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W273ds Stronger signal than WYPH-LP in hartford
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That's the translator of WBOM AM 1470 based in Meriden. Translator is located at Rattlesnake Mountain using the 102.5 MHz frequency on the same tower as most Hartford TV stations and WJMJ/WRCH FM.
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W273DS is actually a class D translator while WYPH is a low powered station which means any translators generally have a higher ERP of up to 250 watts set by the FCC in that FM class while low powered stations has a lower ERP level (up to 100 watts) in a class marked by the FCC.
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W273DS does have an interference complaint on record, the FCC hasn't done anything about it yet. WYPH is claiming that it is actually W273DS that is interfering with their signal. Red Wolf tried saying WYPH is the one interfering but they got shot down.
An interference complaint filing by either signal is a detailed process. Each station is charged to prove the physical listening location of the complaining listener and where that is pertaining to the actual coverage area and strength of the signal at that point. Then depending on the population, a certain minimum number of complaints must be received and legitimized. Legitimized means the complaint must include a name and that actual person must agree to work with all parties to resolve the issue. In other words if the listener will not give their name, address and allow the interfering station to work with them to resolve the interference, they don't count. If you jump those hurdles, the offending station is to work with complaining listeners to resolve the interference. Depending on the results, the FCC will make the call after everything has been filed and all steps have been taken. This never moves quickly and the instances I am aware of took a good 18 months or more to resolve. In one instance the translator moved to a different frequency to resolve the issue. In fact, the FCC expects both parties to work together to resolve the issue. In other words, the FCC says we know there's a problem and if you won't work together on resolving it, expect the FCC to not be happy with either party.
in one breath you say the FCC hasnt done anything about it then you say the FCC shot down Red Wolf.
It was resolved and I dont think Red Wolf did much to resolve it, i cant find certain story, I think Fybush said Red Wolf didnt particiapte in the testing the FCC required
This makes me laugh! Red Wolf alias Full power radio, which operates numerous transmitters in southeastern Connecticut, such as WMBW 106.5, WWRX 107.7, W28BS 104.5 to name a few, should be sited for major interference.
WBMW 106.5 causes intermod and interference from 105.6 to 107.5, WWRX 107.7 is so over modulated, its pathetic! W28BS BOMBA 104.5 causes intermod because it also over modulated, where WCTY 97.7, which is 1,900 watts ERP, which is on the same tower can not be heard on any other frequency besides 97.7, but you can clearly hear BOMBA intermoding as high up as 107.3 practically 2 miles from the tower!
This seems to only be an issue with stations owned and operated by John Fuller, alias full power, red wolf radio.
How does this FM broadcast band multi-channel hogger get away with this trash splattering across the FM dial?
There should also be a cap on how transmitters they own and operate, I believe there are a total of 10 in the same radio market!
WBMW 106.5 causes intermod and interference from 105.6 to 107.5, WWRX 107.7 is so over modulated, its pathetic! W28BS BOMBA 104.5 causes intermod because it also over modulated, where WCTY 97.7, which is 1,900 watts ERP, which is on the same tower can not be heard on any other frequency besides 97.7, but you can clearly hear BOMBA intermoding as high up as 107.3 practically 2 miles from the tower!
This seems to only be an issue with stations owned and operated by John Fuller, alias full power, red wolf radio.
How does this FM broadcast band multi-channel hogger get away with this trash splattering across the FM dial?
There should also be a cap on how transmitters they own and operate, I believe there are a total of 10 in the same radio market!
Sounds like you have an axe to grind and have factually incorrect info.
Where in blazes did you get the idea W246CC, which is Bomba on 97.1 is almost 20 miels from the WCTY tower
W258BI 99.5 which is US Country 99.5 is on the same tower as WCTY
Sounds like you have a shitty radio
Hes hardly a "bandwith hogger" and there is a cap on how many stations one can own and thats relative to the total number of stations in the market... and he hasnt hit that cap.
Sorry the FCC Connecticut FM frequency quarry just is not loading today, so I google what I could find, the 104.5 transmitter which is licensed to New London, but it is actually on the Cook Drive in Montville/Uncasville, tower same as WCTY 97.7.
I am still waiting for the http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?city=&state=CT link to load, no go. That link should list every FM station in Connecticut by frequency. The Google result I got, listed that as their call sign for that transmitter, I am not saying it is correct, just the only result I am getting for that frequency.
I would NOT bring this up, if it was JUST MY RADIO, so, perhaps you have some ties to Full Power Radio??? But I am not the only one who notices it, has experienced it, so, no it is NOT just my radio. It is just, most people think, at least the average radio listener, thinks that is how radio works and uses a cell phone to stream music instead.
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No ties to Full power radio, im from Colchester and in radio, but no longer in CT
Okay, so all due respect, you are NOT in the local area, to dispute my claims.
Am I not correct to say BOMBA radio, which broadcasts Spanish music is owned by Full Power Radio, yet, under, another, third name CO-CHANNEL COMMUNICATIONS LLC?
This is the FCC data base for that transmitter, licensed to New London, but, if you check the coordinates, the actual transmitter and antenna are located on Cook Drive in Uncasville, same tower as WCTY.
