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taking AM/FM radio out of cars in 5 years or so,could it really happen ???

alok said:

That isn't entirely true, per an email direct from Eric Rhoads:

"My Editorial about AM/FM removal from cars has caused great concern in the radio industry. My mistake is that I put something in quotes from my recollections of the panel and the discussions afterward and my quote was inaccurate."

The full story can be found at www.radioink.com.
 
its already starting thanks to having apps and such built into the car.
 
I have been suggesting for years that for safety purposes involving natural and artificial disasters, all cars should be able to receive the seven NOAA channels. They have a single purpose, are just as reliable as broadcasters, and cost a lot less to operate.
Someone should start a technical thread on for what kind of communications services the AM & FM broadcast bands could best be used.
 
Even though the story was retracted, I couldn't see that happen anyway.

There STILL is a purpose for AM/FM radio in autos, regardless of whatever format. I can see streaming added in cars as a "standard" as an option (no different than cars that are capable of receiving Sirius/XM) on a monthly subscription via a phone carrier based on bandwidth. But for those that don't want to pay that, they still can have AM/FM in there.
 
Tony Santiago said:
Even though the story was retracted, I couldn't see that happen anyway.
Agreed, the story was not supposed to have been let out for at least another few months!
 
Jody Applegate who's filling in for John Gambling on WOR (and doing a good job, BTW) admitted this morning that she doesn't own a radio! She consumes her "audio content" on the Web. She's not alone.

We're already in the midst of a paradigm shift, and TR's replacement has yet to fully materialize! Some folks are saying terrestrial radio will reign supreme for another twenty years ... I'd give it five.
 
I think that, fairly soon, a radio will no longer be part of STANDARD equipment in a vehicle. You will have a choice of various entertainment packages, some containing a radio, some with 'net access, some with both.
 
HHH said:
I think that, fairly soon, a radio will no longer be part of STANDARD equipment in a vehicle. You will have a choice of various entertainment packages, some containing a radio, some with 'net access, some with both.

Frankly, I don't see what other form of entertainment/information is feasible in a vehicle - from the driver's point of view. We already have multiple forms of audio and video available as well as mobile devices plus the many distractions of the vehicle dash itself. If this proliferation of distractions continue the Feds will undoubtedly begin regulating what the driver can see/hear beyond what is already mandated.

Radio, real or via non-terrestrial means, remains one of the only forms that can be enjoyed while primarily engaged in another (and more important) purpose.
 
Go to a sporting event, or other large gathering and attempt to download anything on a phone/mobile internet connection. There's your answer as to why it won't be a permanent fix in the next 10 years. I don't care if it's 3G, 4G or 7G, each cell only has so much physical bandwidth it can deal with.

Radio is point to multi-point. Bandwidth is the same for 10, 100 or 1,000,000 listeners. IP is point to point, each listener eats up bandwidth. Also, with the new non-unlimited data plans, people aren't going to want to use up all of their monthly data listening to the radio.

Sometimes on long trips I'll stream either a radio station or some archived audio to listen to. It's not quite there yet. The buffering and dropouts are very frustrating to deal with.
 
Why change something that's been in place and working for decades??? Not gonna happen anytime soon.

If it's not broken, why fix it?? Internet radio and MP3 adaptors should be alternatives, but not standard.
 
WNTIRadio said:
Go to a sporting event, or other large gathering and attempt to download anything on a phone/mobile internet connection. There's your answer as to why it won't be a permanent fix in the next 10 years. I don't care if it's 3G, 4G or 7G, each cell only has so much physical bandwidth it can deal with.

Radio is point to multi-point. Bandwidth is the same for 10, 100 or 1,000,000 listeners. IP is point to point, each listener eats up bandwidth. Also, with the new non-unlimited data plans, people aren't going to want to use up all of their monthly data listening to the radio.

Sometimes on long trips I'll stream either a radio station or some archived audio to listen to. It's not quite there yet. The buffering and dropouts are very frustrating to deal with.

That's why I use the wifi hotspots provided by the cable companies. Not many cable customers know about it. I have that advantage in my region.
 
d21ofnj said:
That's why I use the wifi hotspots provided by the cable companies.Not many cable customers know about it. I have that advantage in my region.
Tell us about them, because...
"Enquiring minds want to know."
 
Not going to happen, for several reasons. First, as mentioned, the connections aren't great. Secondly, people don't want to pay additional service. People have enough bills. Lastly, where do you think the content from apps like iHeartRadio come from? It is just streams from REAL radio. Sounds like some sort of con/scheme for broadcasters to squeeze some money out of everybody and make free radio go away. Shame on them.
 
No car radio (AM, FM, www, HD, FUAR) will NOT happen. Too many transmitters and signals. Instant live and everywhere. Oyher channels can come in BUT, radio is number one and only. Lots of clueless out there. Too bad because we grew up on radio with great DJs and newsfolk setting the stage. We're all still "out there".....and that's a good thing. 1010 wins...wins, new york...1 0 5 0.... WABeatleC Chime Time....11 3 0 on your radio, WNEW, New York. It's all here, Good Guys...just grow back balls and update.
 
cs1366 said:
No car radio (AM, FM, www, HD, FUAR) will NOT happen. Too many transmitters and signals. Instant live and everywhere. Oyher channels can come in BUT, radio is number one and only. Lots of clueless out there. Too bad because we grew up on radio with great DJs and newsfolk setting the stage. We're all still "out there".....and that's a good thing. 1010 wins...wins, new york...1 0 5 0.... WABeatleC Chime Time....11 3 0 on your radio, WNEW, New York. It's all here, Good Guys...just grow back balls and update.

And I thought I was the only R/D member who could sing that old WINS jingle!
 
Macker said:
Secondly, people don't want to pay additional service. People have enough bills.

Really? I happen to be with you -- I refuse to pay for any entertainment I can get for free. But "people" have no problem opening their wallets for pricey sports and concert tickets, $100+/mo cell phone contracts, etc.

I believe terrestrial radio has a well deserved bad rep due to the way it's been programmed over the past few decades. Listeners are rejecting it. Technology just needs to catch up.
 
wadio said:
Macker said:
Secondly, people don't want to pay additional service. People have enough bills.

Really? I happen to be with you -- I refuse to pay for any entertainment I can get for free. But "people" have no problem opening their wallets for pricey sports and concert tickets, $100+/mo cell phone contracts, etc.

I believe terrestrial radio has a well deserved bad rep due to the way it's been programmed over the past few decades. Listeners are rejecting it. Technology just needs to catch up.

I wouldn't equate paying for radio with sports tickets. Sure, they're both entertainment, but I don't see the correlation. People pay for cellphones because you pretty much have to have one in today's age and it's 100+/mo because of not much competition, it's very monopolistic. The big radio companies would love to position themselves similarly in their industry.
I think the programming needs to be better. More local and engaging with good personalities, enough of the corporate jukebox stuff. If its a good product ie good personality, people will listen and advertisers will spend. In most of the US, I don't think people are rejecting radio if its programmed well. There are good personalities all over in small markets across the US that rake I'm advertising money and have lots of talent. Technology doesn't need to catch up, programming does.
 
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