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Was anyone listening to WILK this morning?

masterg said:
In any event he sounded like a runaway train this morning, gathering momentum as he went. Luckily for him and WILK Nancy Kman showed up for the seven o'clock hour and was able t talk him down
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Why would she want to talk him down? The man was doing great radio. Somehow I suspect you already know that. My only problem is that I'm sorry I missed it. You want listeners? Be unpredicatable, unstable, angry, that'll bring 'em into the tent.
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Nobody who froths at the mouth over a harmless religious symbol, or anything else that innocuous is doing great radio, they're being a self-satisfying jackass. Great talk radio should serve to educate as well as titillate and sometimes even anger. Kevin never educates and is too angry and dismissive of opposing views too often which is why in my opinion, despite his being intelligent and articulate, he’ll always be hosting in a third-tier market.

And any time you want to meet for pizza and beer masterg I’ll be more than happy to prove to you that I’m NOT anyone that anyone knows, and not even semi-famous or even known in any broadcast or print media, although I was pretty well known in the scientific field but in a very narrow venue none of you ever intersected I'll bet, and thus you’re all wrong in assuming some sort of conspiracy!
 
Hey Masterg

We will have to agree to disagree. But just to be clear it isn't the U I think is hypocritical it is Kevin who I think is being hypocritical.

Have a nice holiday w/e.
 
Seriously, I have to agree with Masterg. Great radio is stuff that makes you go. huh? Also, you don't have to like listening to him, just listen. Arbitron is not judgmental. If people listen, it shows. As per Kevin's "views", has he pushed this atheist view in person? Off air? Out of the limelight? Remember, the king of all media, Howard Stern is incredibly shy in his private life. A shtick is a shtick.
 
waunderlust said:
Seriously, A shtick is a shtick.
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And if this a schtick then Kevin is leading a fairly gullible section of the population down the garden path in search of one thing - PROFIT!

Considering what he could be doing with his air-time, educating as well as infuriating if that is his schtick, it's all the more reason why he makes me want to vomit!
 
I've been told this is not schtick. I do not know first hand, but have heard from enough different people that it is no act.... If it is an act than it is.

Remember Howard's schtick was funny when he was the married, devoted husband, when he got divorced he just seemed like a lecherous dirty old man.....
 
Here's a thought; you hate the guy so much, why not call and hop right on his show, surely he'd welcome the opportunity to go toe to toe with you. Get this on the air and let's see where it goes. Is that physically possible? Am I talking to myself here?
 
lfcsuuite100 said:
Hey Masterg

We will have to agree to disagree. But just to be clear it isn't the U I think is hypocritical it is Kevin who I think is being hypocritical.

Have a nice holiday w/e.
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Listen, I have a ton of problems with the RC Church, but I could easily teach a class at any Catholic college without a second's hesitation. Although the UofS is a Jesuit school, remember that it is sponsored by the Jesuits. It's not run by the Church in the traditional sense. I'll also venture a guess that Bishop Martino never let's his foot fall on UofS property without a formal invitation.

In fact, Catholic college administration and faculties bristle at the hint of any interference from the Church, whether it be local or from Rome. I can say without any reservation whatsoever that Bishop Martino would never try and influence policy at the UofS, or Marywood, or King's. (You wanna weigh in here, Padre?)

Would I have a problem working for the Diocese of Scranton? Yes, indeed I would. We really are talking about two separate entities here, and the distinctions are neither fine nor vague.

You are a gentleman(woman?), thank you...
 
masterg said:
Here's a thought; you hate the guy so much, why not call and hop right on his show, surely he'd welcome the opportunity to go toe to toe with you.  Get this on the air and let's see where it goes.  Is that physically possible?  Am I talking to myself here?
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*Sigh* I really expected that you'd paid more attention masterg.

First off I don't "Hate" Kevin Lynn. I NEVER said that, ever! I don't "Hate" anyone. "Hate" is a waste of energy, an emotion to be reserved for some entity who has done you or yours a grevious harm. At the moment I have no such candidates and frankly never have. I actually think that, as I've posted here before, Kevin is intelligent and articulate and would make a worthy opponent in a debate. The harm Kevin has done is to himself and his audience. If you don't agree or haven't picked up on how he's done said harm and why what he does is a disservice to his audience and the area as a whole you never will.

But that's ok too. It'd be a boring world if everyone thought the same way.

Second, I HAVE several times, via e-mail, asked Kevin to debate any subject he pleases in at least an hour-long one-on-one forum. That request has been ignored. As I've stated before, I'm a "nobody" so I haven't the clout to get noticed enough to be invited to take up time on his show. I can't blame him for that as if he did it for me he'd arguably have to do it for every nobody out there.

Finally, I'm NOT going to do any "two minute drills". I have called Kevin in in the past and as I've said here, when I start rocking him back a bit on his "logical" heels he changes the subject and or just dismisses the argument with some snide remark and ends the conversation.

In my opinion the only way I can refute Kevin, draw attention to what I think he is doing, challenge what I think is WILK's management of news and MAYBE get people to think independently is thru my BLOG.

OK?

No hard feelings I hope! I consider you a gentleman / woman with a different opinion.
 
(You wanna weigh in here, Padre?)
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Not really. You are right in what you posted, and I have no problems with it. But I'd rather not put anything here that can be picked up by any talk show people and put on the air. People here and at Beale's sometimes say that I can use my real name 'cuz I have nothing to lose. That's not right; there are ways to get back and for that reason I am careful what I say.

But when the day comes that I get cancer and have a month to live, *then* watch this spot.
 
