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SPENCER HUGHES READS FROM CHAIRMAN KARL ROVE'S LITTLE RED BOOK

APPLAUSE !!!!!! (no-text)

> > spencer hughes is now and will always be a second
> stringer.
> > he is just another run of the mill right wing nut hater.
> the
> > small caps are done as a favor to your mental health.
>
> You seem to think that little shot A) upsets me or B)
> invalidates my message to you. You miss the point.
>
> We could give a flying fig if Spencer was the greatest or
> worst host on talk radio. I like the guy personally (as a
> friend) and don't always agree with whatever he does on the
> air. I haven't heard him on the air at any length in about
> 3 years.
>
> The problem is, once again, that you apparently are obsessed
> with him, his show, and feel the need to vent about it,
> instead of, well, turning elsewhere. It'd be just as
> off-putting if I did NOT know the host in question.
>
> YOU MISS THE POINT.
>
> In afternoons in this region, there's a buffoonish clown who
> hosts the only afternoon drive time talk show on a station
> in his top-30 market. The lack of substantive content on
> his show bothers me, and his personality is not nearly my
> cup of tea, but I DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. And even though he's
> basically the only option for talk radio in that part of the
> market in afternoon drive (we have a local host down here),
> I don't feel the need to crusade on his every breath.
>
> For your information, here are, courtesy of the program
> schedules of various Boston market news/talk/sports radio
> stations, your other options on Sunday afternoon in
> Spencer's time slot:
>
> WBZ/1030:
> http://wbz1030.com/programs/
> 5:00 AM - 7:00 PM All News, traffic on the 3's, weather on
> the 10's
>
> OK, so not a lot of TSL in an all news format, but
> dependable - well, maybe not for you, considering some of
> your other rants.
>
> WTKK/96.9:
> http://www.wtkk.com/programs.asp
> 1:00PM 4:00PM Handel On The Law with Bill Handel
>
> Not straight ahead political talk, but Handel's usually good
> for entertainment on this show.
>
> WEEI/850:
> http://www.weei.com/programlineup.asp
>
> Oops...it appears blank right now. I'd assume it'd be a Red
> Sox game most Sundays, or related sports talk programming.
>
> WKOX/1200-WXKS/1430:
> http://www.wkoxam.com/program_lineup.html
> 1 pm - 2 pm - Mother Jones
> 2 pm - 3 pm - “Politically Direct” w/ David Bender
> 3 pm - 5 pm (Rebroadcast) - “Ring of Fire” w/ Mike
> Papantonio & Robert Kennedy Jr.
>
> Since you've made a few "right wing" comments on this
> thread, maybe "Boston's Progressive Talk" is more your
> speed, and would give you less indigestion between 1 and 4
> PM. And it looks like the 2 PM show may even be local, as
> I've never heard of the guy...
>
> That's just a start. If you continue to rant on about a
> talk show host who you feel compelled to listen to, but
> hate, I'll go through the music stations' and the public
> stations' schedules, as your radio appears to be lacking a
> properly working tuning control.
>
> -OA
>
 
Pommes de terre sont bon! -- J. Kerry

> > The Moderators suggested recently that when we respond we
> > change the subject line to follow the direction of the
> > thread. If you have a complaint please take it up with the


By saying it in French he avoids the trap of being asked to
spell "potato".

This thread has departed so far from having anything to do with
radio that this extra little nudge can't make it much worse.

But just in case anybody's really sensitive....how does one
tell some of the omni-present critics of Boston radio from
vegetables when they are unable to turn their radios off or
switch to some more agreeable station? And what vegetable
has teeth to grind or fingers to type?

Amazing, but it would seem it's possible!

<P ID="signature">______________
God save us from those who would save us from ourselves! P-l-e-a-s-e!!!!!</P>
 
I Take Two Hours of WJIB AM 740 For Immediate Relief and No Prescription Needed

while i appreciate your concern, i am quite capabable of making my own choices. i am just ANNOYED that the state of talk radio and radio in general in this city has fallen so low. the lowest common demoninator rules and i will fight that lack of broadcast ethics with every key stroke i can.

