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Sunny, KISS, MIX, and Nashville will have commercials.

> Thanks clear channel..
http://www.orb> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
http://ww> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
Are they going back to simulcasting the actual FM signals? Ryan Seacrest joining the XM family is he?
 
That's definitely a drag...I subscribed to XM in late May of 2004, so I think I got lucky and missed commercials on the music channels...Hopefully, they won't be 10-15 minute breaks like on our local stations...Even the commercial breaks on High Voltage are getting longer than necessary, in my opinion...Especially since you often hear the same commercial and/or XM promo two or three times in a break.

But hey, I'd never seen the site referenced in this post, so cool to have another source for XM news that maybe doesn't get posted at xmradio.com.

I'd like to say the commercials won't affect me, but I do listen to Nashville, and Mix on occasion, so yes, it is going to stink.

> Thanks clear channel..
http://www.orb> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
http://ww> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
 
> > Thanks clear channel..
> http://www.orb>
> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
> >
> http://ww>
> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
> >
> Are they going back to simulcasting the actual FM signals?
> Ryan Seacrest joining the XM family is he?
>
So when XM-KISS will have commercials will it be the real KIIS-FM 102.7?? LA #1 Hit Music Channel? With Ryan Seacrest and Weekends with Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 Countdown??
 
> Thanks clear channel..
http://www.orb> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
http://ww> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>


Evidently xm doesn't understand the reasoning behind people paying for satellite radio. If there are going to be commericals, why not listen to radio over the air, which we already get for free?






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There'll be no radio in Heaven.
Will you be there?
www.PassTheWord.net
 
> > > Thanks clear channel..
> > http://www.orb>
> >
> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
> >
> > >
> > http://ww>
> >
> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
> >
> > >
> > Are they going back to simulcasting the actual FM signals?
>
> > Ryan Seacrest joining the XM family is he?
> >
> So when XM-KISS will have commercials will it be the real
> KIIS-FM 102.7?? LA #1 Hit Music Channel? With Ryan Seacrest
> and Weekends with Rick Dees Weekly Top 40 Countdown??
>
I believe I just asked that question. Anyway, there hasn'r been a Rick Dees weekly Top 40 anywhere for over a year now. Rick has gone reggeton. His new sunday show just started on Latino 96.3 here in L.A. and will soon be syndicated. Seacrest has Dees' Top 40 show now.
 
>Thanks clear channel..
>http://www.orb> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>http://ww> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html

This was inevitable in its survival. Even VH1-Classic plays commercials now (it didn't when it started...and starting to play bad programming anyway).
 
> Seacrest has Dees' Top 40 show now.

Dees still does his own thing, albeit syndicated. Seacrest took over for Casey Kasem.
 
> So when XM-KISS will have commercials will it be the real
> KIIS-FM 102.7?? LA #1 Hit Music Channel?

Do people realize there's more than one KISS FM? They're all over the country.
 
> > Seacrest has Dees' Top 40 show now.
>
> Dees still does his own thing, albeit syndicated. Seacrest
> took over for Casey Kasem.
>
When will KISS-XM 21 will begin to be KISS-FM 102.7 with commericals and Ryan Seacreast in the morining??
 
Here's what went down, according to the SEC filings...

> Evidently xm doesn't understand the reasoning behind people
> paying for satellite radio. If there are going to be
> commericals, why not listen to radio over the air, which we
> already get for free?

It boils down to this:

Clear Channel invested in XM. It got a certain chunk of bandwith and they'd split the revenue.

Clear Channel hedged its investment by selling its shares to Bear Sterns, with payments through something like 2008 or 2009. XM responded by taking the Clear Channel stations off and kicking CC's representative off the board of directors.

Clear Channel sues. It goes to arbitration.

XM wins the part about the board of directors (Clear Channel still has no seat) but loses the part about sharing the revenue off of the channels. So XM has to give Clear Channel its channels back, allow them to sell advertising, and pay them what they would have earned over the time they didn't have control.

