Incoterm- Let the folks write whatever they want. I need the laugh. 
I love it when people dream things up and throw them out as gospel.
I love it when people dream things up and throw them out as gospel.
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WordLife
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True or False? O and A deep down wish the station does bad. I mean, if the format worked, they wouldn't get praised as much.
They simple want to have the best ratings, and then have the rest of the station suffer to make them look like they are the station.
Do you think O and A want Free Fm to succeed?
They simple want to have the best ratings, and then have the rest of the station suffer to make them look like they are the station.
Do you think O and A want Free Fm to succeed?
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Tony9000
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Word Life said:
I agree with you. It's time that all the show work together to get the station ratings, not just their own shows. If they work together this might just work. Funny WFNY 92.3 is being talked about all over the place and on all the message boards. This to me is a sign of things are turning around. O&A and the rest of the shows should work together.
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automationasphyxiation
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Tony9000 said:
Tony, if you think this is the case, it starts with YOU. Rather than using your posts to belittle O/A and pimp the Doghouse, be proactive and discuss how great both shows are.
Same goes for the Doghouse...tuck your tail between your legs and don't sweat it if O/A run late. The more of a bridge the two shows can build between each other the more likely each show's cume will be to support the other show. Right now, both shows seem to be encouraging their audience not to support the other show.
Be the bigger dog.
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automationasphyxiation said:
I agree it is time for them to make up. These 2 shows have a chance to become really big in NY and they can have all the Stern listeners that did not follow. The way I look at it Some will like O&A and others will like The Dog House. So it is time for these shows to all come together and work for the Station and not themselves right now. Make the station and you make yourself. I know O&A have a nice following, but some of those have jumped to JV and Elvis, and the reverse also. I agree it is time to close the gap and make it happen.
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Tony9000
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Sorry all, not sure why my last post did not post.
I was agreeing with others that said it is time for all at WFNY 92.3 Free Fm to work together and make the station. It is in the best interest of O&A and JV and Elvis and the Radio Chick to make this format work. If they pull the plug, they might go wild and that would change it for everyone.
All the best
I was agreeing with others that said it is time for all at WFNY 92.3 Free Fm to work together and make the station. It is in the best interest of O&A and JV and Elvis and the Radio Chick to make this format work. If they pull the plug, they might go wild and that would change it for everyone.
All the best
Oh my so much has happen in a few weeks. Well then I will just say that I still think that JV & Elvis are the best show on radio in the NY area. However, I will agree with others that it is time for the other shows to work together. My thoughts, my feelings and well that's me
Shows can despise each other and the station can still work. It's not a matter of promoting. Promos are played during the shows. It's not like O&A pick and choose what promos run during their show.
People aren't listening to JV and Elvis. O&A aren't going to promote a show that directly competes against not only their XM show, but also the show that follows them on XM.
Also, O&A aren't going to lie to their fans and endorse a show they aren't fans of. It's already been established that O&A aren't big Chick fans, but they haven't said word one about Leslie Gold. As for JV and Elvis, that's a problem.
People aren't listening to JV and Elvis. O&A aren't going to promote a show that directly competes against not only their XM show, but also the show that follows them on XM.
Also, O&A aren't going to lie to their fans and endorse a show they aren't fans of. It's already been established that O&A aren't big Chick fans, but they haven't said word one about Leslie Gold. As for JV and Elvis, that's a problem.
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Tony9000
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Starscream said:
CBS made this problem with the change over to XM. IF O&A feel that they are being hurt in the 9-10am hour that is their problem. They are dragging fans to XM and we all know this. Everyone knows that CBS is giving them the big numebers$$$$, so why would they want to bring the listeners to XM? For money, that's why. So that leaves JV and Elvis to fight for ratings, and that is what they have done. Look for major ratings in the next book from them. It's time for O& A to let go of the BS and work for the company that gave them millions ......As they said " we are millionaires" so now it is time to work and make that happen for WFNY.
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WordLife
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It doesn't matter if they don't like each other, but you have to be a moron to think that loyal O and A listeners would turn in the Dog House. Just like loyal Dog House listeners, like myself from SF, have not flicked the station on that fired them since the last day they were there.
What percentage of O and A listeners on Free FM go to XM? It's not the majority. So the rest of them that are loyal listeners tune out because O and A can't stand them.
And even for XM subscribers, why couldn't they tune back into Free FM when the XM show is over. Two more hours of The Dog House.
You think The Dog House really wants O and A to succeed? No, they want them to tank. But they suck it up on the air, like team players and give them respect. Dont you think they secretly want Radio Chick to fail, so they can take her slot? Of course, but they still promote her and say tune in.
What percentage of O and A listeners on Free FM go to XM? It's not the majority. So the rest of them that are loyal listeners tune out because O and A can't stand them.
And even for XM subscribers, why couldn't they tune back into Free FM when the XM show is over. Two more hours of The Dog House.