One need not go too far up the dial to find a station with ethics and standing who will not fold to the prevailing standards. It is Bob Bittner's WJIB 740 AM Stereo. And you know WJIB shows up in the ratings each quarter even though that is not Bittner's goal. That says something about his standards and that we can ' keep hope alive'.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > spencer hughes is now and will always be a second
> stringer.
> > he is just another run of the mill right wing nut hater.
> the
> > small caps are done as a favor to your mental health.
>
> You seem to think that little shot A) upsets me or B)
> invalidates my message to you. You miss the point.
>
> We could give a flying fig if Spencer was the greatest or
> worst host on talk radio. I like the guy personally (as a
> friend) and don't always agree with whatever he does on the
> air. I haven't heard him on the air at any length in about
> 3 years.
>
> The problem is, once again, that you apparently are obsessed
> with him, his show, and feel the need to vent about it,
> instead of, well, turning elsewhere. It'd be just as
> off-putting if I did NOT know the host in question.
>
> YOU MISS THE POINT.
>
> In afternoons in this region, there's a buffoonish clown who
> hosts the only afternoon drive time talk show on a station
> in his top-30 market. The lack of substantive content on
> his show bothers me, and his personality is not nearly my
> cup of tea, but I DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. And even though he's
> basically the only option for talk radio in that part of the
> market in afternoon drive (we have a local host down here),
> I don't feel the need to crusade on his every breath.
>
> For your information, here are, courtesy of the program
> schedules of various Boston market news/talk/sports radio
> stations, your other options on Sunday afternoon in
> Spencer's time slot:
>
> WBZ/1030:
> http://wbz1030.com/programs/
> 5:00 AM - 7:00 PM All News, traffic on the 3's, weather on
> the 10's
>
> OK, so not a lot of TSL in an all news format, but
> dependable - well, maybe not for you, considering some of
> your other rants.
>
> WTKK/96.9:
> http://www.wtkk.com/programs.asp
> 1:00PM 4:00PM Handel On The Law with Bill Handel
>
> Not straight ahead political talk, but Handel's usually good
> for entertainment on this show.
>
> WEEI/850:
> http://www.weei.com/programlineup.asp
>
> Oops...it appears blank right now. I'd assume it'd be a Red
> Sox game most Sundays, or related sports talk programming.
>
> WKOX/1200-WXKS/1430:
> http://www.wkoxam.com/program_lineup.html
> 1 pm - 2 pm - Mother Jones
> 2 pm - 3 pm - “Politically Direct” w/ David Bender
> 3 pm - 5 pm (Rebroadcast) - “Ring of Fire” w/ Mike
> Papantonio & Robert Kennedy Jr.
>
> Since you've made a few "right wing" comments on this
> thread, maybe "Boston's Progressive Talk" is more your
> speed, and would give you less indigestion between 1 and 4
> PM. And it looks like the 2 PM show may even be local, as
> I've never heard of the guy...
>
> That's just a start. If you continue to rant on about a
> talk show host who you feel compelled to listen to, but
> hate, I'll go through the music stations' and the public
> stations' schedules, as your radio appears to be lacking a
> properly working tuning control.
>
> -OA
>
 
Keyboard Warriors

> while i appreciate your concern, i am quite capabable of
> making my own choices. i am just ANNOYED that the state of
> talk radio and radio in general in this city has fallen so
> low. the lowest common demoninator rules and i will fight
> that lack of broadcast ethics with every key stroke i can.

Well, ranting about it (and one particular part-time host) on a radio message board gets you nothing. I *hate* "keyboard warriors". "I'm fighting with every keystroke!" No, you're sitting in your basement brushing pizza crumbs off your keyboard. If you're really, really that upset about it, you get your tail out from in front of the keyboard and you DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT in the real world.

You're a former talk radio producer, if I remember your resume right. Have you been ostracized from the stations in the Boston radio market? Or do you have a chance of approaching WRKO's NEW management and programming management? Remember, the station now has a new GM and a new PD (the latter - ex-WBZ ND/PD Brian Whittemore). Have you tried suggesting alternative programming to the new WRKO management? Maybe they'll come in, figure out they can't stand Spencer, and dump him, making your month.

Again, you're not fighting for anything posting on a message board. You're... well...posting on a message board. It means about as much as if you typed it into your word processor, printed it out and put it up on your refrigerator.

> One need not go too far up the dial to find a station with
> ethics and standing who will not fold to the prevailing
> standards. It is Bob Bittner's WJIB 740 AM Stereo. And you
> know WJIB shows up in the ratings each quarter even though
> that is not Bittner's goal. That says something about his
> standards and that we can ' keep hope alive'.

Good for you. Mr. Bittner is one of my favorite small station broadcasters, and it's great that WJIB shows up in the ratings...it apparently fills a need among some Boston market listeners.

