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Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

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Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

The possible scenarios that most of you speak of for WRKO and WRKO are scary.
I'm thankful that none of you are high level programming decision makers for CC or
ABC/Entercom<P ID="signature">______________
Norm Rosen
</P>
 
Re: Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

> The possible scenarios that most of you speak of for WRKO
> and WRKO are scary.
> I'm thankful that none of you are high level programming
> decision makers for CC or
> ABC/Entercom
>
Well, who knows if these will happen. Of course if Rush/Beck/Noory/Drudge, etc.
move to 1200, they might STILL have _some_ AAR programming...or there's always 1430.
 
Re: Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

> > The possible scenarios that most of you speak of for WRKO
> > and WRKO are scary.
> > I'm thankful that none of you are high level programming
> > decision makers for CC or
> > ABC/Entercom
> >
> Well, who knows if these will happen. Of course if
> Rush/Beck/Noory/Drudge, etc.
> move to 1200, they might STILL have _some_ AAR
> programming...or there's always 1430.
>

Currently 1430 and 1200 are practically on top of each other- a strange simulcast. I will switch back and forth seeing which is better and can't tell a difference most times- maybe at night if I lived closer to one of the towers it would make a difference. AAR on 1200 50kW seems an unlikely scenario the more I think about it. But 1430- A class B with a decent daytime signal is probably safe. Most of the listeners seem to have chosen 1430 as their station already if the 12+ numbers are right.
 
Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

You seem suprised by this?
Aren't they supposed to be a dual broadcast-one station with two frequencies?

Or are they seperate stations?
Your post has me confused...

> Currently 1430 and 1200 are practically on top of each
> other- a strange simulcast. I will switch back and forth
> seeing which is better and can't tell a difference most
> times- maybe at night if I lived closer to one of the towers
> it would make a difference. AAR on 1200 50kW seems an
> unlikely scenario the more I think about it. But 1430- A
> class B with a decent daytime signal is probably safe. Most
> of the listeners seem to have chosen 1430 as their station
> already if the 12+ numbers are right.
>
 
Re: Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

> Currently 1430 and 1200 are practically on top of each
> other- a strange simulcast. I will switch back and forth
> seeing which is better and can't tell a difference most
> times- maybe at night if I lived closer to one of the towers
> it would make a difference. AAR on 1200 50kW seems an
> unlikely scenario the more I think about it. But 1430- A
> class B with a decent daytime signal is probably safe. Most
> of the listeners seem to have chosen 1430 as their station
> already if the 12+ numbers are right.
>
By day, 1200 covers a big piece of the western suburbs that, for all prctical purposes, can't get 1430. Similarly, parts of the North Shore that get a good signal from 1430 by day get a much weaker signal from 1200. By night, there is zero overlap in coverage and quite a large area between the stations where there is no coverage. Remember, 1430 is directionalized away from Boston at night.

As for putting progressive talk on WKOX when it increases power to 50 kW, the format is on quite a few BIG AM signals in major markets. Infinity has it on 1090 in Seattle, which is 50 kW-U; CCU has it on 620 in Portland OR, which is 25 kW-D/10 kW-N and despite having only half the power of three or four 50-kW AM signals in the market, has arguably the best signal because of its low dial position; CCU also runs progressive talk on 50-kW KTLK 1150 in LA, arguably the best AM signal in the Los Angeles basin (doesn't cover like KFI or KNX but it has a HUGE signal in the city and close-in suburbs); in Denver and Boulder, CCU runs progressive talk on KKZN 760 (50 kW-D/1 kW-N)--the day signal is a monster and the night signal is excellent for 1 kW; In Miami, CCU runs the format on WINZ 940 (50 kW-U), a full-market signal on a good frequency.

As I've pointed out in other posts, WKOX, after it upgrades, will not have a signal that really competes with WRKO's or WEEI's. The coverage will be approximately the same as WWZN's. WWZN does well in Boston and a few places nearby (as well as Sweden and Finland, which don't count) but does not have the suburban coverage of 680 or 850. The same will be true of WKOX, which will have the same kind of problems as WWZN west of 128 at night. In the absence of some other reason to change stations, no syndicator in its right mind would willingly move a program from WRKO to WKOX.
 
