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The Two Sunny's - XM Licenses Old Bonneville Exclusives for Second EZ Channel

XM will have two beautiful music channels on April 1st. The first, "Sunny" is programmed by Clear Channel which will introduce advertising on the channel this spring. The other, working title "Bright" will launch on April 1st and XM has gone and licensed largely the same music library that Clear Channel has used for Sunny, including the custom music from the old Bonneville library for easy listening stations back in the 1980s when the format was still relevant on broadcast radio.

Consolidation limits the choices for XM as far as this kind of music goes. Most of the newer music (such as it is) is coming out of Europe or Japan.

So XM will duplicate content as they run out the clock on the Clear Channel-programmed stations (which will get the boot by 2008 when the contract runs out I'm sure). Who knew that beautiful music would actually see competition on satellite radio. It's a unique format that is a textbook case of what satellite radio niche-formatted radio should be all about. And Sirius totally ignores it, along with a space music/new age format and other specialized formats.

I applaud XM for supporting niche formats like Sunny and Audio Visions. It's why satellite radio is worthwhile. I also appreciate them sticking it to Clear Channel. Hopefully they'll boot the Clear Channel channels into Channel Siberia (above 200) and place their own new outlets on the old channel assignments of the Clear Channel-programmed channels they replace.
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

XM is supposedly launching other music channels to compete with the Clear Channel commercial-containing ones. Two others are Mix and Nashville. Any word on what XM's commercial-free competing channels will be for those? Any word on when they will debut? Some had said as early as April 1.
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

> XM is supposedly launching other music channels to compete
> with the Clear Channel commercial-containing ones. Two
> others are Mix and Nashville. Any word on what XM's
> commercial-free competing channels will be for those? Any
> word on when they will debut? Some had said as early as
> April 1.
>
What about KISS-XM 21 right now KISS-XM kinda sucks same old same old music plus 20on20 play the same songs over and over then KISS-XM plays it after 20-20... Also they need to do alittle more work on 20on20 they need to play more new music to the top20 countdown. Has anyone hread about what they will do on the 20on20 channel on April 1st???
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

here is a part of whats coming:

xm 42 liquid metal/ xm 17 us country/ xm 26 hits/ and flight 29?? (dont know what it is)


that was released to retail yesterday..




<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
 
Insert standard statement regarding bandwidth here.<P ID="signature">______________
</P>
 
Gotta admit this is very cool for beautiful music fans like myself. I'm hoping the "new" beautiful music channel has more of a contemporary sound, so to speak. Here's why. The beautiful music radio I remember from the late 80's and early 90's was mainly covers of 70s and 80s pop tunes, and as corny as most of them were, I nevertheless LOVED them. That's what gave the format its charm ... hearing a custom instrumental cut of Whitney Houston. "Sunny" plays some of these, but not very many. Some of the stuff Sunny plays almost borders on big band. I hope the new station takes a more "modern" sound, by modern, I mean being late 80s sounding B/EZ radio, instead of 60s, 70's and early 80s sounding B/EZ radio. Anyone else agree?<P ID="signature">______________

http://weatherwindow.blogspot.com</P>
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

> here is a part of whats coming:
>
> xm 42 liquid metal/ xm 17 us country/ xm 26 hits/ and flight
> 29?? (dont know what it is)
>
>
> that was released to retail yesterday..
>
XM 29 is UPop your saying XM-29 U-Pop will change to Flight???
 
> Gotta admit this is very cool for beautiful music fans like
> myself. I'm hoping the "new" beautiful music channel has
> more of a contemporary sound, so to speak. Here's why. The
> beautiful music radio I remember from the late 80's and
> early 90's was mainly covers of 70s and 80s pop tunes, and
> as corny as most of them were, I nevertheless LOVED them.

I think some of the best examples of beautiful music came from Europeans like Paul Mauriat, Caravelli, James Last and Pourcel. A lot of beautiful music got trashed as elevator music or muzak, but as you know there are major differences in the music styles of foreground conductors like Paul Mauriat, and say some studio session doing random hold music and stuff for stores and offices. One is designed to stand out, the other not.

Some of Mauriat's arrangements edge closer to jazz interpretations, not simply remakes.

There are lots of problems with carrying forward the format, and you can clearly hear them on Sunny and the handful of stations left still playing the format.