I strongly suggest that you keep your blood pressure down, and tune your dial to WJIB/740 each and every Sunday afternoon from 1 to 4 PM.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: Parklane's Indigestion, And How To Cure It

> YOU MISS THE POINT.
>
> In afternoons in this region, there's a buffoonish clown who
> hosts the only afternoon drive time talk show on a station
> in his top-30 market. The lack of substantive content on
> his show bothers me

Isn't 'RKO doing well in afternoons with HC? (ratings-wise).
Better than in mornings. Some people like el bastardo gordo.
I do.


>
> -OA
> <P ID="signature">______________
News and views about Boston and New England Radio:

http://www.livejournal.com/community/boston_radio</P>
 
Re: Parklane's Indigestion, And How To Cure It

You should get paid for putting together such a comprehensive schedule! Need some webspace? <P ID="signature">______________



</P>
 
Firefox Extension

> Anyone have a Firefox extension that will make parklane's
> messages vanish without showing up on the message list? I'm
> serious about this. I'm sick of his ranting and raving, and
> just not clicking on the message isn't enough...it doesn't
> avoid his inflammatory ALL CAPS subject headers, which can't
> be avoided.

An extension called Greasemonkey can do it with the right script, but I'm not sure how to do it. Ah what I could have learned if not for cocaine.
 
Re: Keyboard Warriors

I keep my pressure down by annoying you.... ;-) Just kidding.
Thanks for the approach to RKO's new management.


> > while i appreciate your concern, i am quite capabable of
> > making my own choices. i am just ANNOYED that the state of
>
> > talk radio and radio in general in this city has fallen so
>
> > low. the lowest common demoninator rules and i will fight
> > that lack of broadcast ethics with every key stroke i can.
>
>
> Well, ranting about it (and one particular part-time host)
> on a radio message board gets you nothing. I *hate*
> "keyboard warriors". "I'm fighting with every keystroke!"
> No, you're sitting in your basement brushing pizza crumbs
> off your keyboard. If you're really, really that upset
> about it, you get your tail out from in front of the
> keyboard and you DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT in the real world.
>
> You're a former talk radio producer, if I remember your
> resume right. Have you been ostracized from the stations in
> the Boston radio market? Or do you have a chance of
> approaching WRKO's NEW management and programming
> management? Remember, the station now has a new GM and a
> new PD (the latter - ex-WBZ ND/PD Brian Whittemore). Have
> you tried suggesting alternative programming to the new WRKO
> management? Maybe they'll come in, figure out they can't
> stand Spencer, and dump him, making your month.
>
> Again, you're not fighting for anything posting on a message
> board. You're... well...posting on a message board. It
> means about as much as if you typed it into your word
> processor, printed it out and put it up on your
> refrigerator.
>
> > One need not go too far up the dial to find a station with
>
> > ethics and standing who will not fold to the prevailing
> > standards. It is Bob Bittner's WJIB 740 AM Stereo. And you
>
> > know WJIB shows up in the ratings each quarter even though
>
> > that is not Bittner's goal. That says something about his
> > standards and that we can ' keep hope alive'.
>
> Good for you. Mr. Bittner is one of my favorite small
> station broadcasters, and it's great that WJIB shows up in
> the ratings...it apparently fills a need among some Boston
> market listeners.
>
> I strongly suggest that you keep your blood pressure down,
> and tune your dial to WJIB/740 each and every Sunday
> afternoon from 1 to 4 PM.
>
> -OA
>
 
Re: Firefox Extension

Gee,,,,,,,,,, would that work to get rid of Spencer Hughes.....?????


> > Anyone have a Firefox extension that will make parklane's
> > messages vanish without showing up on the message list?
> I'm
> > serious about this. I'm sick of his ranting and raving,
> and
> > just not clicking on the message isn't enough...it doesn't
>
> > avoid his inflammatory ALL CAPS subject headers, which
> can't
> > be avoided.
>
> An extension called Greasemonkey can do it with the right
> script, but I'm not sure how to do it. Ah what I could have
> learned if not for cocaine.
>
 
Re: Firefox Extension

> Gee,,,,,,,,,, would that work to get rid of Spencer
> Hughes.....?????

Wouldn't help your cause a bit.

What would help would be for all the free publicity he's getting
through negative posts to just go away. Then fewer people might
be tempted to listen to see what's so offensive to one whose
tuning knob is broken and who has no other radio to listen to.
Please post his schedule so those of us contacted by Arbitron
can lie and say we're listening to him just to tick you off!<P ID="signature">______________
I once took something seriously.
And was accused of shoplifting.</P>
 
Re: Please..enough is enough...

Parklane is right. Sure he sounds like a broken record, but so do the individuals he is critiquing.