Re: Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

> Currently 1430 and 1200 are practically on top of each
> other- a strange simulcast. I will switch back and forth
> seeing which is better and can't tell a difference most
> times- maybe at night if I lived closer to one of the towers
> it would make a difference. AAR on 1200 50kW seems an
> unlikely scenario the more I think about it. But 1430- A
> class B with a decent daytime signal is probably safe. Most
> of the listeners seem to have chosen 1430 as their station
> already if the 12+ numbers are right.
>

In MetroWest, 1200 is the far stronger signal, as one would obviously expect. You can receive 1430 in a car radio during the day, but at night, 1200 is your only choice. For cheap alarm clock radios, 1200 comes in day and night, but 1430 has no chance most of the time, particularly at night; when 1430 aims its antenna at the northern suburbs inside 128, and 1440 in Worcester aims its antenna at Worcester's western suburbs, MetroWest receives fuzz.

(and even if the simulcast is strange, it's not as if Clear Channel was losing much by flipping 1200 to Air America from the old format).

I'd figure that 1430 is safe as well, if only under the idea that there's nothing else Clear Channel would do with the signal. 1430 hits the liberal hotbed of Cambridge, Somerville, etc. quite well, so I don't see anything happening here, even if Clear Channel keeps 1200 with AAR on the new stick. But I think that CC will at least wait a book or two with the Newton 1200 before changing the format.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> You seem suprised by this?
> Aren't they supposed to be a dual broadcast-one station with
> two frequencies?
>
> Or are they seperate stations?
> Your post has me confused...

They're two different stations that simulcast. 1200 is WKOX, licensed to Framingham, 20 miles west of Boston, with a signal blanketing the western suburbs while hitting some nearby areas as well. 1430 is WXKS (AM), licensed to Everett, 5 miles north of Boston, with a signal covering the immediate suburbs north of Boston, along with the city of Boston, albeit poorly at night.

Both began simulcasting in October 2004 with Air America. WKOX was formerly a brokered ethnic station served the area around Framingham, while WXKS aired satellite adult standards with a local morning show.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my opinion a simulcast should be two stations with very little overlap playing the same programming. It isn't that the two stations play the same thing, it is that in my experience and looking at radio-locator (questionable at best) the two stations have a large overlap area. No doubt the simulcast adds a few extra listeners and posters elsewhere in this thread have mentioned at night the difference is much more pronounced; radio and records normally puts WKOX as the lowest rated station in Boston after WXKS (they do not add the two stations together in error). If there is a radio shake-up in Boston and WKOX can pick up some big conservative talkers along with CC already having a vested interest in some of these talkers I think they would do it.

ADDED:

here is a good example of a simulcast with little overlap area:

http://www.whmp.com/coverage_map?id=QBHerWTf&mv_pc=28

> You seem suprised by this?
> Aren't they supposed to be a dual broadcast-one station with
> two frequencies?
>
> Or are they seperate stations?
> Your post has me confused...
>
> > Currently 1430 and 1200 are practically on top of each
> > other- a strange simulcast. I will switch back and forth
> > seeing which is better and can't tell a difference most
> > times- maybe at night if I lived closer to one of the
> towers
> > it would make a difference. AAR on 1200 50kW seems an
> > unlikely scenario the more I think about it. But 1430- A
> > class B with a decent daytime signal is probably safe.
> Most
> > of the listeners seem to have chosen 1430 as their station
>
> > already if the 12+ numbers are right.
> >
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by robbbc on 12/04/05 04:16 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

Ok, I see we are talking two different languages.
Yes, I know that WXKS was Kiss108's sister station that played statndards, while KOX was a stationt that CCU acquired in metro west.

The definition of simulcast (as I understand it) means two frequencies broadcasting from one source of programming.

When you said "overlap," you meant signal coverage.
So the controversy is over whether 'KOX and 'XKS AM cover the same area.

And my understanding was that, for the most part, they do not.
So, the way I see it, Clear-channel would want a more solid frequncy if they were to get the conservative powerhouse that they own rights to.