First, because beautiful music formats require such a deep library, it's getting increasingly hard to find new music to add to the format without, in essence, changing the format. Let's face it, you can study the format's progress by its playlist. Cover renditions of popular songs reached their heights in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s. What Beatles song wasn't covered at least once and is still seeing heavy rotation on Sunny today? The pop music of the 1970s all the way into disco is well covered. Then, by the 1980s you could see the writing on the wall. Fewer new songs resulted in format providers like Bonneville having to commission their own orchestras to get new material. Lex DeAzevedo was a perfect example for Bonneville. He started doing a lot of music for the LDS/Mormon Church and was basically drafted by Bonneville to help them fill their easy listening library with a lot of instrumental arrangements of contemporary music. He did a fine job but let's face it - that stuff was never going to be commercially viable on its own.

In the early 1980s, Bonneville moved away from reel to reel tape and put their format on satellite (many stations called it 'Satellite Stereo'), and I recall one major "coup" for them was a customized arrangement of the theme from the ABC miniseries The Winds of War which they managed to record and get onto Bonneville stations around a week after the miniseries started. You can do that with your own orchestras.

The BBC light music department also became essential for a lot of good program material.

The second problem is what kind of music is adaptable to easy listening. Pop music in this country has changed quite a bit from the 1960s and 1970s. Today's pop has a lot more influence in R&B and is very reliant on the vocals, which are delivered a lot differently than Karen Carpenter or Neil Diamond might have done them. How in the world do you adapt a lot of that music to instrumental renditions? You really can't. You could manage to adapt some adult contemporary stuff and even some country and western, I suppose, but it's not as easy as it used to be.

The third problem is what to do with your core library, which isn't getting any younger. There were different music philosophies between the major syndicators of the day. You could easily pick out a Schulke client station from a Bonneville client. Some syndicators tolerated a lot of older catalog material. For instance, you'll still hear a lot of Bert Kaempfert and Ronnie Aldrich in the instrumentals and Ray Conniff vocals on Sunny. They scream 1960s, right down to their hiss laden and compressed frequency response sound. On Bonneville stations, you might hear Aldrich, but older stuff was de-emphasized. There were some easy listening stations that faked a stereo sound out of a lot of old mono material as well.

We're now into the 21st century and a lot of the core library was produced for people who are no longer with us.

The answer for some stations was to branch towards contemporary instrumental jazz, add more recent vocals, toss in a few radio friendly uptempo new age songs, or get rid of the format.

Sunny right now seems trapped in time. It's like the clock stopped around 1985 and you have their unchanging library playing the same tunes over and over until you finally just quit the channel.

That leads to problem number four - the fact that the format is essentially commercially dead and the carcass core libraries of the major syndicators of days gone by are now warehoused by one or two remaining providers. So XM really has limited options as to where to go to build a new channel. It likely will contain the same music as Sunny does today.

> That's what gave the format its charm ... hearing a custom
> instrumental cut of Whitney Houston. "Sunny" plays some of
> these, but not very many. Some of the stuff Sunny plays
> almost borders on big band. I hope the new station takes a
> more "modern" sound, by modern, I mean being late 80s
> sounding B/EZ radio, instead of 60s, 70's and early 80s
> sounding B/EZ radio. Anyone else agree?

I just don't see that happening unless the drop the current 80/20 instrumental/vocal split and move closer to 50/50 because all of the more modern stuff is going to be vocal, and then suddenly you are in AC land. Music Choice found more contemporary arrangements by going overseas - there is still a light music following in Europe and now increasingly in Russia and the former eastern bloc. Japan still has a major following of this kind of music as well. For Music Choice, that meant mining whatever Reader's Digest was putting out on CD - they have some minor orchestras generating music for their compact disc series. But I haven't seen anything like that coming from Sunny's playlist.

I think the best remaining hope for this music is going to come from orchestras overseas, especially in Europe and the former USSR/eastern bloc countries + Japan. But it will forever more be a niche format. If pop music in this country swings back away from R&B back towards the sound of the 60s and 70s, there is a chance the format will draw some new material from that as well.
 
Very interesting explanation Phillip. You really seem to know your beautiful music! Actually, I think you kinda understood what I was getting at, but I think I could have been a bit clearer.

