The CW Opts Not To Renew Affiliation Deals With Scripps-Owned Stations In Seven Markets

[Loganfly]

If there's ever a CW affiliate in Detroit, it will either be on a subchannel of WDIV or on WDWO-CD. Same with Miami where it will be on a subchannel of WSVN or on W16CC-D. Nexstar isn't gonna waste even more of their money by starting up new TV stations in those mentioned markets

 

[DarrenVision]

If there's ever a CW affiliate in Detroit, it will either be on a subchannel of WDIV or on WDWO-CD. Same with Miami where it will be on a subchannel of WSVN or on W16CC-D. Nexstar isn't gonna waste even more of their money by starting up new TV stations in those mentioned markets

or other certain cases Graham buys WADL in the Detroit maket to supplement WDIV, and in case of Miami either Sunbeam or Warren Buffett buys either WSFL, WBFS, or the TBN station locally. Also I could look at Norfolk with WSKY or the TBN station bought by either Tegna or Sinclair in case of Nexstar is unable to make carriage deals for a subchannels.

 

[Rusty Muck]

If there's ever a CW affiliate in Detroit, it will either be on a subchannel of WDIV or on WDWO-CD. Same with Miami where it will be on a subchannel of WSVN or on W16CC-D.

Why would either WDIV or WSVN sink any money into launching subchannels where they have to purchase 22 hours of programming (in a market where syndicated programming barely exists) just to carry a forgettable two-hour primetime block? And there IS ZERO chance the CW winds up on dumping grounds like WDWO-CD or W16CC-D.

Nexstar isn't gonna waste even more of their money by starting up new TV stations in those mentioned markets

And why would Graham and Sunbeam be forced to do the same? Innovate Corp. certainly won't!

 

[Loganfly]

Why would either WDIV or WSVN sink any money into launching subchannels where they have to purchase 22 hours of programming (in a market where syndicated programming barely exists) just to carry a forgettable two-hour primetime block?

Because if WDIV or WSVN agreed to Nexstar to put CW on a subchannel (which they will most likely will say no), you know they will either spent more money on syndicated shows (which in those markets there's barely any available syndicated programming that other stations haven't taken) or they choose an already existing subchannel to fill the time (which is similar to how Seattle got CW after CBS got rid of them from their stations, and before Sinclair moved the CW affiliation to KUNS)

And there IS ZERO chance the CW winds up on dumping grounds like WDWO-CD or W16CC-D.

Well, if WDIV and WSVN said no to CW, it's either those stations or nothing at all. (Most likely the latter)

 

[`aaaronagmfo]

CW now has WWE NXT, ACC, and NASCAR Xfinity Series, Ion has WNBA and NWSL, also there's some news producing CW stations like KTLA, KRON, WPIX, WCCB, and WISH (WGN might return at some point with KUSI might join soon). So basically it was Scripps now focusing the Big 4 stations (with bigger sports rights), Ion and independents. WSFL was then under Tribune Media, Sinclair attempted to buy Tribune Media and Fox offered to buy some of the Sinclair and Tribune stations including WSFL. Miami might be a critical find compare that to Detroit after they moved from WKBD to WADL to WMYD and probably WADL? Wait till the guys from Tegna, Gray, Hearst, or Sinclair might claw in to buy more stations especially if Nexstar want to sell some stations in order to take control of WPIX.

KUSI WAS A CW AFFILIATE AT ONE TIME

 

[itsTheRolyPoly]

KUSI WAS A CW AFFILIATE AT ONE TIME

Except it never has. It was a UPN affiliate at one time.

 

[Rusty Muck]

Because if WDIV or WSVN agreed to Nexstar to put CW on a subchannel (which they will most likely will say no), you know they will either spent more money on syndicated shows (which in those markets there's barely any available syndicated programming that other stations haven't taken) or they choose an already existing subchannel to fill the time (which is similar to how Seattle got CW after CBS got rid of them from their stations, and before Sinclair moved the CW affiliation to KUNS)

What shows are available??? Have you even seen the lineups for WADL, WMYD and WKBD and realized how barren they are?!

Plus Sunbeam is not a company known for spending any money on syndicated programming. It is absurd to think they will magically spend money like that.

Well, if WDIV and WSVN said no to CW, it's either those stations or nothing at all. (Most likely the latter)

WDWO-CD and W16CC-D are low-power stations which means cable companies can refuse to carry them at will. Nevermind the sheer absurdity of a company known for station IDs made out of freaking PowerPoint spending any money on a netlet like the freaking CW.

 

[Loganfly]

What shows are available??? Have you even seen the lineups for WADL, WMYD and WKBD and realized how barren they are?!

I looked up the schedules of WADL, WMYD, WKBD, and after reading those, WADL is most likely the most barren out of all of them (like, who would watch Byron Allen shows in 2024). WMYD has a medicore lineup, and WKBD, although having shows that some people like, but they put them at odd times (Pictured there is a listing of an rerun of a Seinfeld episode on WKBD at around 2:30 in the morning).
As for the available shows, one example (although it is upcoming) is Judy Justice, which it will launch in syndication at Fall 2024. It will most likely not show up on the CW subchannel (if there's even one) since other stations in the Detroit market will most likely take it.