On the other hand, this is what the cotroversy in Newton has been about, with CCU wanting to erect a new tower for WKOX. As Scott Fybush has been reporting, there has been some progress on this, I believe.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my opinion a simulcast should be
> two stations with very little overlap playing the same
> programming. It isn't that the two stations play the same
> thing, it is that in my experience and looking at
> radio-locator (questionable at best) the two stations have a
> large overlap area. No doubt the simulcast adds a few extra
> listeners and posters elsewhere in this thread have
> mentioned at night the difference is much more pronounced;
> radio and records normally puts WKOX as the lowest rated
> station in Boston after WXKS (they do not add the two
> stations together in error). If there is a radio shake-up in
> Boston and WKOX can pick up some big conservative talkers
> along with CC already having a vested interest in some of
> these talkers I think they would do it.


The weird thing is that Arbitron still lists WXKS as being Adult Standards, while WKOX is listed as talk. They should be listed together, as simulcasts in the same market are.

I'd like to see ratings for both stations combined. I hear they do reasonably well in demographic and daypart breakdowns (particularly Stephanie Miller).

As far as WKOX dumping progressive talk when they upgrade, I don't see it. And they'll probably keep WXKS, unless they can find anything else worthwhile to do with the signal. I don't see them doing a talk station similar to the others in the market, since they'll get clobbered by the very heavy competition. I'm sure Premiere would benefit more by having their shows on a stronger, more established affiliate. They'll get paid anyway regardless of who's airing Limbaugh, etc. WKOX is still not going to be a flamethrower compared to other stations. Unless CC buys more stations, they're stuck with a small roster of stations in Boston, and their FM's (CC has been rolling out talk on FM stations where they can't on AM) are doing very well with their current formats.

WKOX at least separates themselves from the others with their niche talk programming.

<P ID="signature">______________
The Liberal Talk Radio Update</P>
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> Unless CC buys more stations, they're
> stuck with a small roster of stations in Boston, and their
> FM's (CC has been rolling out talk on FM stations where they
> can't on AM) are doing very well with their current formats.

Then again, word is that CC has bid on WCRB. If they get it, I wouldn't be surprised if that station went to conservative talk, with WKOX keeping the liberal talk.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> > Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my opinion a simulcast should
> be
> > two stations with very little overlap playing the same
> > programming. It isn't that the two stations play the same
> > thing, it is that in my experience and looking at
> > radio-locator (questionable at best) the two stations have
> a
> > large overlap area. No doubt the simulcast adds a few
> extra
> > listeners and posters elsewhere in this thread have
> > mentioned at night the difference is much more pronounced;
>
> > radio and records normally puts WKOX as the lowest rated
> > station in Boston after WXKS (they do not add the two
> > stations together in error). If there is a radio shake-up
> in
> > Boston and WKOX can pick up some big conservative talkers
> > along with CC already having a vested interest in some of
> > these talkers I think they would do it.
>
>
> The weird thing is that Arbitron still lists WXKS as being
> Adult Standards, while WKOX is listed as talk. They should
> be listed together, as simulcasts in the same market are.
>
> I'd like to see ratings for both stations combined. I hear
> they do reasonably well in demographic and daypart
> breakdowns (particularly Stephanie Miller).
>
> As far as WKOX dumping progressive talk when they upgrade, I
> don't see it. And they'll probably keep WXKS, unless they
> can find anything else worthwhile to do with the signal. I
> don't see them doing a talk station similar to the others in
> the market, since they'll get clobbered by the very heavy
> competition. I'm sure Premiere would benefit more by having
> their shows on a stronger, more established affiliate.
> They'll get paid anyway regardless of who's airing Limbaugh,
> etc. WKOX is still not going to be a flamethrower compared
> to other stations. Unless CC buys more stations, they're
> stuck with a small roster of stations in Boston, and their
> FM's (CC has been rolling out talk on FM stations where they
> can't on AM) are doing very well with their current formats.
>
>
> WKOX at least separates themselves from the others with
> their niche talk programming.
>

I think AAR trusting CC is like trusting a snake- CC is begging on the air for advertisers and plays horribly depressing PSAs constantly during the programming...I still hold that there are other stations in the Market "like" WWZN, WCRN, WBIX, WRCA and others that might clear more of AAR's product without tape delay and provide better signals at night- if only AAR could reach out to them. I half heartedly hope that you are right about AAR staying on WKOX but they seem so resistant to program the station to satisfy their listeners- Boston ain't Kansas.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> On the other hand, this is what the cotroversy in Newton has
> been about, with CCU wanting to erect a new tower for WKOX.
> As Scott Fybush has been reporting, there has been some
> progress on this, I believe.
>
You must be the last person on this board to get the word: The dispute between WUNR, WRCA, and WKOX vs the Newton Board of Selectmen was finally resolved at a Board meeting on the evening of November 16. That's not to say that some still-aggrieved Oak Hill resident might not find a way to sue the radio stations, but supposedly the matter was resolved in the stations' favor after the Mass Land Court overruled the Board's previous unanimous vote against the radio stations' proposal. An agreement between the stations and the City of Newton was signed and someone will probably post the URL where you can read it on-line.