If you haven't already, whenever you have time, listen to KLUX or KHOY, both from Texas (www.klux.org) or (www.khoy.org). Listen to their beautiful music, and then listen to XM's Sunny. There is a noticable difference, but I don't know how to put my finger on it. They play Lex tunes just like Sunny. They play Nick Ingman tunes just like Sunny. But there seems to be many more "80's sounding" instrumentals in their mix than Sunny's, which sounds to me more like what a beautiful music station in 1975 sounds like. KLUX or KHOY, on the other hand, sounds more like a beautiful music station in 1987, the ending days of the beautiful music era. Maybe you can help explain, but it's the KLUX/KHOY mix that I really love that I wish Sunny would sound more like. <P ID="signature">______________

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> If you haven't already, whenever you have time, listen to
> KLUX or KHOY, both from Texas (www.klux.org) or
> (www.khoy.org). Listen to their beautiful music, and then
> listen to XM's Sunny. There is a noticable difference, but I
> don't know how to put my finger on it. They play Lex tunes
> just like Sunny. They play Nick Ingman tunes just like
> Sunny. But there seems to be many more "80's sounding"
> instrumentals in their mix than Sunny's, which sounds to me
> more like what a beautiful music station in 1975 sounds
> like. KLUX or KHOY, on the other hand, sounds more like a
> beautiful music station in 1987, the ending days of the
> beautiful music era. Maybe you can help explain, but it's
> the KLUX/KHOY mix that I really love that I wish Sunny would
> sound more like.

What is happening there is that they are following the footsteps of Phil Stout, who programs the beautiful music channel on Music Choice. I found several Reader's Digest selections running on those outlets, and that music is coming from east European orchestras and other generic ensembles that were commissioned to produce tunes for the project (or re-licensed material coming from sources like the BBC). Sunny doesn't seem to program any of that material from Reader's Digest, and they've released at least a dozen multi-CD sets of specially commissioned music - a treasure trove for a beautiful music programmer.

Stout's philosophy seems to be to keep it as contemporary as possible, and frankly music from the early 1960s just isn't going to cut it.
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

> > here is a part of whats coming:
> >
> > xm 42 liquid metal/ xm 17 us country/ xm 26 hits/ and
> flight
> > 29?? (dont know what it is)
> >
> >
> > that was released to retail yesterday..
> >
> XM 29 is UPop your saying XM-29 U-Pop will change to
> Flight???
>
guess so..its also rumored the fish will become the message..<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

> here is a part of whats coming:
>
> xm 42 liquid metal/ xm 17 us country/ xm 26 hits/ and flight
> 29?? (dont know what it is)

Oh, if they kill U-Pop there will be hell to pay. That's a third of my XM listening right there. It's one of the few Hits channels that has personalities, and it costs nothing for XM to put on the sats (they own the company that produces it worldwide). I'm hoping this is either wrong or that U-Pop will be moving to another channel. I can't imagine them killing a popular station just to bring in clones. If anything 20 on 20 should get the boot if a new CHR is necessary. And I'd hope Clear Channel actually does something with Kiss instead of keeping it an automated jukebox.
 
> And Sirius totally ignores it, along with a
> space music/new age format and other specialized formats.
>
>> Actually, Sirius doesnt ignore new age music, they have a new age offfering called "The Spa" on channel 73, its pretty good, not sure what you consider "space music"?
 
Re: The Two Sunny's - a question

> > here is a part of whats coming:
> >
> > xm 42 liquid metal/ xm 17 us country/ xm 26 hits/ and
> flight
> > 29?? (dont know what it is)
>
> Oh, if they kill U-Pop there will be hell to pay. That's a
> third of my XM listening right there. It's one of the few
> Hits channels that has personalities, and it costs nothing
> for XM to put on the sats (they own the company that
> produces it worldwide). I'm hoping this is either wrong or
> that U-Pop will be moving to another channel. I can't
> imagine them killing a popular station just to bring in
> clones. If anything 20 on 20 should get the boot if a new
> CHR is necessary. And I'd hope Clear Channel actually does
> something with Kiss instead of keeping it an automated
> jukebox.
>
its only a name change...not a format change.<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
 
I hope this Escape is like Sunny.I like the older 50s'-70s music that Sunny plays.I tend to lean toward the older b/ez because I use to listen to a b/ez station WCRY that played the older stuff in the 70s.Don't get me wrong I like the newer too especially by Frank Chacksfield doing 70s and 80s stuff.Sunny plays it like I like it.I perfer the 80/20 instrumentals over vocals.Marlon will be programming Escape but someone else will be programming Sunny now.