You think The Dog House really wants O and A to succeed? No, they want them to tank. But they suck it up on the air, like team players and give them respect. Dont you think they secretly want Radio Chick to fail, so they can take her slot? Of course, but they still promote her and say tune in.
Word Life said:
From what I have heard JV and Elvis are very hacky.. The name is "the doghouse" that screams cheese... I think that is the reason people are not tuning in not the fight they had.... Think about it O & A's problem with JV and Elvis is new. That dosen't explain why JV and Elvis have not had any listeners prior to the falling out. Look JV and Elvis are not for me but maybe there is an audience for them out there, if so they haven't found them and its doubtful they will in middays
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automationasphyxiation
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Word Life said:
I guess I'm a moron, because I don't understand why they can't reach the same audience? The publicized animosity between the two shows has made each show the enemy. Otherwise, there shouldn't be a problem, if both shows are entertaining. O/A may bring their loyalist listeners to XM, but the subs for XM remain relatively low in the grand scheme of things.
I suspect the attitude your describing relates to why they are no longer at their old station. That type of self-centered egotism becomes a cancer and brings the whole station down. If your statement is true, the Doghouse are NOT team players and deserve what they will eventually get. Team players don't want anyone on the team to fail. Team players want the OTHER team to fail.Word Life said:
There is one easy way to fix this. Perk them with bonuses if the other shows do well. There is no better way to get talent to play nice with each other then to make doing so fatten their wallets. Do this and you'll see lots of love and cross-promotion. Situation fixed.
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Tony9000
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automationasphyxiation said:
O&A for sure are not team players. No has ever heard them promote any other show on WFNY. They only promote themselves and XM radio. If you ask me 92.3 made a deal with the devil and now have to deal with. I respect Tom C for standing up to them and not letting them run the station. I respect what they have done in radio, but it is time for them to help with the station. You want numbers and numbers, well you need to make sure the station as a whole is doing well and not just your 3 hours. By the way The Dog house has always given respect to O&A, but when you do not get anything back, well that is when problems start.
"O&A have given no respect to the Doghouse".
Incorrect. The day that this all started, the VERY LAST WORDS both Opie (known as the biggest ass on the show) and Norton said - SINCERELY - was a thank you to JV and Elvis for letting them run late.
I know this for a FACT.
What were the first words JV and Elvis said that day when they cracked a mic? Started disrespecting O&A.
"O&A Need To Promote Other Shows".
At this point, NO O&A fans are going to believe O&A to listen to JV and Elvis. It's better for O&A not to say anything disparaging about other shows on FNY period than promote them. Besides - SHOW PROMOS RUN DURING COMMERICAL BREAKS ON O&A'S SHOW. What is so hard to understand here?
Besides, promoting JV and Elvis, Gillette, and Kramer goes against O&A, because they are then NOT promoting Ron and Fez and their own XM show. It's counterproductive.
Incorrect. The day that this all started, the VERY LAST WORDS both Opie (known as the biggest ass on the show) and Norton said - SINCERELY - was a thank you to JV and Elvis for letting them run late.
I know this for a FACT.
What were the first words JV and Elvis said that day when they cracked a mic? Started disrespecting O&A.
"O&A Need To Promote Other Shows".
At this point, NO O&A fans are going to believe O&A to listen to JV and Elvis. It's better for O&A not to say anything disparaging about other shows on FNY period than promote them. Besides - SHOW PROMOS RUN DURING COMMERICAL BREAKS ON O&A'S SHOW. What is so hard to understand here?
Besides, promoting JV and Elvis, Gillette, and Kramer goes against O&A, because they are then NOT promoting Ron and Fez and their own XM show. It's counterproductive.
The Opie and Anthony show can be heard in several markets across the country and on XM as well. It is hard to use valuable airtime and promote a show that can only be heard in NYC.
StereoBrain said:
So wha the hell does that mean? They can not say next up in the NY area JV and Elvis. No they are talking about the numbers for the 9-10am hour, but the truth is that they take a good amount of people with them to XM and others get to work. You see Dopie and Anthony, a lot of people start to work at 9am....Oh that's right you guys are millionaires and have no clue. You guys have not idea what it is like to work at for a full 8 hours. Board op and the tin man can kiss my ass. They lost what they came from Long Island middle class and now say " WE ARE MILLIONAIRES" screw you.
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LMFAO
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Stereobrain has a valid point dude.
If they start pimpin' NY...than all of the various markets/midday host will expect it.
I don't recall Howard Stern promoing Julie Slater coming in after him. Not that O/A are talented enough to mentioned in the same breath as 'Howie', but as a syndicated show its unrealistic to expect them to cross-promote the next show.
If they start pimpin' NY...than all of the various markets/midday host will expect it.
I don't recall Howard Stern promoing Julie Slater coming in after him. Not that O/A are talented enough to mentioned in the same breath as 'Howie', but as a syndicated show its unrealistic to expect them to cross-promote the next show.
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