cc's lawyers will be all over this. Having said that, I do not like KNEW nor any host on this station. I haven't listened to KNEW since the 60's.
 
> In the wake of talk host Bill O'Reilly's Nov. 8 inflammatory
> comments about terrorists bombing San Francisco, The San
> Francisco Board of Supervisors passed a resolution Wednesday
> asking the Federal Communications Commission to closely
> examine the license of KNEW-AM (910), the station that hosts
> O'Reilly's show nightly at 7 p.m.
>
htt> p://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2005/11/san_francisco_s_1.html
>

Nurse Jeff and I are sure the CC suits are taking this blogger seriously. We're not!
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> I doubt anything will happen, cc's lawyers will be all over
> this. Having said that, I do not like KNEW nor any host on
> this station. I haven't listened to KNEW since the 60's.
>

Even the most heinous remarks are protected from the FCC and the government´s interference. This is just posturing by the city. The FCC only regulates indecency, which has been upheld as a duty of government and not in contradiction with the First Amendment.

It is, though, a waste of taxpayers´ money. It demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the media, which is how they got themselves in this problem to begin with.
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> Even the most heinous remarks are protected from the FCC and
> the government´s interference. This is just posturing by the
> city. The FCC only regulates indecency, which has been
> upheld as a duty of government and not in contradiction with
> the First Amendment.
>
> It is, though, a waste of taxpayers´ money. It demonstrates
> a fundamental misunderstanding of the media, which is how
> they got themselves in this problem to begin with.

Very well put.

It's also the actions of those that can't handle a little sarcasm. For some reason those SAME people would be fine if Al Franken said "it's hay day on (insert extremely conservative city here)." As you asid, it's just posturing. They know nothing can be done.
 
So have the Frisco Supes passed a resolution
yet banning all mentions of "Christmas"?
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> > Even the most heinous remarks are protected from the FCC
> and
> > the government´s interference. This is just posturing by
> the
> > city. The FCC only regulates indecency, which has been
> > upheld as a duty of government and not in contradiction
> with
> > the First Amendment.
> >
> > It is, though, a waste of taxpayers´ money. It
> demonstrates
> > a fundamental misunderstanding of the media, which is how
> > they got themselves in this problem to begin with.
>
> Very well put.
>
> It's also the actions of those that can't handle a little
> sarcasm. For some reason those SAME people would be fine if
> Al Franken said "it's hay day on (insert extremely
> conservative city here)." As you asid, it's just posturing.
> They know nothing can be done.
>

Yup a bunch of politicians trying to make themselves feel more important than they really are. GOOD GRIEF.
 
Re: Freedom of expression

>
> Yup a bunch of politicians trying to make themselves feel
> more important than they really are. GOOD GRIEF.

But they are a pain in my a$$, way out here in Virginia's Shenandoah Valley. I was born and raised in Stockton, worked at KSTN, KJOY, KWG, and KWIN (back when KWIN's studios were in a mobile home trailer in Woodbridge)then moved to Vermont after an interlude in Canton, Ohio. I was recently transferred by the corporation I work for to Harrisonburg, VA. Everyone here knows I'm originally from California by way of Vermont, and I'm the demonized liberal. Oh, the amount of s#!t I get from people over what the SF Board of Stuporvisors does. For the record, O'Reilly and Bill Bennett can say whatever they want, just like Pat Robertson does. Doesn't mean I have to listen to it. But I DO have to listen to right-wing buttmunches that come rolling up on me and ask, "So what do you think about what your liberal buddies in San Francisco did this week?"
Look, I need a term. I need a word or phrase to describe whiny-a$$ crybaby liberals who pass stupid crap like the SF Measure H (although the resolution to restrict predatory recruiting in public schools was, in my view, commendable. So take that, Bildo.) and call a station's license into question over what a syndick talker sends over the Starguide. I need a way to differentiate them from people like me who are solidly and rationally on the left, as opposed to being our side's version of O'Reilly, or God help us, Ann Coulter.
Any suggestions?
 
Re: Freedom of expression

Absolutely. Beside, some people I've spoken with here in the City say that it's about time someone spoke up, most agree with O'Reilly, and I realize that in talking to a few people while going out my daty-to-day activities doesn't constitute a scientific survey, but I've got to wonder how the Frisco Supes get elected to begin with.
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> Absolutely. Beside, some people I've spoken with here in
> the City say that it's about time someone spoke up, most
> agree with O'Reilly, and I realize that in talking to a few
> people while going out my daty-to-day activities doesn't
> constitute a scientific survey, but I've got to wonder how
> the Frisco Supes get elected to begin with.
>


Lot's-o-sthuffing...in the ballot box, that is... Although, the people of San FranSicko can pass propositions that allow the blatant violation of the second amendment, let alone bar military recruitment (no recruitment could in a roundabout cause a draft), and who could forget the requirement for doghouses for EVERY dog in S.F. a while back.....