> > Gotta admit this is very cool for beautiful music fans
> like
> > myself. I'm hoping the "new" beautiful music channel has
> > more of a contemporary sound, so to speak. Here's why. The
>
> > beautiful music radio I remember from the late 80's and
> > early 90's was mainly covers of 70s and 80s pop tunes, and
>
> > as corny as most of them were, I nevertheless LOVED them.
>
> I think some of the best examples of beautiful music came
> from Europeans like Paul Mauriat, Caravelli, James Last and
> Pourcel. A lot of beautiful music got trashed as elevator
> music or muzak, but as you know there are major differences
> in the music styles of foreground conductors like Paul
> Mauriat, and say some studio session doing random hold music
> and stuff for stores and offices. One is designed to stand
> out, the other not.
>
> Some of Mauriat's arrangements edge closer to jazz
> interpretations, not simply remakes.
>
> There are lots of problems with carrying forward the format,
> and you can clearly hear them on Sunny and the handful of
> stations left still playing the format.
>
> First, because beautiful music formats require such a deep
> library, it's getting increasingly hard to find new music to
> add to the format without, in essence, changing the format.
> Let's face it, you can study the format's progress by its
> playlist. Cover renditions of popular songs reached their
> heights in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s. What
> Beatles song wasn't covered at least once and is still
> seeing heavy rotation on Sunny today? The pop music of the
> 1970s all the way into disco is well covered. Then, by the
> 1980s you could see the writing on the wall. Fewer new
> songs resulted in format providers like Bonneville having to
> commission their own orchestras to get new material. Lex
> DeAzevedo was a perfect example for Bonneville. He started
> doing a lot of music for the LDS/Mormon Church and was
> basically drafted by Bonneville to help them fill their easy
> listening library with a lot of instrumental arrangements of
> contemporary music. He did a fine job but let's face it -
> that stuff was never going to be commercially viable on its
> own.
>
> In the early 1980s, Bonneville moved away from reel to reel
> tape and put their format on satellite (many stations called
> it 'Satellite Stereo'), and I recall one major "coup" for
> them was a customized arrangement of the theme from the ABC
> miniseries The Winds of War which they managed to record and
> get onto Bonneville stations around a week after the
> miniseries started. You can do that with your own
> orchestras.
>
> The BBC light music department also became essential for a
> lot of good program material.
>
> The second problem is what kind of music is adaptable to
> easy listening. Pop music in this country has changed quite
> a bit from the 1960s and 1970s. Today's pop has a lot more
> influence in R&B and is very reliant on the vocals, which
> are delivered a lot differently than Karen Carpenter or Neil
> Diamond might have done them. How in the world do you adapt
> a lot of that music to instrumental renditions? You really
> can't. You could manage to adapt some adult contemporary
> stuff and even some country and western, I suppose, but it's
> not as easy as it used to be.
>
> The third problem is what to do with your core library,
> which isn't getting any younger. There were different music
> philosophies between the major syndicators of the day. You
> could easily pick out a Schulke client station from a
> Bonneville client. Some syndicators tolerated a lot of
> older catalog material. For instance, you'll still hear a
> lot of Bert Kaempfert and Ronnie Aldrich in the
> instrumentals and Ray Conniff vocals on Sunny. They scream
> 1960s, right down to their hiss laden and compressed
> frequency response sound. On Bonneville stations, you might
> hear Aldrich, but older stuff was de-emphasized. There were
> some easy listening stations that faked a stereo sound out
> of a lot of old mono material as well.
>
> We're now into the 21st century and a lot of the core
> library was produced for people who are no longer with us.
>
> The answer for some stations was to branch towards
> contemporary instrumental jazz, add more recent vocals, toss
> in a few radio friendly uptempo new age songs, or get rid of
> the format.
>
> Sunny right now seems trapped in time. It's like the clock
> stopped around 1985 and you have their unchanging library
> playing the same tunes over and over until you finally just
> quit the channel.
>
> That leads to problem number four - the fact that the format
> is essentially commercially dead and the carcass core
> libraries of the major syndicators of days gone by are now
> warehoused by one or two remaining providers. So XM really
> has limited options as to where to go to build a new
> channel. It likely will contain the same music as Sunny
> does today.
>
> > That's what gave the format its charm ... hearing a custom
>
> > instrumental cut of Whitney Houston. "Sunny" plays some of
>
> > these, but not very many. Some of the stuff Sunny plays
> > almost borders on big band. I hope the new station takes a
>
> > more "modern" sound, by modern, I mean being late 80s
> > sounding B/EZ radio, instead of 60s, 70's and early 80s
> > sounding B/EZ radio. Anyone else agree?
>
> I just don't see that happening unless the drop the current
> 80/20 instrumental/vocal split and move closer to 50/50
> because all of the more modern stuff is going to be vocal,
> and then suddenly you are in AC land. Music Choice found
> more contemporary arrangements by going overseas - there is
> still a light music following in Europe and now increasingly
> in Russia and the former eastern bloc. Japan still has a
> major following of this kind of music as well. For Music
> Choice, that meant mining whatever Reader's Digest was
> putting out on CD - they have some minor orchestras
> generating music for their compact disc series. But I
> haven't seen anything like that coming from Sunny's
> playlist.
>
> I think the best remaining hope for this music is going to
> come from orchestras overseas, especially in Europe and the
> former USSR/eastern bloc countries + Japan. But it will
> forever more be a niche format. If pop music in this
> country swings back away from R&B back towards the sound of
> the 60s and 70s, there is a chance the format will draw some
> new material from that as well.
>
 