It seems most unlikely that construction will begin before spring and I would not bet on completion of the project earlier than late summer of 2007, but sometimes these projects do move along more swiftly than that. This is a very complicated project, however. Five towers, THREE AM stations, WKOX 50 kW-U (three towers), WRCA 25 kW-D/17 kW-N (five towers day/four towers night), and WUNR 20 kW-U (five towers). I think the combination of number of stations, number of towers, and powers is unprecedented. I have not heard the plans for keeping WUNR on the air during the construction. To me, it would make the most sense to temporarily move WUNR to the WRCA site at 750 South St in Waltham so that demolition of the existing WUNR towers and the new construction could be done in the absence of RF from the existing station. WUNR could probably operate with close to its current 5 kW from the WRCA site. WUNR's existing array is quite similar to WRCA's--the most significant difference is the orientation 52 degrees (WRCA) vs 80 degrees (WUNR), but both arrays primarily protect stations in New York City. Somebody will probably want to do the job on the cheap, however, and will wind up spending a lot more money as a result.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my opinion a simulcast should be
> two stations with very little overlap playing the same
> programming. It isn't that the two stations play the same
> thing, it is that in my experience and looking at
> radio-locator (questionable at best) the two stations have a
> large overlap area.

As you say, "questionable at best". In the daytime there is some overlap, but both signals are listenable but rather weak in the primary area of the other.

At night, there is no overlap, and a huge hole in (listenable) coverage between the two in prime parts of Boston and the immediate metro suburbs west and south.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> > You seem suprised by this?
> > Aren't they supposed to be a dual broadcast-one station with
> > two frequencies?
> >
> > Or are they seperate stations?
> > Your post has me confused...
>
> They're two different stations that simulcast. 1200 is WKOX,
> licensed to Framingham, 20 miles west of Boston, with a
> signal blanketing the western suburbs while hitting some
> nearby areas as well.

But, not at night. WKOX then only gets the outer "metro-west" suburbs west of Route 128 and (not quite out to) Route 495. The immediate west suburbs of Boston within Route 128 get a very noisy, barely listenable signal from 1200 at night, and also get barely a trace, if that, of 1430 at night.
 
Re: Was: Re: Boston Talk Radio Shake-Up (Was: Re: If Entercom gets ABC...) [re: Betagamma]

> As I've pointed out in other posts, WKOX, after it upgrades,
> will not have a signal that really competes with WRKO's or
> WEEI's. The coverage will be approximately the same as
> WWZN's. WWZN does well in Boston and a few places nearby (as
> well as Sweden and Finland, which don't count) but does not
> have the suburban coverage of 680 or 850. The same will be
> true of WKOX, which will have the same kind of problems as
> WWZN west of 128 at night. In the absence of some other
> reason to change stations, no syndicator in its right mind
> would willingly move a program from WRKO to WKOX.

Yes, but some of the shows on WRKO, such as Rush, are syndicated by Premiere Networks, which is owned by Clear Channel. They may decide that it's worth it to move the show that their company syndicates to a station that they own.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> >
> You must be the last person on this board to get the word
No... I wished not to recite developments that, to me, were so hard to explain, it would be better seved for people to go to www.fybush.com. But you did one better and explained it yourself.

But the fact that the issue was resolved is the "development" I was referring to.
 
Rush Move Not Exactly Automatic

> Yes, but some of the shows on WRKO, such as Rush, are
> syndicated by Premiere Networks, which is owned by Clear
> Channel. They may decide that it's worth it to move the show
> that their company syndicates to a station that they own.

Or, they may not.

Consider San Francisco, where Clear Channel flipped "CNET Radio" KNEW/910 AM to talk. (Its historic format in the market was country.)

