Talk veteran David Gold- KLIF Dallas- subbing in Tampa

[Don62]

David Gold was on the air today on WWBA-1040 in Tampa as a fill-in after the previous host, Brian Fasulo, left for another job.

This was a treat for me because Gold - from the "Land of Gold" - along with Kevin McCarthy ( a more liberal or center host) - was long a staple on KLIF in Dallas when that station was a real talk radio station- not a primary repeater of syndicated shows.

I used to catch Gold's show during the late '80s.

Gold says he was the first original Tampa conservative radio host, from 1980-1983, on 570 AM.
Then he went to Miami. Then Dallas. Then to LA. Gold did his Tampa show today from his Dalllas home.

www.goldtalk.com is his site.

 

[Don62]

Here's a pic and a bio of Gold.

http://www.wbap.com/showdj.asp?DJID=28370

 

[Don62]

Did anyone hear his show today? 1040wwba.com streams its audio.

I'm not a promoter of his or any other host.
I'm hardly aligned with his political views but I really enjoyed hearing the great David Gold again.

The last I heard him on the air was in the late '80s in Dallas when Gold ruled that market's talk radio before KLIF went mostly syndicated.

I may be disappointed as I experienced something similar with another great host who I had heard in the past and then heard again nationally.

When Ken Hamblin, the Black Avenger, had his KOA-Denver show, he was more of a liberal.
Years later I caught his KNUS-Denver show on CSPAN where he was much more conservative. What a striking contrast.

Then I heard his national syndicated show which did okay, but should have had many more affiliates.
Ken Hamblin didn't have the enthusiasm or spontonaity he had in local Denver talk radio, in my opinion.
I still like Ken, though.

More info on the great Ken Hamblin can be found at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Hamblin

 

[Don62]

I'm surprised there aren't more posts on this thread.
David Gold was BIG in Dallas. He practically made KLIF - the city's first major talk radio station (KRLD was all-news) - a big success.

Gold also worked in Tampa, Miami and Denver alongside the likes of talk radio legends Alan Berg and Ken Hamblin- the Black Avenger.

 

[VOXPOP]

David Gold was doing conservative talk radio before talk radio was cool. He, McCarthy and Norm Hitzges (the godfather of sports talk) were a triple threat that made KLIF one of THE top talk stations of the 90s. Tampa is in for a treat if he ends up full-time there.

 

[Radio_Realist]

I'm surprised there aren't more posts on this thread.

Why? It's about some local yokel who wasn't good enough to make it to syndicate so he's still stuck in the minor leagues doing local radio. I'll bet the folks in Tampa are thrilled to hear his stories about Dallas.

BTW, none of the stations from Tampa reach up to where I live. I can't pick up any of them on my radio.

 

[TheSpinMan]

Insulting stupidity appeals to a limited, and now shrinking demographic. If you think you can grow an audience with that drivel, good luck. Talk radio now has to compete with the Internet, which allows a much more open forum for the free exchange of ideas. The future belongs to the Hugh Hewitts and William Bennets of the world, intelligent discourse with respectful exchange of viewpoints such as Hewitt's excellent debate this week between Hutchins and a religious figure (whose name escapes me), on Evolution, one of the most engaging things I've heard on radio for some time. Gold represents a bygone age, when minor talents could get big exposure by aping Limbaugh. Gold missed the boat, he had a chance to remake himself at BAP and blew it, he was the same old nasty jerk. Local nasty-jerk talkers are now looking for work all over the country. Good riddance, they have become excruciatingly boring, like this thread.

 

[smedge2006]

Gold was pre-Limbaugh, his talk career began in 1976 and he was name-calling with the best of them when Limbaugh was still with the KC Royals. I'll believe Hewitts and Bennetts are the future when they start getting RATINGS (and when Bennett sounds more awake).

 

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[Don62]

Gold represents a bygone age, when minor talents could get big exposure by aping Limbaugh. Gold missed the boat, he had a chance to remake himself at BAP and blew it, he was the same old nasty jerk. Local nasty-jerk talkers are now looking for work all over the country. Good riddance, they have become excruciatingly boring, like this thread.

Sounds like you have your facts wrong, again.
Gold preceded Limbaugh. He was conservative before Limbo popularized it naturally.
Did you not listen to talk radio in Dallas back then?

 

[Radio_Realist]

Gold preceded Limbaugh.

Regardless of when he started, Gold wasn't good enough to make the jump to the major leagues of syndication. He remained at the level where his talent took him, which was no higher than being a local host.

 

[Don62]

Regardless of when he started, Gold wasn't good enough to make the jump to the major leagues of syndication. He remained at the level where his talent took him, which was no higher than being a local host.

That's your opinion.
There may have been many reasons why a host didn't go syndicated. There weren't as many syndicated networks then. He may not wanted to have relocated from Dallas, etc.

I'd like to know where your program airs and how many stations its on.

Or how many hosts you manage.

Reading your posts, you obviously haven't heard many local talk show hosts or seem to care, since you think they can't possibly have anything to say any different than the mouthpieces for Bush fed to stations by automation.

 

[Radio_Realist]

There may have been many reasons why a host didn't go syndicated. There weren't as many syndicated networks then. He may not wanted to have relocated from Dallas, etc.

Regardless of the reason, he didn't make it to the majors, did he?

you obviously haven't heard many local talk show hosts or seem to care,

I don't listen to local talk show hosts in cities where I don't live, as I don't much care about the local issues affecting the people who live in places where I don't live. A discussion of a bond issue in West Smallville, Idaho just doesn't excite me very much. And, my radio doesn't pick up stations from far away very well.

