TBS and TNT Show End Credits and Next Show or Movie

[radiolives]

Not sure if anyone has said anything about the way TBS and TNT when they start the next show or movie. They start it with the credits from the last show still airing and placing the next show or movie in a small box until the credits for the last show are done. Does anyone like this? To me I would like to see the show from the start without being in a small box with the last shows credits still going. It kind of feels like this is a way for the two networks to place more commericals.

 

[MarcB]

They've been doing this for a while. I first noticed it during a Monday Night Family Guy airing a year or so ago.

 

[KML0224]

Geez! I missed THAT? Lucky me! That sounds awful!

 

[BRNout]

TBS also has started superimposing a shrunken-down version of end credits over the last scene of FG before doing the aforementioned squeeze. Anything to slip in a few extra ads and promos. Honestly, regular TV is rapidly becoming the equivalent of a diseased website - full of annoying pop-up ads.

Yet another bad, bad trend that highlights the greed which may someday doom commercial television as we know it.

 

[nuzguy]

Add to squeezing the credits the fact that they are run much too fast to read and we have the inescapable jamming of yet one more commercial into the program. The golden goose is about to croak.

 

[radiolives]

At least USA, Spike TV, FX to name a few don't do this. Sure they may push the credits to the side or bottom of screen like CBS, NBC, ABC, and FOX do. That is fine by me. Its fine to see a promo for the next show or promo for a new show.

 

[BlueWanderer]

..... Honestly, regular TV is rapidly becoming the equivalent of a diseased website - full of annoying pop-up ads.

I agree with you on that 100%. Just about the only place on basic cable that I know of where you don't have to put up with such annoyance is during Cartoon Network's adult swim broadcast.

I often wonder how long will it stay that way. Usually after adult swim is over, CN goes back to acting just like every other channel with the pop-up ads. I suppose I should be glad that they are keeping adult swim free from the pop-ups, just like the way tv used to be.

 

[DaleGriffin]

Why is this bad? How many people sit there and read the credits?

 

[MarkL]

They want you to keep watching, that's why they start the next show while the credits are still rolling.

I wouldn't be surprised if other networks followed... TBS/TNT were the first to place an ad for another show on the screen during the entire program... now NBC, ABC, and several of the other cable networks now do it quite often.

 

[radiolives]

They want you to keep watching, that's why they start the next show while the credits are still rolling.

I wouldn't be surprised if other networks followed... TBS/TNT were the first to place an ad for another show on the screen during the entire program... now NBC, ABC, and several of the other cable networks now do it quite often.

Now you mean ad like the pop up things you see when they come back from a commerical or the text that stays their for the entire show?

If its the text that stays their for the entire show, I think FX started that. Also I notice that TNT and TBS stopped using it. But Lifetime Movie Network is starting to use it now which is a huge one.

 

[sack]

Why even bother running the credits? They cut minutes of content out of programs without any concern, why not edit out that one part of the program no one watches (unless your name is there).

Between time compression, editing scenes, promo bugs popping up,,,, are the shows just in the way of the commercials?

 

[MarkL]

They want you to keep watching, that's why they start the next show while the credits are still rolling.

I wouldn't be surprised if other networks followed... TBS/TNT were the first to place an ad for another show on the screen during the entire program... now NBC, ABC, and several of the other cable networks now do it quite often.

Now you mean ad like the pop up things you see when they come back from a commerical or the text that stays their for the entire show?

If its the text that stays their for the entire show, I think FX started that. Also I notice that TNT and TBS stopped using it. But Lifetime Movie Network is starting to use it now which is a huge one.

The text that stays there for the entire show. I'm pretty sure it was TNT/TBS that did it first, but they only do it when they have new original programming that night. Some of the networks keep it on all the time.

And yeah, I saw the one on LMN today, and it went half-way up the TV screen on the right... crazy.

 

[azumanga]

Why even bother running the credits?

Apparently, the contracts say that they must display the credits. Apparently, how small or thin or fast is up to the network.

 

[ixnay]

Why even bother running the credits? They cut minutes of content out of programs without any concern, why not edit out that one part of the program no one watches (unless your name is there).