Unfortunately, this is the place that they have made for themselves, and IMHO, have really turned a beautiful, historic place into a debaucherous panhandling haven.

Heck, it's so out of touch it doesn't even have a country station!

Sorry for the tangent.

And yes, I'm probably part of that VAST right wing conspiracy.
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> > Maybe you can tell your friends in the Shenandoah Valley that many of us in San Francisco are also sick of the lefties on our Board of Supervisors. I consider myself a mainstream liberal, and I find myself wincing in pain everytime the Board makes pronouncements. At least you guys in Virginia don't have to hear it everytime Chris Daly opens his mouth. Daly loves to badmouth the SF Chronicle for opposing him, but that paper seems to hang on his every word...because it's always colorful, and it's news. You can also remind your friends that you grew up in Stockton, and California is now divided from north to south politically, with the liberals primarily along the coast. If the more populous coastal cities fell into the ocean, California would be more Republican than Vigininia by far. Didn't you guys just elect a (gasp!) Democrat for Governor? I'm not sure about Stockton specifically, but the San Joaquin Valley in general is strongly Republican and conservative. We stay with friends in the north Valley occasionally, and most people there consider Schwarzanegger a namby-pamby liberal.


> > Yup a bunch of politicians trying to make themselves feel
> > more important than they really are. GOOD GRIEF.
>
> But they are a pain in my a$$, way out here in Virginia's
> Shenandoah Valley. I was born and raised in Stockton, worked
> at KSTN, KJOY, KWG, and KWIN (back when KWIN's studios were
> in a mobile home trailer in Woodbridge)then moved to Vermont
> after an interlude in Canton, Ohio. I was recently
> transferred by the corporation I work for to Harrisonburg,
> VA. Everyone here knows I'm originally from California by
> way of Vermont, and I'm the demonized liberal. Oh, the
> amount of s#!t I get from people over what the SF Board of
> Stuporvisors does. For the record, O'Reilly and Bill Bennett
> can say whatever they want, just like Pat Robertson does.
> Doesn't mean I have to listen to it. But I DO have to listen
> to right-wing buttmunches that come rolling up on me and
> ask, "So what do you think about what your liberal buddies
> in San Francisco did this week?"
> Look, I need a term. I need a word or phrase to describe
> whiny-a$$ crybaby liberals who pass stupid crap like the SF
> Measure H (although the resolution to restrict predatory
> recruiting in public schools was, in my view, commendable.
> So take that, Bildo.) and call a station's license into
> question over what a syndick talker sends over the
> Starguide. I need a way to differentiate them from people
> like me who are solidly and rationally on the left, as
> opposed to being our side's version of O'Reilly, or God help
> us, Ann Coulter.
> Any suggestions?
>
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> Maybe you can tell your friends in the Shenandoah Valley...

...that this has ceased to be a discussion about radio and instead has become an indictment of the San Francisco City Council and a bunch of people posturing about their political beliefs.

Freedom of expression, yes. But this isn't the place for a political discussion.

DJ
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Re: Freedom of expression

> > Sorry...didn't mean to "posture." It just bugs me when people outside the Bay Area assume that a few extremists on the SF Board of Supervisors represent the views of most San Franciscans. Because it was one of those Supervisors who was trying to censor Bill O'Reilly whose show runs daily on KNEW 910 AM, some discussion of the politics is relevant. Politics pop up occasionally here, like the poster a few weeks ago who called Ronn Owens a "coward" for not owning up to his prior support for the Iraq war. I don't think you can divorce politics from discussions about talk radio. Regardless, I don't think there's any danger of this becoming a political blog.


Maybe you can tell your friends in the Shenandoah
> Valley...
>
> ...that this has ceased to be a discussion about radio and
> instead has become an indictment of the San Francisco City
> Council and a bunch of people posturing about their
> political beliefs.
>
> Freedom of expression, yes. But this isn't the place for a
> political discussion.
>
> DJ
>
 
Re: Freedom of expression

> I've got to wonder how the Frisco Supes get elected to begin with.

It's called "apathy." When regular folks bow out of the fight for whatever reason, the crazies take over.

- Doc
 
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