I guess Ill never "get" the disservice he's doing to himself or his audience. I just don't see it. It's a guy with a shtick/opinion on the radio. To some it's gospel, too others it's a turn off, too some it's fun to listen just like people rubber necking at a car wreck. You have a choice. Turn it off. I HATE some jocks' shtick and some jocks' voice. So, I turn them off. Look, I even listen to Steve Corbett for the latter reason some times...oh and Rush Limbaugh too. Numbers/listeners sell radio, not morality. It's ALL about cha-ching. Want to learn something, listen to NPR. (Oh, you are learning with Kevin. Some people think differently than you).

OH...Thanks lfcsuuite100 I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the demise of Howard after his divorce. When he was married it was a guy who could onlygetthisclose, then he was "free" and became lecherous. Plus, losing Jackie didn't help either.
 
I have a very deep love for radio. I loved listening to 0ld radio shows when I was a kid. 8) 8) 8)

Yes I still have a hand in the business. What bothers me today is the venum spit out by people who really don't understand the make-up of an audience.

Oh...sure...Kevin Lynn knows his audience!!!

Apparently NOT. He has his own little group that agrees with him and he'll let them talk on and on....then there's the poor sap that tries to make some sense to the subject and he or she is cut off.

Kevin Lynn is not a real talk show host. A real talk show host would moderate both sides and let all callers have their say. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
 
waunderlust said:
I guess I'll never "get" the disservice he's doing to himself or his audience.
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The disservice to himself is that he sounds like a vituperative jackass instead of an intelligent person. The disservice to his audience is that he plays to their prejudices instead of educating them to both sides of an argument. This exacerbates the biases they already have and we have enough blind hatreds and uneducated decisions being made here without him helping.
 
Look, guys, you're not getting it. Lynn gets it, you're not. He does what he does. You don't like it. You listen anyway. Don't you think that says something about you? I sure do.

He doesn't have to fit your definition of a talk show host, and knowing him as I do, he never will. Your definition will change before his style does. He is under no obligation to educate anyone. What, you gonna sit there and tell me that Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, etc., ever educated anyone? None of them ever presented an idea, or hard news story, that wasn't dripping with their strident Republican spin. Lynn's spin isn't right-wing, therefore he's a bad guy.

He wins. You lose. You still dislike what he does, yet you come here and talk about him. The more you talk about him, the more others do the same. It all helps build an audience.
 
The only reason some of us listen is there is no alternative for talk junkies. Kevin and the rest of WILK, are unopposed. Does not make him a good talk show host? Or is he just all that is out there?

However Masterg you are right on the money in your last post. His job is not to educate, it is not to moderate, alas it is not even to agitate. It is to get people to listen and drive up the numbers so WILK can charge more money for advertising. For those who expect something else listen to NPR, which on occasion I do.

I am of the firm believe though that if another station went talk, brought in a good foundation show,perhaps Hannity or steal Limbaugh away, that Kevin would go back to the bottom as he was when the Vop was Vopping him in listernship. Just my opinion.

One side note I used to listen to Lynn at WARM, I didn't even know who Fred Williams was until Kevin went on some tirade about him. I figured if he was good enough for a talk show on a competing network to comment on he must be worth a listen. I flipped over to the Fred Williams show and got my local talk show fix from Freddy from that day forward. Even though they were some times on at different time slots I had no reason to go back to WARM. It was the difference between flying first class and coach, there was no reason to listen to amature hour(s) when I could listen to Fred.
 
Interesting thread.I think WILK is a pretty good talk station despite it's 3.8 share in spring.Of course that means that 96.2% of NEPA doesn't listen.
I don't think " The Watcher " is Lynn.Too well spoken.Unless he intentionally dumbs down his radio show, the watcher writes like a journalist, which Lynn, IMHO, is not.

If you listened to Lynn in his last life on WARM, it's the same schtick today.Same coffee klatch calling in, same lack of balance in the opinions of the callers, same opposing points of view not welcome.Same stuff different decade.

He was, I thought, very interesting on TV.More controlled, time constraints forced him to use word economy.And he was, I thought, well informed in sports.

Also, getting callers in NEPA to talk radio is tough.Most of the time when you are hearing the long monologues it's because no one calls in. With a 12+ share of only 3.8 % of 575,000 people...it isn't that large a pool of potential callers, considering the active callers are about 5 % of the audience.Local talk in medium markets is tough to pull off.

To sum up my feelings...at WILK, like at most radio stations, the station is the star.
 
the watcher writes like a journalist, which Lynn, IMHO, is not.
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Lynn is an extraordinary writer. You may not like his radio/TV style, but the guy can write for both mediums very well. The Watcher overwrites, lots of bombast that really isn't necessary. Whether or not that is intentional is the question. Just so you'll now, I seldom listen to Lynn. I seldom listen to WILK, nor any other station for that matter. It's not a dislike for what they do, but rather my schedule, and the fact that I often enjoy the silence while driving.

I flipped over to the Fred Williams show and got my local talk show fix from Freddy...
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Vopper lost me when he launched his crusade against The Arena. My position was that building it was for future generations, not necessarily this generation, and certainly not for the seniors. Vopper pounded on it until he had those seniors whipped into a frenzy. Why he did so was never clear to me. I half suspect he did it simply to see how much influence he had on this community. In doing so, he nearly destroyed a very worthy project. The Arena is inarguably a smashing success. The irony in it all, IMO, is that the seniors now flock to the slots, tossing their money away with abandon, then turn around and bitch about tough they have it. Let me point out that I am but a short 8 or so years from being a "senior" myself. (God, that is so painful to say.)
 
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