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WARD AND SAVAGE ASKING LISTENERS FOR DONATIONS FOR THEIR LEGAL TROUBLES

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ABQTom

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I'm new to this and I find it very unusual to hear talk show hosts asking for money from their listeners for their own legal problems. Mark Crispin Miller's email list constantly sends out info from Bernie Ward asking for donations - the latest says to "contact CITADEL to ask them to put Bernie back on the air." Today, Peter Weissbach in for Savage was asking listeners to send in money for Savage's lawsuit against CAIR.

I thought that in the radio biz, that if you did something illegal, or said something offensive, that you just had to accept your mistakes, and move on to another gig. Mike Webb, on KIRO in Seattle, was fired over a legal issue, and he didn't ask for special favors from his listeners. In fact, he stayed on the air - with a 2 hour nightly show on the net. Why isn't Bernie doing an Internet show? The technology is out there.

If I was a PD, I would have no problem hiring someone who had been fired for misconduct, paid his fines and did community service, and then submitted an application.

I'm sure that Ward can find another station to go on given his longetivity and ratings, or even get on Air America. Savage just needs to stop his hate speech.

What do you think about these simultaneous legal stories from the City by the Bay?

What do these two cases mean for the future of how talk hosts behave in private and in public?
 
If Savage wins a fat judgment in his civil suit (or a nice out of court settlement), and you contribute to his legal fees, does he share the judgment with you? Does he even give back the contribution since the lawyers get paid out of the judgment?
 
Re: EDITORIAL BOARD AT J. OF ORTHO. MEDICINE...WEINER OUT.

Interesting that "Michael A. Weiner M.A. M.S. Ph.D." is no longer on the editorial review board of the Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine. I wonder why / when this happened. When David F. Horrobin died in 2003, Weiner talked about the journal, I remember those programs.

So I wonder, was Weiner forced to leave by Hoffer because of his high profile, or, did he resign? Harold D. Foster Ph.D., another editor, is a world famous AIDS advocate and researcher, so it's possible that there may have been some conflicts between Harry and the homophobic Weiner. Hugh Riordan MD, a former associate editor, died in a fall in 2005 in his early 70's.

Anyway, maybe Savage and Ward can use their legal donations to go buy a 50kW station in the bay area - maybe the PIG. http://www.kpig.com/
Then KGO can compete with another station with mixed ideologies.
I just wish that for the sake of the talk industry, that Savage would drop his lawsuit. Likewise, Ward should just admit he was guilty, and agree on community service instead of jail time, which he would be very good at.

Can someone explain why Ward isn't admitting to this and instead trying to ask for money? If Bernie is reading this, please, we want you back on the air, just say that you're guilty and do some community service, and Citadel will put you back on. Bernie, that's your quote every night at 12:59:40, "It's easier to ask for forgiveness than it is for permission."

Editors:

http://www.orthomed.org/jom/jom.html
 
Julius Leonard Marx said:
If Savage wins a fat judgment in his civil suit (or a nice out of court settlement), and you contribute to his legal fees, does he share the judgment with you? Does he even give back the contribution since the lawyers get paid out of the judgment?
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I wonder if you guys have actually listened to Savage's show, or if you are just repeating the claims of various activist groups. I have. I give him points for not sticking to the GOP/administration line and challenging them on some points. I don't care if he or Imus make politically incorrect comments. So what if somebody gets their feelings hurt? If his "hate speech" is really dangerous (which I seriously doubt), that speech gets much wider circulation from all the people repeating it in order to denounce it. Activists are only encouraging these kinds of comments with all the free publicity they give to hosts who make them. (Barnum was right; there is no bad publicity.)

At the same time, you people ignore the very real clear and present danger posed by the ideas advocated nightly by the guy on opposite Savage, Mark Levin, (and others) who favor doing away with the separation of and balance of powers and turning the US into a presidential dictatorship (they call it the unitary executive theory). If you all want to get worked up, get worked up about something that matters.
 
I just find it a little ironic that Savage routinely beats up on the panhandlers that accost him daily in San Francisco... and yet he pleads for donations on his show every day.
 
Julius,

If you keep voting for the George W Bush clones then we will end up in a dictatorship. Savage is a racist period.
 
Savage racist?

I think you could honestly call Savage an opinionated hysterical old codger but not necessarily a racist. I have heard him on a number of occasions converse very politely with blacks, Arabs, Hispanics and any number of races. They were not liberals, however... so when he beats up on liberals don't assume it is racism.
 
Re: Savage racist?

Gnarlodious said:
I think you could honestly call Savage an opinionated hysterical old codger but not necessarily a racist. I have heard him on a number of occasions converse very politely with blacks, Arabs, Hispanics and any number of races. They were not liberals, however... so when he beats up on liberals don't assume it is racism.
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Agree, but then he says "liberalism is a mental disorder," which is inconsistent with the fact that a disproportional number of Hispanics and African Americans are well below he poverty line. Republican talk hosts don't have any solutions to this except to "work harder." Liberal talk hosts like Bernie Ward do have solutions to poverty through social assistance programs.

Gays and AIDS are another issue that should be mentioned. Savage is terribly homophobic and AIDS patients need much more help from both conservatives and liberals. Savage is no longer on the Editorial Review Board for the Journal of Ortho Medicine. Not sure why, but it so happens that AIDS researcher, AIDS geographer, and AIDS activist Dr. Harold Foster of Univ of Victoria / BC has just advanced to one of the top editors of the Journal.
 
Re: Savage racist?

ABQTom said:
he says "liberalism is a mental disorder"
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??? Maybe the Journal of Ortho Medicine didn't agree with his diagnostic methodology. :eek:
 
Re: Savage racist?

Gnarlodious said:
ABQTom said:
he says "liberalism is a mental disorder"
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??? Maybe the Journal of Ortho Medicine didn't agree with his diagnostic methodology. :eek:
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You might be right - the editor, Abram Hoffer, writes as director of the Huxley Institute for Biosocial Research...

"For this reason, we are asking you to support our effort to help schizophrenics and others suffering from mental disorders by becoming a member of our organization."

Well, the good doctor ceratainly doesn't want to exclude 95 percent of Socialists in Canada as members, who according to Savage suffer from a mental disorder! (Hoffer does his research in Canada.) LOL

http://www.schizophrenia.org/history.html
 
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