Kudos for this post (and thread, so far).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to rush to tune in should Sirius ever add such a stream. (At this time I subscribe to Sirius but not XM.)

At one time, I would have been one of those for whom such a statement as "A lot of beautiful music got trashed as elevator music or muzak" applied. (And, indeed, to cite one bad example, around 10 years ago I heard, in a Louisiana grocery store, what I thought was a godawful instrumental cover of Split Enz's "I Hope I Never," in which Tim (not Neil?) Finn's plaintive vocals were replaced with a mild saxophone. I have nothing against saxophones, in fact sometimes they're great, but in this case, ahem ... Of course, I would hope that the onetime members of Split Enz enjoyed the royalties -- they might've needed them, for all I know -- and covers such as these do provide employment for the easy listening musicians. In fact, I imagine it might even conceivably be fun sometimes to come in to work and hear, for instance, "Today we're going to be working on that Beatles number.")

But posts such as these make the format seem more interesting to me.

Nice. :)

(BTW, on another related note, one specific source of material for an easy listening format might be Devo's EZ-Listening Disc that, if I'm not mistaken, was recorded as a joke. See http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:4u9yxd7bjol7 for one reviewer's take on it. [He seemed underwhelmed.])


> > Gotta admit this is very cool for beautiful music fans
> like
> > myself. I'm hoping the "new" beautiful music channel has
> > more of a contemporary sound, so to speak. Here's why. The
>
> > beautiful music radio I remember from the late 80's and
> > early 90's was mainly covers of 70s and 80s pop tunes, and
>
> > as corny as most of them were, I nevertheless LOVED them.
>
> I think some of the best examples of beautiful music came
> from Europeans like Paul Mauriat, Caravelli, James Last and
> Pourcel. A lot of beautiful music got trashed as elevator
> music or muzak, but as you know there are major differences
> in the music styles of foreground conductors like Paul
> Mauriat, and say some studio session doing random hold music
> and stuff for stores and offices. One is designed to stand
> out, the other not.
>
> Some of Mauriat's arrangements edge closer to jazz
> interpretations, not simply remakes.
>
> There are lots of problems with carrying forward the format,
> and you can clearly hear them on Sunny and the handful of
> stations left still playing the format.
>
> First, because beautiful music formats require such a deep
> library, it's getting increasingly hard to find new music to
> add to the format without, in essence, changing the format.
> Let's face it, you can study the format's progress by its
> playlist. Cover renditions of popular songs reached their
> heights in the late 1960s and throughout the 1970s. What
> Beatles song wasn't covered at least once and is still
> seeing heavy rotation on Sunny today? The pop music of the
> 1970s all the way into disco is well covered. Then, by the
> 1980s you could see the writing on the wall. Fewer new
> songs resulted in format providers like Bonneville having to
> commission their own orchestras to get new material. Lex
> DeAzevedo was a perfect example for Bonneville. He started
> doing a lot of music for the LDS/Mormon Church and was
> basically drafted by Bonneville to help them fill their easy
> listening library with a lot of instrumental arrangements of
> contemporary music. He did a fine job but let's face it -
> that stuff was never going to be commercially viable on its
> own.
>
> In the early 1980s, Bonneville moved away from reel to reel
> tape and put their format on satellite (many stations called
> it 'Satellite Stereo'), and I recall one major "coup" for
> them was a customized arrangement of the theme from the ABC
> miniseries The Winds of War which they managed to record and
> get onto Bonneville stations around a week after the
> miniseries started. You can do that with your own
> orchestras.
>
> The BBC light music department also became essential for a
> lot of good program material.
>
> The second problem is what kind of music is adaptable to
> easy listening. Pop music in this country has changed quite
> a bit from the 1960s and 1970s. Today's pop has a lot more
> influence in R&B and is very reliant on the vocals, which
