the other end of the spectrum: what songs are you most tired of hearing on SJ?

[orange434]

what songs have been burnt to a crisp from being played so much on SJs over the years and any average "p-1" listener must be completely sick and tired of? can be instrumental or vocal, i'll start:

herb alpert - rise
bob james - angela/taxi theme
al jarreau - we're in this love together; after all; morning (he's done OTHER songs people!!!!!)
anita baker - sweet love; caught up in the rapture; givin you the best that i got
hugh masekela - grazin' in the grass
us3 - cantaloop
bobby caldwell - what you won't do for love
chaka khan - through the fire
chuck mangione - feels so good; give it all you got
grover/bill withers - just the two of us
kenny g - loving you; stranger on the shore; silhouette; songbird
george benson - on broadway
larry carlton - sleepwalk; minute by minute
larry coryell - angel on sunset
luther vandross - any love; if only for one night
james ingram - just once; 100 ways
michael mcdonald/doobies - i keep forgettin; minute by minute; what a fool believes
miles davis - human nature (the token miles davis song)
paul hardcastle - rainforest
peter white - could it be i'm falling in love
richard elliot - when a man loves a woman
ronny jordan - after hours
spyro gyra - morning dance; catching the sun

 

[cklw800]

Most of the above and these over-researched huge sellers and highly charted songs;

Open Your Heart-Niteflyte
Paisa-Paolo
Sing A Song-Richard Smith
Fly Like An Eagle-Ed Hamilton
All This Love-Pete Escovedo
The Wave (Original)-Kirk Whalum
Nightflight-The Blue Knights
Hippies On a Corner-Joe Sample (I like this one, but not every day since 2003 or so that I've heard it)
You Are-Lionel Richie
Dance With My Father-Luther Vandross
Europa-Gato Barbieri (I think of my favorite 70s porn whenever I hear this!)
In The Air Tonight-Phil Collins (love it when I hear it on my favorite rock and AC stations---but not on SJ)

Songs I like but are too poorly edited on SJ radio. rather not hear them;

On Broadway-George Benson (not fun without the funky drum solo)
Take Five-Dave Brubeck (hate the edit at the drum solo)
Mister Magic-Grover Washington, Jr. (hate the edit---it's like editing Zepplin's "Stairway To Heaven")

 

[JoshB]

Umm where to start, how about the songs that have no business at all being on a jazz station

1. Alicia Keys - No One (Good song, but not for SJ)
2. Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry (I'm not kidding I heard this being played on WJZW 105.9, WHAT THE HELL, there's nothing and I mean NOTHING jazzed about this song)
3. Timbaland/One Republic - Apologize (Ditto here too, it's a rap/pop song, for crying outloud LOL also heard on WJZW)
4. TLC - Waterfalls
5. Kenny G - Songbird & Silhoutte
6. George Benson - Softly, As in the Morning Sunrise & Breezing
7. Anita Baker - Any of her songs
8. Norah Jones - Don't Know Why
9. Kim Waters - Steppin Out
10. Jeff Kashiwa - Hyde Park
11. Stevie Wonder - Any of his songs
12. Sade - Paradise / Nothing can come between us
13. The Art of Noise - Moments in Love
14. Bill Whithers - Any
15. Beyonce - All

 

[AnotherCat]

besides CKLW's excellent list add..
Phil Collins - everything but especially "In The Air Tonight"
Commodores - anything by them or covers of anything by them
Billy Joel - Just The Way You Are
Linda Ronstadt - Oooh Baby Baby
Paltrow/BabyFace - Just My Imagination (there is no excuse for Paltrow's vocals here)
Any version of "Green Onions"
Any version of "Soulful Strut"
Any version of "Sexual Healing"
Anything by Earth Wind and Fire
Warren Bernhardt - Felinicity (I never figured out why this got so much play?!)
Anything by the Doobie Brothers/Michael McDonald
Any version of "Ain't No Woman Like the One I Got"
Anything by Dancing Fantasy, Soul Ballet, or any of those other ambient, faceless, nondescript soundscape people
Kiss From A Rose - Seal
Anything by Toni Braxton, Whitney Houston or any of the other melisma sisters.
Tina Turner - What's Love Got To Do With It
Spandau Ballet - True
Natalie Cole - Unforgettable, This Will Be (call Match.com) love Snow On The Sahara though..they never play that.
Dave Koz - It Might Be You B/EZ by any other name is still...B/EZ
Flack/Hathaway - Closer I Get to You

 

[Bill Harmonic]

Hey Cat Man...

Try the version of "Green Onions" by Kombo off the CD "The Big Blast". Very Tasty! There's also a version of Phil Collins "In The Air Tonight" that came out about the same time the single reared it's ugly head many years ago that's a pretty neat remix. When we played it on the stations I programmed it drew a ton of positive reaction. Still shouldn't play the song on the format but there is a different version if you can find it which is next to impossible.

