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Spectrum News reporter and photographer among those shot in a shooting spree in Pine Hills

In addition to talking about gun control, the real issue here is about career criminals on the street, the lack of working rehabilitation programs and prosecutors who release hardened criminals back onto the streets. Both subjects need to be discussed in tandem.

"At 19, he has a lengthy criminal history to include gun charges, aggravated battery and assault with a deadly weapon, burglary, and grand theft charges." FOX 35 is working to confirm additional details and gather additional information.

A search of online court records by FOX 35 News shows Moses was arrested in November 2021 on charges of possession of cannabis and drug paraphernalia. However, those charges were dropped the following month. It's unclear if Moses had a juvenile record, as those cases are not typically public."

(Source: Fox35 Orlando)
 
In addition to talking about gun control, the real issue here is about career criminals on the street, the lack of working rehabilitation programs and prosecutors who release hardened criminals back onto the streets. Both subjects need to be discussed in tandem.

That is not "the real" issue. I agree 100% that what you say about career criminals, catch and release policies, etc. being major problems but I disagree with your verbiage which seeks to downplay the issue of guns. If you want to prioritize them, the gun problem is still #1. Issues #2, 3 and 4 would not exist without it.
 
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That is not "the real" issue. I agree 100% that what you say about career criminals, catch and release policies, etc. being major problems but I disagree with your verbiage which seeks to downplay the issue of guns. If you want to prioritize them, the gun problem is still #1. Issues #2, 3 and 4 would not exist without it.
I believe that the two subjects have to be taken in tandem.

Why does Mexico have its huge cartel-based criminality issue?

Some say it is because the government is corrupt. Others say it is due to drug users in the US creating demand. But the reason the huge government-like gangs control vast areas of Mexico? In a great part it is due to the extreme difficulty in getting a gun for personal defense there... so hard that there is just one legal gun store and the restrictions are very severe.

So the cartels bought illegal guns from other countries. They needed so many, that they built their own weapons factories and behave like militias in much of the nation. Those who are threatened can't resist, and are killed or suppressed.

I've lived in places where only the criminals and an under-financed police force have guns. You can't go out at night to a movie, you can't consider having a weekend getaway in a rural area. Farmers pay a "tithe" to the gangs, and freedom is restricted.

So I think the subject of weapon ownership as well as "bandits and badmen" both have to be discussed. Unfortunately, we have Foxpundits (neologism of mine) who think we should be allowed to own artillery pieces and machine guns.
 
I believe that the two subjects have to be taken in tandem.

I agree, I just couldn't stand to let that previous remark hang out there as phrased above, as if guns aren't a real issue. So I'm happy it's clarified and I'm going to bow out now since no one is going to win a gun debate on a radio forum, and there's not much more i can say about the tragedy with this reporter and the others, SMH.
 
I agree, I just couldn't stand to let that previous remark hang out there as phrased above, as if guns aren't a real issue. So I'm happy it's clarified and I'm going to bow out now since no one is going to win a gun debate on a radio forum, and there's not much more i can say about the tragedy with this reporter and the others, SMH.
The problem on radio and TV is that there are vocal anti-gun pundits and excessive pro-let's-buy-a-tank commentators and no middle ground of safe but regulated gun ownership proponents. Not everyone should own a gun, and those that do... like driver licenses... should have to re-qualify regularly. Is that so hard for the two extremes to accept? And why are no media commentators espousing that position?
 
The problem on radio and TV is that there are vocal anti-gun pundits and excessive pro-let's-buy-a-tank commentators and no middle ground of safe but regulated gun ownership proponents. Not everyone should own a gun, and those that do... like driver licenses... should have to re-qualify regularly. Is that so hard for the two extremes to accept? And why are no media commentators espousing that position?

But if you listen carefully, most of the "anti-gun" pundits on radio and TV ARE actually advocating for exactly what you say -- safe but regulated gun ownership. I can't name a single commentator, even on the most liberal outlet, who is calling for an extreme gun ban. What I hear them say every time is that military-style assault rifles should be banned, background checks should be strengthened and gun-buying loopholes should be closed. And then the conservative outlets paint those ideas as being extreme.

So you tell me, are there really two extremes on radio & TV, or have conservatives simply been successful at making people believe there are?
 
The problem on radio and TV is that there are vocal anti-gun pundits and excessive pro-let's-buy-a-tank commentators and no middle ground of safe but regulated gun ownership proponents. Not everyone should own a gun, and those that do... like driver licenses... should have to re-qualify regularly. Is that so hard for the two extremes to accept? And why are no media commentators espousing that position?
It's not just media commentators. It's insane MAGA legislators. They really do want unlimited guns for every man, woman and child in all places at all times with no restrictions whatsoever. The way my state is trying to "nullify".federal laws, I imagine at some point we will have no federal background checks. Our legislature is voting on unlimited guns on college campuses, and lowering the permitless carry age to 18. Missouri just voted down a bill to ban teenagers from carrying. MAGAs tell me that gun owners are either a) perfectly patriotic, law-abiding citizens or (black) criminals. Then the news is filled with road rage shootings, domestic violence shootings (my state now passes bills that say domestic abusers can have guns). The mass shooters are white guys. They say unlimited guns protects from tyranny. What about the tyranny of knowing you could be shot going to the store, a concert, a sports event or any public area. So I'm at a restaurant and I'm supposed to assume a guy with an AR15 strapped to him is just showing off, instead of having his last meal before he goes on a rampage. If Marjorie Taylor Greene ever gets her separate nation (being echoed in the public airwaves by Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity), I guess we all carry guns at all times (I have several reasons for not wanting to own a gun; knowing I can be careless and very occasional suicide ideation). But if I have to live in the Wild West to own the libs........
 
Wasn't it already against the law for him to have a handgun? Americans with money are fleeing the big cities and driving up housing prices in safe small towns.
 
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