 

[Don62]

I don't listen to local talk show hosts in cities where I don't live, as I don't much care about the local issues affecting the people who live in places where I don't live. A discussion of a bond issue in West Smallville, Idaho just doesn't excite me very much. And, my radio doesn't pick up stations from far away very well.

Wow. You're a veteran talk radio listener. I think you have a skewered idea of real talk radio and what it's about. It isn't about some city bond issue or an upcoming gun and knife issue.

Those type of issues don't surface in local talk radio in the medium and bigger markets. I'm not talking about some station in Macon, Ga., or Flagstaff, Az.

I erred here assuming PDs and others in the industry had actually heard local hosts such as those who were/are on great talk stations such as KOA, WGN, WLS, KFI, WBAP, KLIF (1980s, 1990s), KCMO (1980s-90s), KMOX, WOR, etc. I assume the PDs and whiners on this board, if they are in the business, only know talk radio via Rush or Beck.

A good host can even make a mundane topic interesting.

Hosts like Bob Lassiter, when I heard him on WLS, rarely discussed local matters. His show focused on politics and other things.

One afternoon host I heard the other day in Miami ( not WIOD- which does next to nothing local ) while on a business trip last week after I got my rental car talked mostly about immigration.
Others discuss other national issues, along with pressing regional and local issues.

The morning drive host at the liberal talk station, WINZ 940, discussed some local issue regarding airport runway expansion or something and had intelligent things to say along with the great callers. It was hardly boring.

Hardly more uninteresting then Boortz discussing what he did over the weekend with his call screener or Hannity plugging his evening TV show. Or matters of only concern inside the host's studio, which many hosts often dwell on.

I guess the owners of this industry have practically ruined talk radio by driving away real talent and filling their dayparts with piped in shows. It's like comparing a real DJ such as Wolfman Jack or Casey Kasem or Rick Dees to a bland satellite music program network. There's a world of difference.

 

[JbeJay]

Hosts like Bob Lassiter, when I heard him on WLS, rarely discussed local matters.

Then what, pray tell, was the advantage of his being local at all?

 

[Don62]

Hosts like Bob Lassiter, when I heard him on WLS, rarely discussed local matters.

Then what, pray tell, was the advantage of his being local at all?

Let me see.. this is a radio board? I have to explain the importance of localism and programming to a city or community?

Gee. I didn't realize this industry was so automated and robotic and to hell with workers or listeners.

 

[JbeJay]

Hosts like Bob Lassiter, when I heard him on WLS, rarely discussed local matters.

Then what, pray tell, was the advantage of his being local at all?

Let me see.. this is a radio board? I have to explain the importance of localism and programming to a city or community?

It was a simple question, Don. If he didn't cover local issues, why was it so great that this transplant sat in a local studio? He could just as well have been piped in from 1000 miles away.

Basically, you have contradicted your fundamental point, haven't you? Someone who isn't from the market but moves to the market and does a show from the market but "rarely" covers issues which are specific to the market. That's local? That's better for the local listeners?

 

[Faraway]

One afternoon host I heard the other day in Miami ( not WIOD- which does next to nothing local ) while on a business trip last week after I got my rental car talked mostly about immigration. Others discuss other national issues, along with pressing regional and local issues. The morning drive host at the liberal talk station, WINZ 940, discussed some local issue regarding airport runway expansion or something and had intelligent things to say along with the great callers. It was hardly boring.

On Friday, I heard Schnitt talking about the Ft Lauderdale woman who had been dragged to death in a road rage incident. I hear him talk about local Miami things quite frequently. Remember, he started his afternoon show on Miami only, and added Tampa later. As for 940 WINZ, with a LOCAL show...it's owned by...oh my gosh...Clear Channel! A LOCAL talk host who is NOT a neo-con. On WIOD's 50,000 watt sister station. How can that be? Sort of blows a bunch of your theories, huh Don?

 

[Don62]

On Friday, I heard Schnitt talking about the Ft Lauderdale woman who had been dragged to death in a road rage incident. I hear him talk about local Miami things quite frequently. Remember, he started his afternoon show on Miami only, and added Tampa later. As for 940 WINZ, with a LOCAL show...it's owned by...oh my gosh...Clear Channel! A LOCAL talk host who is NOT a neo-con. On WIOD's 50,000 watt sister station. How can that be? Sort of blows a bunch of your theories, huh Don?

Okay. I'll take your point on Schnitt. I have heard him. He does a good job.

Re: my 940 example, that's a morning show. I was complementing the station. Can't you read?

The station doesn't have any other local daytime shows. Just like Cheap Channel's poverty-ridden status and inability to afford hosts.

Interestingly, CC monopolizes the Miami talk radio market.
It owns 610, 940 and 1290 as well as some FMs.
All of those stations are filled with cheap primarily outsourced shows.
Couldn't CC find room for at least one local host on one of those, like WIOD?

 

[Faraway]

Yes, Don, I know you were being complimentary although in a backhanded sort of way...for the liberal format, not sure who of the national shows I'd want to knock off...Miller, Rhodes (who may be nationally syndicated but I think everyone on this board knows her ties to Miami are extreme), Schultz...they all are pretty darn good...is CC being lazy and cheap by not replacing them with a local show, or are they being smart?

Like I've said before...and now that I have your attention....

1) syndication is not necessarily the cheapest way, especially for stations in larger markets
2) CC has plenty of large market n/t's with mulitple live and local hosts...stations with more syndication than others are due to local market conditions, not a corp mandate...and this would be the case with stations, no matter who owes them
3) a smart programmer will program what wins, not getting hung up on whether something is localy produced or syndicated.