Spencer Hughes is as far away from jerry williams as you can get. Hughes doesn't have any nose for news, no skills as a reporter. He just does the watered down Sean Hannity - and it is getting as tired as Parklane's incessant posts. I happen to agree with Parklane, but wish he would find a new topic other than RKO and BZ. There's lots of radio out there to bash. None of it is any good. Why fixate on a failed institution like WRKO?


> I am getting carpal tunnel with having to use my mouse to
> bypass
> these posts.
>
> > No real surprise but second stringer, Spencer Hughes, on
> > WRKO Sunday is reading from Chairman Karl Rove's "Little
> Red
> > Book" - Hurricane's Katrina is according to Hughes is all
> > the black looters fault.
> >
> > All this diversion will not work this time.
> >
>
 
Re: Parklane's Indigestion, And How To Cure It

> Isn't 'RKO doing well in afternoons with HC? (ratings-wise).
> Better than in mornings. Some people like el bastardo gordo.
> I do.

My apologies, sir...I wasn't talking about Boston, I was talking about Cleveland, the top-30 market nearest to the Ohio Media Watch World Headquarters (see the link to the Mighty Blog of Fun[tm] below :) )...

The "buffoon" is not WRKO's Howie Carr, but WTAM/1100 afternoon motormouth Mike Trivisonno.

I occasionally keep track of a few other markets' boards, mostly markets I've worked in...and as mentioned, I worked in another market with Spencer a few years back.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: Keyboard Warriors

> I keep my pressure down by annoying you.... ;-) Just
> kidding.
> Thanks for the approach to RKO's new management.

And seriously, I hope you consider it, assuming you do have the experience in this business that I believe you have.

Be proactive, not reactive. Ranting on a message board about a part-time host that is generally heard three hours a week on Sundays is not really "doing anything". Suggesting programming ideas to new management is.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: Parklane's Indigestion, And How To Cure It

> You should get paid for putting together such a
> comprehensive schedule! Need some webspace?

Hah! :D

Actually, the schedules were copied/pasted directly from the radio stations' own websites. And I did not realize that the "Politically Direct" show on WKOX/WXKS was indeed an Air America offering...they must have recently added the show.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Response to Old Akronite: Suspicious

Old Akronite,

Though Parklane's way of sending the message is a bit rough,
he is not off base. RKO is one of the bigger signals in Boston.
By default it gets on presets. We are used to hearing Virgin Boy,
and at least can put up with his buffoonery, it is somewhat
entertaining.

Spencer Hughes and Todd Feinberg seem to be the two biggest offenders
that the "I hate WRKO" crowd fixate on - for good reason - they are
just absolutely untalented. They will not find a market, they will
not break out and be the "next Rush" or the "next Howard Stern".

Spencer may be your friend, and hopefully, he's a good
friend. But that doesn't give him on-air talent.

We tune in to hear something - when many in Boston hear Spencer
or Todd, they tune out.

And they bitch here. Because it gets a message out to RKO.

Jay Diamond is much more fun -not only because he's progressive,
but because he has his facts down and doesn't pontificate the
way Huges does.

Anyway, looks like Kahn and Whittemore are going to whittle away at the excess at RKO

my two cents.




> > I made an effort to see what Hughes was ranting about.
> Tuned
> > out after a few minutes. He was predictable and therefore
> as
> > far as I am concerned BORING.
> > I was just waiting for the Red Sox game to start.
>
> Why do you continue to endure Spencer's show, if it's so
> predictable? There are what, roughly 50 other stations you
> may be able to pick up from the Boston metropolitan area? I
> hear a rumor that there are even other talk stations serving
> the market, including stations such as WBZ, WTKK, and
> liberal talk on WKOX/WXKS. That doesn't even count what's
> on public radio outlets!
>
> And there are a myriad of other options, if you're in the
> mood for music.
>
> No, you're apparently in the mood to listen to a show and
> host you despise, and bitch about it on these boards.
>
> Anyone have a Firefox extension that will make parklane's
> messages vanish without showing up on the message list? I'm
> serious about this. I'm sick of his ranting and raving, and
> just not clicking on the message isn't enough...it doesn't
> avoid his inflammatory ALL CAPS subject headers, which can't
> be avoided. But Spencer's show CAN be avoided - simply do
> not tune to 680 AM when he is on the air. And if he's
> filling in other time slots, there's something called a
> "tuning control"...USE IT.
>
> Before you point it out, I will perform full disclosure
> here, and note that Spencer is a very good friend, and
> former co-worker of mine in another market. I've never made
> a secret of that.
>
> I've also mentioned that he and I may not see eye to eye on
> his show's content, or his own firmly held political views
> (which are real, and are not an act...he goes on about this
> stuff after the microphone is off, he believes what he
> says). But that doesn't stop him from being a good friend,
> and he doesn't pick his friends by their political
> persuasion or beliefs.
>
> -OA
>
 