Plus Sunbeam is not a company known for spending any money on syndicated programming. It is absurd to think they will magically spend money like that.

I agreed with that statement. If WSVN does get CW (which it wouldn't happen), Sunbeam will basically flood non-CW shows on News and it will get more views than CW itself

WDWO-CD and W16CC-D are low-power stations which means cable companies can refuse to carry them at will. Nevermind the sheer absurdity of a company known for station IDs made out of freaking PowerPoint spending any money on a netlet like the freaking CW.

Well, at least we have WPXD.. oh wait. It's owned by Inyo. What about WHPS-CD? Nope, they will refuse.

 

[DarrenVision]

Why would either WDIV or WSVN sink any money into launching subchannels where they have to purchase 22 hours of programming (in a market where syndicated programming barely exists) just to carry a forgettable two-hour primetime block? And there IS ZERO chance the CW winds up on dumping grounds like WDWO-CD or W16CC-D.

Obiously your the among the few who doesnt like the CW and your just being obssessed on selling stations to religious groups. Again I'm still not a fool even if someone puts a laughing emoji and I sure that duopoly and consolidation forces in the streaming era will work plus there's still many people who want NXT & The ACC and that will pressure to get a new affiliate that is full power and a must carry.

And why would Graham and Sunbeam be forced to do the same? Innovate Corp. certainly won't!

Look they can make a duopoly since Graham and Sunbeam are much smaller, added to the fact that Sinclair and Nexstar are selling some stations so the consolidation dynamics will play out and Nexstar is not giving up on the CW.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

KUSI WAS A CW AFFILIATE AT ONE TIME

Nexstar Media Group, parent company of FOX 5, closes acquisition of KUSI

Nexstar Media Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: NXST), Friday announced that it has closed its acquisition of the assets of KUSI-TV in San Diego from McKinnon Broadcasting Company and Channel 51 of San Diego

fox5sandiego.com

That's not correct Nexstar bought KUSI in 2023. Yes this took place when Paramount ended their affiliation deal with the CW when the CW aired LIV golf and Paramount had to end the affiliation because CW airing sports violated the CBS Sports contract with the PGA. This is also the time when Paramount had to remove the KBCW-TV call letters in San Francisco and rename it KPYX-TV/KPIX+ as part of the agreement for Nexstar owned KRON to get the CW affiliation.

 

[coxchantal8]

Prior to drop the CW late last year, WKBD was one of 8 stations owned by Paramount Global didn't allow to carried LIV Golf due to PGA's deal with CBS Sports that caused violation to carried LIV Golf coverage. No stations that owned by Paramount Global got fined for carried LIV Golf as of last year.

 

[`aaaronagmfo]

I KNOW KATC IN LAFAYETT WITCH IS 3.2 GOING TO BE AN INDEPENDENT STATION COME SEPTEMBER 1, 2024

 

[Loganfly]

Predicting that Santa Barbara's new CW affiliate will either be on a subchannel of KCOY or KEYT

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

Obiously your the among the few who doesnt like the CW and your just being obssessed on selling stations to religious groups.

The “few” who don’t like it? Does that count the millions who don’t know or care that it exists? (You’re)

plus there's still many people who want NXT & The ACC and that will pressure to get a new affiliate that is full power and a must carry.

There’s not. Really.

Look they can make a duopoly since Graham and Sunbeam are much smaller, added to the fact that Sinclair and Nexstar are selling some stations so the consolidation dynamics will play out and Nexstar is not giving up on the CW.

Um, sure…..

 

[DarrenVision]

Predicting that Santa Barbara's new CW affiliate will either be on a subchannel of KCOY or KEYT

Or the Univision or the former Telemundo station (KCOY picked up Telemundo after the CBS affiliation merged with KEYT including the news operation). BTW when did KCOY shut its news operation and merged into KEYT?

 

[tripinva]

Man, this thread is like a being in an institution. So much made up wish-casting. So little factual thinking.

- Trip

 

[K.M. Richards]

Man, this thread is like a being in an institution. So much made up wish-casting. So little factual thinking.

You're right about that, Trip, and the "wishcasters" are ignoring Lance's warnings that such postings are about to become grounds for dismissal.

 

[AbrahamJSimpson]

It’s like fan fiction run amok. We could all invent fanciful hypotheticals, and heck, some might at least have a tenuous link to reality. But some of what we see in these conversations is just out there.

 

[Rusty Muck]

You're right about that, Trip, and the "wishcasters" are ignoring Lance's warnings that such postings are about to become grounds for dismissal.

I just want September 1 to come already so this thread can be mercifully be retired.

 

[K.M. Richards]

It’s like fan fiction run amok. We could all invent fanciful hypotheticals, and heck, some might at least have a tenuous link to reality. But some of what we see in these conversations is just out there.

If that was to become something Lance would tolerate (and, as I alluded to previously, the wishcasters are about to get a rude awakening, methinks), I could post my own version of what should have happened at the ill-fated KKOG-TV/16 in my hometown of Ventura CA back in 1968-69.

After all, I was there. For the whole nine months. And I do have a record of what did happen.