Here is the FCC link to that transmitter licensed as W283BW:
Now here is WCTY:
The coordinates for both stations are
41° 28' 30.30" N Latitude
72° 06' 15.20" W Longitude (NAD 83)
Although, W283BW claims to be in New London, its transmitter is located in Uncasville on Cook Drive.
W2832BW is using an effective radiated power of 0.25 kW
WCTY is using an effective radiated power 1,900 kW
In the Mohegan Sun Casino parking lot in Uncasville, you can hear BOMBA radio splattering across the FM dial on various different brand car radios, where as, you can only hear WCTY on its designated frequency, 97.7. Nowhere else, across the FM dial can you hear WCTY at that same location.
This map obtained from the FCC website, shows the transmitter location of W283BW, although the push pin shows it located in New London, the tab and the transmitters coordinates points to Cook Drive in Uncasville Connecticut, the WCTY broadcast tower. How can a 0.25 watt station bleed all over the FM dial, but not a 1,900 watt station?
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No, Im not in SE CT.. but i know the area quite well. Born and raised there.
Translators dont have a city of license coverage requirement so a translator can be licensed to one city and be 10-15 miles away.
It would appear like Co Channel communications is a legally seperate company from Red Wolf/Full power but possibly related to since the only translators Co Channel owns are rebroadcast Full Power stations
I suggest you contact full power, all their stations have website.. and lodge a complaint there. Complaining here won't do you much good, usually.
Correct, Full power has a unique way of shoe-horning translators into radio markets under various names, there is Full Power Radio, Fuller Communications, Red Wolf Radio and Co-Channel Communications. There may be a fifth, but I can not validate the ownership with 100% certainty.
So under all those names, John Fuller, has quite a few transmitters in operation in the same market area. Hall Communications has four, WCTY, WKNL, WNLC & WICH.
Cumulus has 3, WQGN, WMOS & WXLM.
Never mind calling the stations, talking to the staff members on the road, results in very rude responses, when you ask them why their stations create interference or why the modulation peaks are way higher than the other local stations, I would get the same response calling the station's receptionists.
The reason for my contribution to this conversation to begin with, was the fact that Red Wolf had the nerve to file a complaint of interference on WYPH-LP? It's a wonder they did not follow up with it, but, there may be a reason, sometimes, filing a complaint, gets the complainer, caught doing the same thing.
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LOL Thats not how you do it. You call up, ask for the station engineers email address, say you have an interference complaint, and go from there. But, if you approach them like you have on here.... then i can see how you'd get rude responses.
My approach on here, is the result of rude responses I got from station personal, when I asked them how do you contact the station's engineers. I do not think "How the F*** am I supposed to know?" Isn't very professional sounding to me. How about, "Call blah, blah, blah...." No the contest line is not the number to use, so I would not even attempt that.
Anyways, I Vented, this has been going on for some years now, so nothing is going to be done about it, but it did make me laugh, the company complained about an LP station.
Full Power Radio in Bloomfield is 860-243-1115. I can't find the number for their Ledyard office.
In the past I don't think WYPH-LP was operating legally. Until they were temporarily shut down they were coming in crystal clear in parts of Southington and Bristol. I don't believe a 100 watt station from Manchester should be coming in that strongly in Southington and Bristol. Now that the 102.5 translator for WBOM/1470 is on the air that's all I get on 102.5 FM.
In the past I don't think WYPH-LP was operating legally. Until they were temporarily shut down they were coming in crystal clear in parts of Southington and Bristol. I don't believe a 100 watt station from Manchester should be coming in that strongly in Southington and Bristol. Now that the 102.5 translator for WBOM/1470 is on the air that's all I get on 102.5 FM.
contact the society for broadcast engineers chapter in connecticut... theyll know who the engineer is, and one of the guys thats part of the SBE is a good guy.
You'd be surprised, I can hear Kool Radio 96.1 FM (WNTY 990 AM) here in Norwich on FM. Although I was told I was full of it, my videos have been taken down 3 times for copy-right violations and not authorized for public exhibition of a broadcast station's content, but it proved it reached my indoor FM stereo system with an indoor T shaped antenna. So if WNTY 96.1 FM can reach here, you'd be surprised what can happen with low powered translators. Oh, good God! I just realized, John Fuller/ Full Power Radio owns that station to!
WNTY (990 AM) is an oldies radio station licensed to Southington, Connecticut and serving the Hartford, Connecticut area. The station is owned by John Fuller, through licensee Red Wolf Broadcasting Corporation, and broadcasts with 2.5 kilowatts daytime and 80 watts nighttime from a studio and tower site on Old Turnpike Road in Southington.
~~~Translator(s) 96.1 W241CG (Southington)~~~
It is interesting to note, AM station WICH 1310 Norwich, originally had a construction permit for 96.1 FM, but, because of a strong signal from WNTY 96.1, they requested 94.5 FM instead.
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An indoor antenna is what I consider to be special equipment. That's probably how you're able to get 96.1 Kool Radio that far from Meriden Mountain where their antenna is mounted on the side of the 104.1 WMRQ tower.
Meanwhile when I used to be able to pick up 102.5 WYPH-LP crystal clear in parts of Southington and Bristol, I was not using any special equipment. I was using just the stock radio in a 2010 Honda Civic LX.
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