The Hughes Track Record

> No real surprise but second stringer, Spencer Hughes, on
> WRKO Sunday is reading from Chairman Karl Rove's "Little Red
> Book" - Hurricane's Katrina is according to Hughes is all
> the black looters fault.
>
> All this diversion will not work this time.
>
How does Hughes get talk radio work? How many times do you get to bomb before somebody notices a pattern? How does getting canned in Santa Rosa mean you should work in Boston?
 
Getting The Message Out

> Spencer may be your friend, and hopefully, he's a good
> friend. But that doesn't give him on-air talent.

I respect your opinions. It's not the opinion I'm upset with.

When I worked with him, he was one of the brightest young talk radio talents I knew. I can see how his style could not be agreeable to some, and I don't really know what he sounds like now. I do happen to know and like the guy, and I've made a point to note that he DOES believe what he says on the air. I've had many conversations with him off the air where he keeps going about a topic he brought up, and said, "can you believe this?" He's not acting.

> And they bitch here. Because it gets a message out to RKO.

Now, there's where I part with you. How does bitching on a radio insider/fan message board get "a message out to RKO"? Does the station's management read here? Do they consider what's posted here representative of the community? Does any radio station's management program the station by Internet message boards?

Of course, they don't.

The only way to "get a message out to RKO" is to call or write them. I won't go look for the number or address...they are likely readily available on the station's website or in the Boston phone book.

And we're getting back to the "keyboard warrior" thing I wrote a while back. You're not "getting a message out" here on this board, you're posting next to your emptied pizza box in the basement. (And this comes from a guy who's posted a few thousand messages!)

And really, in the end, all that matters is this: WRKO's management looks at the ratings on Sunday afternoons, and sees if listeners are staying or going from 1-4 PM. That's all.

None of this is controlled by the fact I know Spencer. It's radio reality, my friend.

> Anyway, looks like Kahn and Whittemore are going to whittle
> away at the excess at RKO

Whether it affects the weekend host lineup or not, it'll be interesting to see how they reshape the station.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: The Hughes Track Record

> How does Hughes get talk radio work? How many times do you
> get to bomb before somebody notices a pattern? How does
> getting canned in Santa Rosa mean you should work in Boston?

Let me correct a fact or two here:

It's my understanding that the station in Santa Rosa let him go because they were looking to move away from political talk, particularly of the national variety. A quick look at the web page of the host who basically replaced him would tend to support that...

<a target="_blank" href=http://www.ksro.com/shows/smothersshow.shtml>http://www.ksro.com/shows/smothersshow.shtml</a>

Spencer was on in afternoon drive, and that slot is now once again occupied by former PM drive host Pat Thurston...the host above is the "new" host who took the midday slot Pat returned to before moving back.

KSRO is an unusual station, and is more attuned to the market it's in. You'll notice on their schedule that they do not have ONE national conservative talk host on their schedule, which has shows like Dr. Joy Browne and Clark Howard. What Spencer does is mostly out of sync with that.

Fact correction #2: Spencer's been doing the WRKO show simultaneously with the KSRO show for some time. Over a year and a half, if I'm remembering right.

This'll be my last message on the thread.

As I said, and will summarize, I'm not saying that everyone should love him and think he's great...my biggest beef here was simply one or two people who seem to swarm around his show and listen, then bitch about it, every single week. It'd be just as annoying if it was a host I did NOT know personally.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: The Hughes Track Record

Ho hum. What's the sound of one hand clapping? Old Akronite defending Spencer Hughes. Yawwwwn.

> Fact correction #2: Spencer's been doing the WRKO show
> simultaneously with the KSRO show for some time. Over a
> year and a half, if I'm remembering right.
>
> This'll be my last message on the thread.
>
> As I said, and will summarize, I'm not saying that everyone
> should love him and think he's great...my biggest beef here
> was simply one or two people who seem to swarm around his
> show and listen, then bitch about it, every single week.
> It'd be just as annoying if it was a host I did NOT know
> personally.
>
> -OA
>
 
Re: Suspicious

hahaha..i thought i was the only one that took a stand and told someone to move on...thank god others have seen the light.
 
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