It's not like XM wants to do this. It royally screws them.<P ID="signature">______________
...co-moderator of the Satellite Radio, Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, and San Diego boards...</P>
 
From FMQB:

Over the next few months, as ads launch on those four Clear Channel-controlled channels, XM will add four new commercial-free music channels, in an attempt to offset the change and ensure that subscribers will see no reduction in the total number of commercial-free music channels. “We are firmly committed to maintaining commercial-free all the music channels XM itself creates,” Brown added.

Sounds like they're trying to get the upper hand...

> > > Seacrest has Dees' Top 40 show now.
> >
> > Dees still does his own thing, albeit syndicated.
> Seacrest
> > took over for Casey Kasem.
> >
> When will KISS-XM 21 will begin to be KISS-FM 102.7 with
> commericals and Ryan Seacreast in the morining??
>
 
> When will KISS-XM 21 will begin to be KISS-FM 102.7 with
> commericals and Ryan Seacreast in the morining??

Quite possibly never. I haven't seen any evidence that terrestrial stations will resume broadcasting on XM channels. Everything I've seen thus far states Clear Channel XM stations will begin adding commercials. It says nothing about KIIS, or any other channel, airing on XM. From everything I've heard, a lot of the ad agencies and unions don't like their spots simulcasting on radio and satellite anymore than they like them appearing on the internet. That's apparently some of why WSM created its own channel on Sirius instead of the simulcast of 650 that was previously there.
 
in the beginning some stations had commercials. they were so short noone even noticed they existed!! 2 :30 second spots per hour..wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy less than the horrible fm band!! i would still pay for it if thats all it was!! but i dont listen to those four stations anyway!!










> > Thanks clear channel..
> http://www.orb>
> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
> >
> http://ww>
> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>

>
> Evidently xm doesn't understand the reasoning behind people
> paying for satellite radio. If there are going to be
> commericals, why not listen to radio over the air, which we
> already get for free?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *************************************************
>
> There'll be no radio in Heaven.
> Will you be there?
> www.PassTheWord.net
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
 
> From FMQB:
>
> Over the next few months, as ads launch on those four Clear
> Channel-controlled channels, XM will add four new
> commercial-free music channels, in an attempt to offset the
> change and ensure that subscribers will see no reduction in
> the total number of commercial-free music channels. “We are
> firmly committed to maintaining commercial-free all the
> music channels XM itself creates,” Brown added.
>

>

Any Chance one of these would be a Top 40/ CHR channel done right? I mean with personality. Any word on what the channels will be?
 
> in the beginning some stations had commercials. they were so
> short noone even noticed they existed!! 2 :30 second spots
> per hour..wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy less than the horrible fm band!!
> i would still pay for it if thats all it was!! but i dont
> listen to those four stations anyway!!

Except for one station: XM's simulcast of KIIS LA. The *humongous* stopsets were covered by Clear Channel with _looooong_ ads for various CC CHR and/or CHR/Rhythmic stations all over the country. (I hate to think that the simulcast might come back - I prefer the new "KISS XM - Hits of the 21st Century")
 
So Clear Channel will poison Sunny 24 with commercials and XM will add 4 stations (probably all rock or urban) supposedly to make up for the four lost to CC. Can bet that none of those 4 will replace the "loss" of Sunny 24's unblemished current format. I can hear it now, get in a good mellow mood from Sunny only to have some raucous ad blaring rap or rock to sell some useless product. I bought XM for Sunny 24 alone, so this means a lot to me. If I wanted rock and commercials, I'd stick to FM -- plenty of it there. Clear Channel was a major player in the ruining of FM, now they are trying to F* satellite as well.

I wish Directv hadnt switched from MusicChoice, as MC had a nice easy listening channel. I guess I'll have to make CDs off DMX (ku band FSS, service, 39" sat dish) for listening to anything E-Z in the truck. Thank God for DMX and for the cable companies that carry MusicChoice.

On the bright side, maybe God allows Clear Channel to exist to prove to us there is a Hell and a Satan; as something as evil as CC could not have been conjured up anyplace other than Hell.





