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The Doghouse with JV and Elvis WFNY 92.3 Free Fm

Best on radio today/ let's not go off the deep end!. It is very A.D.D, sounds as though they do no prep and wing a lot of it,BUT they do have moments where they're pretty funny. That is good enough, we dont have to go nuts and procliam it the best show on radio, that is not too realistic!>
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Tony9000 said:


A lot of talk about JV and Elvis and the new shows at WFNY.....What will help the ratings....Fall 06 just went down. What will help this station? If I was PD I would move Jv And Elvis to a Drive time. I know O & A have mornings, but hwat have then done for the station? They do not care at all. The Radio Chick, who those numbers really suck. What to do, What to do.........Jv and Elvis have a following that is growing all the time.....Drive time for me.
 
Didn't you hear about who we just hired for the midday slot starting on January 2nd. May be bad news for DH who had another poor trend. All's quiet in house.
 
Sell the numbers said:
Didn't you hear about who we just hired for the midday slot starting on January 2nd. May be bad news for DH who had another poor trend. All's quiet in house.

Why is it that you find a need to lie all over these boards. The Dog house had good numbers, best increase. Ron and Fez were hired for 6pm-9m. You need to post better lies, [EDIT]



[EDIT-inflammatory]
 
Well then....as little as I know right now is certainly a lot more than you do....nanny nanny boo boo
a new midday show starts Jan 2nd as well as Ron and Fez at night.
By the way, if you don't think the ratings for DH are putrid then you must be on their PR staff.
 
Sell the numbers said:
Well then....as little as I know right now is certainly a lot more than you do....nanny nanny boo boo
a new midday show starts Jan 2nd as well as Ron and Fez at night.
By the way, if you don't think the ratings for DH are putrid then you must be on their PR staff.

As a person that works at WFNY( that would be you sell the numbers) you have said things before that have been false. You were Mark C's right hand man, so why did you not follow him to the other station. You said you were an AE at WFNY? Really. Funny because most of your posts were on the SF board. The Dog House rating have increased for the last 3 books. Can the big players at WFNY say the same? So what is it really you wanted to be on the Dog House show and they did not let you? You park Tom C's car? What is the truth?
 
i've never said i was anything but what i am.
sorry if you disagree with my posts.
but there's one thing that can not be disagreed with and that's the numbers on Doghouse. spin them how you want but a 1 share is a 1 share.
 
Sell the numbers said:
i've never said i was anything but what i am.
sorry if you disagree with my posts.
but there's one thing that can not be disagreed with and that's the numbers on Doghouse. spin them how you want but a 1 share is a 1 share.

Are you out of your mind? 1.3 share is what the station has, 23rd in NY. You are not posting the real demo 18-34 male. Let's spin them the way they were to be spun. 5+ share in the DEMO. WFNY is a talker that is going after this demo and this demo alone....So with that said, I disagree with your posts. Really. You have said you were a AE working for WFNY and that you worked hand in hand with Mark C( who is not with the station anymore). However the strange thing is that you posted all this info on the SF board. Which makes me wonder, what did the DOg House say to you that made you so mad? It's ok you can tell us.
 
Northstar, Tony, face it - if Doghouse was performing as strongly as you wished, they would have absorbed the extra hours (along with Radio Chick) that were vacated when Kramer left and Penn was rescheduled. Instead, they create an entirely new show.

Very, very, very interesting.
 
Starscream said:
Northstar, Tony, face it - if Doghouse was performing as strongly as you wished, they would have absorbed the extra hours (along with Radio Chick) that were vacated when Kramer left and Penn was rescheduled. Instead, they create an entirely new show.

Very, very, very interesting.

Was it that we need to face?

Every show on WFNY went to 3 hours

6-9am O & A
9-12 The Dog house
12-3 Nick D.
3-6 The Chick
6-9 Ron and Fez


What is it that I do not understand. The New PD is building a talker and they are looking for 3 hour shifts.


Not really that hard to understand
 
you're right a station with a 1 share is nothing to be proud of no matter what the format. But if you're one of the few on the wrong side of that 1 share dragging the overall station number down you best be updating your resume.
 
What do you expect with middays? All you, or more like two people, O and A homers blame the Dog House for pulling down their 9 a.m. hour.

Well, if O and A bash them, what do you expect? O and A fans won't stay and listen...

When a station tanks, people don't look at middays first. Free FM in San Francisco is tanking. O and A's numbers there stink too, but nobody says a thing, because they are middays. The drive times are the bread and butter of the station.

The Dog House gets no advertising from the station period. O and A have commercials, and billboards...yet they still can't move the station up .1 of a share.
 