Well, that would, in some cases, eliminate some great closing shots ("The Flintstones" and "The Jetsons" come to mind, although I don't know what BOOM has done to those [I can't afford BOOM]).

Between time compression, editing scenes, promo bugs popping up,,,, are the shows just in the way of the commercials?

Probably. ;D It would probably take a constitutional amendment to rectify/eliminate all that.

ixnay

 

[nickelodeonfan97]

Well, that would, in some cases, eliminate some great closing shots ("The Flintstones" and "The Jetsons" come to mind, although I don't know what BOOM has done to those [I can't afford BOOM]).

Boomerang shows no commercials (other than their own bumpers and CN promos), no split screen credits or squashed credits, and no pop-ups.

 

[ixnay]

Boomerang shows ... no split screen credits or squashed credits ... .

Well then, thanks, Boomerang, for having a sense of history!

Also, I've noticed Univision doesn't split or squash credits on their telenovelas. Nor does UNIV use popups.

Univision and Galavision (and I assume, also, Telefutura, which I can't get), OTOH, on their Mexican soccer telecasts, show popups for upcoming UNIV, GALA, and Telefutura soccer telecasts.

ixnay

 

[N_D_Radioguy]

Contractual language guarantees the credits will run any time the program is shown; it's tied into the union contracts for IBEW, SAG, Stagehand & Craftworkers, etc.

Shrinking them and speeding them up are relatively new developments but they are still technically runnning the complete credits.

The shrunken "Family Guy" credits aren't much different than what Fox does with them during the original airings.

Thanks to IMDB and the Internet, fewer and fewer people actually read the credits -- or need to -- when a program airs.

If you really want to know who the Gaffer or "Third Man from Left" was in a particular show you just watched, it's just easier to go online and read the creds at your own speed.

 

[Don62]

Why is this bad? How many people sit there and read the credits?

You'd sure feel a little different, Dale, if someone had to slow down the credits on a DVR frame by frame to see your screenwriting or producing credit.

Just another way to diss the talent.

 

[TexasTom]

Contractual language guarantees the credits will run any time the program is shown; it's tied into the union contracts for IBEW, SAG, Stagehand & Craftworkers, etc.

Apparently, the rules governing the showing of the closing credits have changed over the years -- at least as it relates to the reruns that show on local broadcast stations (as opposed to national broadcast or cable networks). It used to be the case that the closing credits would routinely be clipped during local syndicated reruns, back in the days when stations also did additional editing of the syndication prints (said editing was usually poorly done) in order to slip some extra commercials in. Then, when you got to the closing credits sequence, they'd fade out halfway through, and right into additional commercials or a station ID.

In the eighties, syndicators started offering syndication versions of shows that were already pre-edited for additional commercials -- and at that point, the "film editing" department disappeared from most local stations. Around that same time (or maybe a few years later), the practice of clipping the closing credits also seemed to go away.

Nowadays, even when the programs aren't pre-edited for additional commercials, the stations still don't clip the credits. Several years back, "McHale's Navy" was running on KFWD/52 here in Dallas/Fort Worth -- no additional editing, credits ran in full without clipping, split-screen, or voice overs. Seeing a program that way again served as a reminder of how annoying all of these practices really are...

It may be that the stations were never supposed to clip the credits, but the rule was just not enforced until after the eighties, but that's just a guess on my part.

 

[YEKIMI]

The WORST for chopping shows up has to be ION television. I watched "Alice" a few times and cannot believe how bad it is edited. Have one of the characters says a line and BOOM right to commercial, don't wait for the laugh or anything. Sometimes they're fading out to the spot even before the line is finished. They came back from a commercial and the characters are talking about something that happened and I didn't even remember anything resembling what they were talking about prior to the commercial...so they must have chopped out a pretty good segment of the show. If ION can't do editing right, they may as well go back to showing their colon-blow infomercials along with all the other ones they run. I'd like to take some of that make up junk they sell, use it to shine up that Shark steam mop and shove it up that bald guy's backside till the steam is puffing out his ears and then beat Billy Mays to death with a Swivel Sweeper!