> Thanks clear channel..
http://www.orb> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
http://ww> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
 
There's probably some sort of legal/contractual reason for it, but...Since most of us who listen to XM's music channels listen for the variety and the fact there are no commercials, why not just drop the CC-run channels, change their names, and put your own programming staff in place to run them. Nashville would be easy; have the guy who runs America and Highway 16 run that...And I'm sure Kiss, Mix, and Sunny could continue their current musical formats even with a name-change...Cut Clear Channel out of the picture, and run without commercials.

Like I said, there's probably a legal/contractual reason, but it seems logical to just cut CC out completely and have XM program the channels with their own staff.

> So Clear Channel will poison Sunny 24 with commercials and
> XM will add 4 stations (probably all rock or urban)
> supposedly to make up for the four lost to CC. Can bet that
> none of those 4 will replace the "loss" of Sunny 24's
> unblemished current format. I can hear it now, get in a
> good mellow mood from Sunny only to have some raucous ad
> blaring rap or rock to sell some useless product. I bought
> XM for Sunny 24 alone, so this means a lot to me. If I
> wanted rock and commercials, I'd stick to FM -- plenty of it
> there. Clear Channel was a major player in the ruining of
> FM, now they are trying to F* satellite as well.
>
> I wish Directv hadnt switched from MusicChoice, as MC had a
> nice easy listening channel. I guess I'll have to make CDs
> off DMX (ku band FSS, service, 39" sat dish) for listening
> to anything E-Z in the truck. Thank God for DMX and for the
> cable companies that carry MusicChoice.
>
> On the bright side, maybe God allows Clear Channel to exist
> to prove to us there is a Hell and a Satan; as something as
> evil as CC could not have been conjured up anyplace other
> than Hell.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks clear channel..
> http://www.orb>
> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
> >
> http://ww>
> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
> >
>
 
Re: Here's what went down, according to the SEC filings...

Ah...That answers my post from a few minutes ago...So it Personally, I'm beginning to think CC actually enjoys being one of the most hated entities in America.

is a legal issue.> It boils down to this:
>
> Clear Channel invested in XM. It got a certain chunk of
> bandwith and they'd split the revenue.
>
> Clear Channel hedged its investment by selling its shares to
> Bear Sterns, with payments through something like 2008 or
> 2009. XM responded by taking the Clear Channel stations off
> and kicking CC's representative off the board of directors.
>
> Clear Channel sues. It goes to arbitration.
>
> XM wins the part about the board of directors (Clear Channel
> still has no seat) but loses the part about sharing the
> revenue off of the channels. So XM has to give Clear
> Channel its channels back, allow them to sell advertising,
> and pay them what they would have earned over the time they
> didn't have control.
>
> It's not like XM wants to do this. It royally screws them.
>
 
If this becomes really bad they could always pay Clear Channel off and program there own Happy or Cheery or whatever themselves.

---------------------
> So Clear Channel will poison Sunny 24 with commercials and
> XM will add 4 stations (probably all rock or urban)
> supposedly to make up for the four lost to CC. Can bet that
> none of those 4 will replace the "loss" of Sunny 24's
> unblemished current format. I can hear it now, get in a
> good mellow mood from Sunny only to have some raucous ad
> blaring rap or rock to sell some useless product. I bought
> XM for Sunny 24 alone, so this means a lot to me. If I
> wanted rock and commercials, I'd stick to FM -- plenty of it
> there. Clear Channel was a major player in the ruining of
> FM, now they are trying to F* satellite as well.
>
> I wish Directv hadnt switched from MusicChoice, as MC had a
> nice easy listening channel. I guess I'll have to make CDs
> off DMX (ku band FSS, service, 39" sat dish) for listening
> to anything E-Z in the truck. Thank God for DMX and for the
> cable companies that carry MusicChoice.
>
> On the bright side, maybe God allows Clear Channel to exist
> to prove to us there is a Hell and a Satan; as something as
> evil as CC could not have been conjured up anyplace other
> than Hell.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks clear channel..
> http://www.orb>
> itcast.com/archives/xm-100-commercialfree-music-no-more.html
>
> >
> http://ww>
> w.orbitcast.com/archives/more-info-on-xm-music-channels.html
>
> >
>
 
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