time cues, carrier info, radio news feeds, and anything else affiliates hear

[country103]

i'm new here and i'm wondering about time cues, carrier info, radio news feeds, and anything else affiliates hear :-[, i heard time cues and carrier info on my sirius radio before, on the sirius stars channel, the automation failed to cover the top-of-the-hour news break

i first heard it after a promo about sirius's new playboy channel and a sirius id, then a 0.1 second beep, then some good music came on and an announcer came on saying "from los angeles, it's the david lawrence show, monday through friday, 7:00 to 10:00 Pacific" then another announcer came on saying (sorry if this is all caps) "AMC-8 ABC NY SAT SRVS 03 LEFT" plus there was another thing that said "30 seconds past the hour" and "one minute past the hour" and so on and the things said by the announcers were repeated

5 minutes later: it's about to start and the usual time check now includes a countdown to the show: "6 minutes past the hour, 60 seconds to live" and then "30 seconds to live" and after the short beep, "tones for count-in"
then a tone went blaring then some countdown tones, silence, and the show began.

any examples of this, radio news feeds, and anything else, even audio examples

thanks

 

[PTBoardOp94]

When you actually hear a closure tone, it is not an automation issue, but one with the Satellite Reciever the station uses. The satellite reciever is supposed to detect the tone, remove it from the audio, and send out the closure through a card to the automation computer which will decide what, if anything, to do with it.

Time cues are simply closure tones which are sent at exact times every hour, so the automation knows "if I see closure # 10, change the time to xx:03:00".

Most news feeds (in fact all of them that I've ever known) use a fixed time breakaway rather than (or in some cases in addition to) a closure tone. ABC News has a 3:00 exact newscast, but allows breakaway at 2:00. I think they send a closure tone at 2:00, but we just use the fixed time aspect. CNN has a 2:00 news followed by 1:00 ads followed by 2:00 more news. They use closure tones as well as fixed time. USA Radio Network News has a 1:30 news, :60 ads, and 3:00 additional news.

Hope that addresses your question.

And I'm sure that if I'm wrong in any way, I'll be corrected. Which helps us all

 

[country103]

i mean Closed-Circut

like the Closed-Circut news feeds and these clips


this is how ABC News Radio covered the Scott Peterson verdict, including a countdown to the live anchored coverage (with a bunch of disgusting mouth noises ) the start of the coverage and the verdict itself. Since there were no cameras in the courtroom as there were with OJ and only one microphone allowed, most TV news channels cut to a static screen.

http://pp.meldrum.co.uk/files/2005/peterson.rm

and the closed circuit time hacks for "West Virgina Outdoors" from the Metronews Radio Network

http://pp.meldrum.co.uk/files/2005/barttimehacks.rm

and i do remember hearing 2 messages to affiliates from ESPN Radio during a rain delay on Sunday night baseball
(on opening day, the game was at Dodger stadium), they played annoying music (thought the station was stunting for a new format ), i don't have audio of that

that's what i'm talking about

 

[clichemoth]

My local NASCAR station (WTDR 92.7/Talladega, AL) often broadcasts some of the MRN cues before the broadcast of the race actually begins. On at least one instance, they started doing this 10 minutes before, so all they aired for that 10 minutes was the countdown..."Your Motor Racing Network broadcast will begin in x minutes/seconds."

 

[country103]

any audio of THUNDER 92.7 doing this?

 

[clichemoth]

Sadly, no. I'm usually in the car when I hear them do that. If I'm at home, I'm watching on TV. I'll have to listen from here Sunday to see if they do it again.

 

[country103]

did they do it???