> are delivered a lot differently than Karen Carpenter or Neil
> Diamond might have done them. How in the world do you adapt
> a lot of that music to instrumental renditions? You really
> can't. You could manage to adapt some adult contemporary
> stuff and even some country and western, I suppose, but it's
> not as easy as it used to be.
>
> The third problem is what to do with your core library,
> which isn't getting any younger. There were different music
> philosophies between the major syndicators of the day. You
> could easily pick out a Schulke client station from a
> Bonneville client. Some syndicators tolerated a lot of
> older catalog material. For instance, you'll still hear a
> lot of Bert Kaempfert and Ronnie Aldrich in the
> instrumentals and Ray Conniff vocals on Sunny. They scream
> 1960s, right down to their hiss laden and compressed
> frequency response sound. On Bonneville stations, you might
> hear Aldrich, but older stuff was de-emphasized. There were
> some easy listening stations that faked a stereo sound out
> of a lot of old mono material as well.
>
> We're now into the 21st century and a lot of the core
> library was produced for people who are no longer with us.
>
> The answer for some stations was to branch towards
> contemporary instrumental jazz, add more recent vocals, toss
> in a few radio friendly uptempo new age songs, or get rid of
> the format.
>
> Sunny right now seems trapped in time. It's like the clock
> stopped around 1985 and you have their unchanging library
> playing the same tunes over and over until you finally just
> quit the channel.
>
> That leads to problem number four - the fact that the format
> is essentially commercially dead and the carcass core
> libraries of the major syndicators of days gone by are now
> warehoused by one or two remaining providers. So XM really
> has limited options as to where to go to build a new
> channel. It likely will contain the same music as Sunny
> does today.
>
> > That's what gave the format its charm ... hearing a custom
>
> > instrumental cut of Whitney Houston. "Sunny" plays some of
>
> > these, but not very many. Some of the stuff Sunny plays
> > almost borders on big band. I hope the new station takes a
>
> > more "modern" sound, by modern, I mean being late 80s
> > sounding B/EZ radio, instead of 60s, 70's and early 80s
> > sounding B/EZ radio. Anyone else agree?
>
> I just don't see that happening unless the drop the current
> 80/20 instrumental/vocal split and move closer to 50/50
> because all of the more modern stuff is going to be vocal,
> and then suddenly you are in AC land. Music Choice found
> more contemporary arrangements by going overseas - there is
> still a light music following in Europe and now increasingly
> in Russia and the former eastern bloc. Japan still has a
> major following of this kind of music as well. For Music
> Choice, that meant mining whatever Reader's Digest was
> putting out on CD - they have some minor orchestras
> generating music for their compact disc series. But I
> haven't seen anything like that coming from Sunny's
> playlist.
>
> I think the best remaining hope for this music is going to
> come from orchestras overseas, especially in Europe and the
> former USSR/eastern bloc countries + Japan. But it will
> forever more be a niche format. If pop music in this
> country swings back away from R&B back towards the sound of
> the 60s and 70s, there is a chance the format will draw some
> new material from that as well.
>
 
It'll be FLIGHT 26; U-Pop is on 29

According to a March 27, 2006, XM news release, the Flight will be on channel 26. (To wit: "Flight 26 (XM Channel 26): Modern Hits of the 90's & Now ")

U-Pop is on 29.

http://www.xmradio.com/newsroom/screen/pr_2006_03_27.html

http://www.xmradio.com/programming/full_channel_listing.jsp?sort=number

(Thank goodness; while I generally prefer Sirius, U-Pop has always been one of the things making me look wistfully "over my shoulder," as it were, at XM.)

> > > here is a part of whats coming:
> > >
> > > xm 42 liquid metal/ xm 17 us country/ xm 26 hits/ and
> > flight
> > > 29?? (dont know what it is)
> > >
> > >
> > > that was released to retail yesterday..
> > >
> > XM 29 is UPop your saying XM-29 U-Pop will change to
> > Flight???
> >
> guess so..its also rumored the fish will become the
> message..
>
 
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