Sell the numbers said:
you're right a station with a 1 share is nothing to be proud of no matter what the format. But if you're one of the few on the wrong side of that 1 share dragging the overall station number down you best be updating your resume.

Why is it that you quote the 12+ demo and not the Demo that WFNY is going after. The Doghouse has a 5+ share in that demo as O & A have a 6+ share. You really think a show that is going up in the demo is dragging the station down? Are you out of your mind? O & A went flatline and the Radio Chick is falling apart. Don't you think that Drive times are the true basis of the station?
 
The problem is that people expected O and A to produce an instant 16 share in the demo which is not as you suggest men 18-34, they skew a bit higher but not completely 25-54. Either way Dohgouse has ticked up a bit no doubt but they are not setting any fires. They have a small but vocal following. To some degree the same can be said of O and A (before Starscream has a heart attack let me explain). If you look at O and A's numbers all the way back to WNEW or eve earlier, their cume was never particularly high, the secret of the O and A success has always been their TSL! Their listeners while not a huge audience are insanely loyal and hang on their every word (also believe their every word too..... ::)). They listen long. O and A have some of the highest TSl in radio which is what has ALWAYS driven their numbers, it's not a huge cume like Howard cultivated along with a huge TSL as well. As for tthe dog house dragging down O and A's numbers with their 9 oclock hour? that was O and A's spin because although it is true that DH's 9 am hour got factored into O and A's numbers just because of the way the arbitron clock breaks down, O and A were not setting the world on fire like everyone including them thought they would with like I said an instant 16 share. No diss of DH or O and A, just objective fact without the hinderennce of being a psycho "fan" getting in the way.. the way it obviously does in most of these posts for and against DH or O and A.
 
TowerBuzz said:
The problem is that people expected O and A to produce an instant 16 share in the demo which is not as you suggest men 18-34, they skew a bit higher but not completely 25-54. Either way Dohgouse has ticked up a bit no doubt but they are not setting any fires. They have a small but vocal following. To some degree the same can be said of O and A (before Starscream has a heart attack let me explain). If you look at O and A's numbers all the way back to WNEW or eve earlier, their cume was never particularly high, the secret of the O and A success has always been their TSL! Their listeners while not a huge audience are insanely loyal and hang on their every word (also believe their every word too..... ::)). They listen long. O and A have some of the highest TSl in radio which is what has ALWAYS driven their numbers, it's not a huge cume like Howard cultivated along with a huge TSL as well. As for tthe dog house dragging down O and A's numbers with their 9 oclock hour? that was O and A's spin because although it is true that DH's 9 am hour got factored into O and A's numbers just because of the way the arbitron clock breaks down, O and A were not setting the world on fire like everyone including them thought they would with like I said an instant 16 share. No diss of DH or O and A, just objective fact without the hinderennce of being a psycho "fan" getting in the way.. the way it obviously does in most of these posts for and against DH or O and A.


Thanks Tower that was a really good post.
 
Tony much appreciation. I also really like both shows, when O and A are top of their game there really is nothing better. The problem is they have not really been top of their game for a while, they're coasting pretty hard on their rep and the FCC regs are not helpiing. The Doghouse has real potential, whenever you listen THEy at least sound like they are enjoying being there. THat is the key to a lot of good radio, they make you feel like you are a part of something that is going on and that is fun. But let's be honest too the doghouse is about the most unfocused show Ive ever heard, it's almost A.D.D radio, even worse than david LEe ROth was, if they tighten it up a bit they would be even more of a force to be reconed with!. Again not to pit one against the other but people get so caught up in their sense of loaylty about certain shows and spout off out of loyalty rather than any objective expression of the facts. Best to both shows in 2007!.

" can't we all jest git along"?
 
Hey Sell The Numbers.....

Guess what? JV and Elvis have resigned at 92.3 FreeFm WFNY. I guess you really had a good inside source.
 
Tony9000 said:
Hey Sell The Numbers.....

Guess what? JV and Elvis have resigned at 92.3 FreeFm WFNY. I guess you really had a good inside source.

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

It's interesting... the majority of the O&A fanbase in NYC aren't listening anyway, because their entire show is during the XM halves of O&A's and R&F's show, so they are pulling their listeners from somewhere. I guess I should give them credit for that.
 
Starscream said:
Tony9000 said:
Hey Sell The Numbers.....

Guess what? JV and Elvis have resigned at 92.3 FreeFm WFNY. I guess you really had a good inside source.

Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

It's interesting... the majority of the O&A fanbase in NYC aren't listening anyway, because their entire show is during the XM halves of O&A's and R&F's show, so they are pulling their listeners from somewhere. I guess I should give them credit for that.

Yes they are pulling big numbers from Long Island and New Jersey. It will be interesting to see if those numbers keep moving up as they have for the last few books.
 
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