 

[cklw800]

Hey, Phil---I mean Bill Harmonic. By the way, Another Cat is a female. Thought I'd hit you with that before she clawed you! I have heard that Kombo version of "Green Onions" and that other "In The Air Tonight". I heard Kombo in Columbus and the Collins in Dayton. I pass through those places a lot. But recently they both got the network so now it's all the same. I liked the difference between those two stations before. There's still a refreshing sound in Cleveland on WNWV near my neck of the woods. I hope that station is still BA-proof but I don't think any are anymore. There's no getting around GMs going for that easy out.

And 'Cat--I do like "Felinicity" though. Maybe because I discovered it early and in a roundabout way. I liked a group called Flim & the BBs and solo stuff by Billy Barber and a young Chuck Loeb, and they were all on that DMP label. So anything on DMP (Digital Music Products) back then I picked up. There are other cuts on Warren Bernhardt's CD that are great and should have been played, but I just thought "Felinicity" was cool. With a name like "Another Cat", I though you'd be more biased!

 

[orange434]

Re: the other end of the spectrum: what songs are you most tired of hearing on

wnwv is definitely a good sounding, local station, i sure hope they last too. obviously a lot of the music is ba standard and they are strictly 1:1 instrumental to vocal now which is unfortunate, but bernie kimble manages to mix in some unique stuff too, heard enya "orinoco flow" on there, old ones from fattburger, sam riney, leslie letven, basia, etc.., and they are consistently a top 7 performer in cleveland with somewhat of a rimshot signal. locally owned, hopefully that keeps away the network for as long as possible. gotta believe the full court press is on though.

 

[AnotherCat]

Did I forget my least favorite song in the universe. The one that makes me totally cringe just as much as it did when I played the original on CHR in the 80s. -----
I would be a very happy girl if I never had to hear "Sexual Healing" again for the rest of my life. I could have said the same thing when I heard it the first time at a music meeting when it came out. The guys were all going nuts and in true 80s style I was... like...gag me! That song just gives me the creeps. And because i'm on so many mailing lists I must get a new cover of it every 3 months. That BabyFace song about doing it on the kitchen floor that was on the Fourplay CD was equally creepy. You do it on the floor..you clean the floor. And don't wake me up for anything after I finally get to sleep unless you have a really strong death wish. So that's how I feel about those two songs. As a matter of fact it might be a nice idea to not play the graphicly sexual songs till After Hours or Quiet Storm time. I was in a car with a friend's kids when one of those "do it all night long" songs came on. The kids thought it was quite funny, their Mom and I did not. I know CHR is graphic but A/C and SJ are supposed to be where you get away from that.

I was never a big DMP fan. Probably because their stuff was generally too underproduced and riffy/noodly for me, There was one song on one of Chuck Loeb's DMP CDs that I liked. That's about it. I never liked Flim and the BBs..they tended to almost sound baroque. I'm basically a pop girl who likes Guitars and Saxes better than singers so improv just doesn't do it for me unless it's rock guitar solos (like the new Metro). I have the Kombo CD but some songs are old, tired, and need to be shelved. True Oldies is not Smooth Jazz (although recent BA playlists share a lot of titles). Ornico Flow is 20 years old. In The Air Tonight is almost 30 years old. There's a point where it's time to stop living in the distant past. (That being said I did spend some time at an 80s station. It paid the bills. And at least 70s and 60s were not involed.)

 

[cklw800]

wnwv is definitely a good sounding, local station, i sure hope they last too. obviously a lot of the music is ba standard and they are strictly 1:1 instrumental to vocal now which is unfortunate, but bernie kimble manages to mix in some unique stuff too, heard enya "orinoco flow" on there, old ones from fattburger, sam riney, leslie letven, basia, etc.., and they are consistently a top 7 performer in cleveland with somewhat of a rimshot signal. locally owned, hopefully that keeps away the network for as long as possible. gotta believe the full court press is on though.

Every time I post about hearing a Smooth Jazz station that is good sounding, local, unique with music, a passionate sounding air staff, it's followed by a format flip or they get BA (same effect). Even though these stations are not Citadel, the Citadel debacle and the decline of the Smooth Jazz format certainly makes Seattle, Cleveland, San Diego, Detroit and others look like dead meat for full BA Network action. Either a PPM friendly format flip or either a flip to the BA bird. I vote for a format flip because those jobs are lost anyway, and BA you can get on the Internet by listening to the stream of any SJ station anyway. The Washington Smooth Jazz debacle hurts more because of the great stuff that was on the individual jocks Web pages about their families, dedication to community service and the hard work they did to get where they are---were. Look for BA to go on the hard sell in the aforementioned markets. I can't see a station in NY/DC taking on the format unless they do go all bird. But maybe those stations will hold off and take CHR/Hot AC to get Ryan Seacrest or the True Oldies formats. Those are cheaper too without local talent salaries and those formats are more exciting, more defined and PPM friendly. I'd do anything to keep from being laughed at by playing Fergie, Kelly Sweet and Pussycat Dolls followed by a voice saying "Smooooth Jazzzz..."