Many people, including yours truly, speculated that it was likely that Clear Channel would move Rush and Dr. Laura off KSFO/560, which had taken them from otherwise sports talk KNBR/680 a ways back. Why, we wondered, would Clear Channel mount a talk challenge to KSFO (and KGO, et al.), without Rush in that 9-noon hole?

Then, the surprise...just within the past year or so, KSFO re-upped with CC's Premiere for a new contract for Rush, keeping him on 560, while CC's own KNEW/910 continues as a talk station competing with KSFO.

It isn't automatic. In the case of Boston, even the upgraded WKOX signal may not be enough for Clear Channel to move Rush off of Entercom's WRKO...which is paying them money for him, after all...and probably a pretty princely sum.

-OA<P ID="signature">______________
Ohio Media Watch - <a target="_blank" href=http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com>http://ohiomedia.blogspot.com</a></P>
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> > > Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my opinion a simulcast
> should
> > be
> > > two stations with very little overlap playing the same
> > > programming. It isn't that the two stations play the
> same
> > > thing, it is that in my experience and looking at
> > > radio-locator (questionable at best) the two stations
> have
> > a
> > > large overlap area. No doubt the simulcast adds a few
> > extra
> > > listeners and posters elsewhere in this thread have
> > > mentioned at night the difference is much more
> pronounced;
> >
> > > radio and records normally puts WKOX as the lowest rated
>
> > > station in Boston after WXKS (they do not add the two
> > > stations together in error). If there is a radio
> shake-up
> > in
> > > Boston and WKOX can pick up some big conservative
> talkers
> > > along with CC already having a vested interest in some
> of
> > > these talkers I think they would do it.
> >
> >
> > The weird thing is that Arbitron still lists WXKS as being
>
> > Adult Standards, while WKOX is listed as talk. They should
>
> > be listed together, as simulcasts in the same market are.
> >
> > I'd like to see ratings for both stations combined. I hear
>
> > they do reasonably well in demographic and daypart
> > breakdowns (particularly Stephanie Miller).
> >
> > As far as WKOX dumping progressive talk when they upgrade,
> I
> > don't see it. And they'll probably keep WXKS, unless they
> > can find anything else worthwhile to do with the signal. I
>
> > don't see them doing a talk station similar to the others
> in
> > the market, since they'll get clobbered by the very heavy
> > competition. I'm sure Premiere would benefit more by
> having
> > their shows on a stronger, more established affiliate.
> > They'll get paid anyway regardless of who's airing
> Limbaugh,
> > etc. WKOX is still not going to be a flamethrower compared
>
> > to other stations. Unless CC buys more stations, they're
> > stuck with a small roster of stations in Boston, and their
>
> > FM's (CC has been rolling out talk on FM stations where
> they
> > can't on AM) are doing very well with their current
> formats.
> >
> >
> > WKOX at least separates themselves from the others with
> > their niche talk programming.
> >
>
> I think AAR trusting CC is like trusting a snake- CC is
> begging on the air for advertisers and plays horribly
> depressing PSAs constantly during the programming...I still
> hold that there are other stations in the Market "like"
> WWZN, WCRN, WBIX, WRCA and others that might clear more of
> AAR's product without tape delay and provide better signals
> at night- if only AAR could reach out to them. I half
> heartedly hope that you are right about AAR staying on WKOX
> but they seem so resistant to program the station to satisfy
> their listeners- Boston ain't Kansas.
>


Huh... you are ripping a company that has taken on more AAR stations than most other companies. Good figure.
 
Re: Uh.. I thought 1430/1200 was simulcast?

> > > > Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my opinion a simulcast
> > should
> > > be
> > > > two stations with very little overlap playing the same
>
> > > > programming. It isn't that the two stations play the
> > same
> > > > thing, it is that in my experience and looking at
> > > > radio-locator (questionable at best) the two stations
> > have
> > > a
> > > > large overlap area. No doubt the simulcast adds a few
> > > extra
> > > > listeners and posters elsewhere in this thread have
> > > > mentioned at night the difference is much more
> > pronounced;
> > >
> > > > radio and records normally puts WKOX as the lowest
> rated
> >
> > > > station in Boston after WXKS (they do not add the two
> > > > stations together in error). If there is a radio
> > shake-up
> > > in
> > > > Boston and WKOX can pick up some big conservative
> > talkers
> > > > along with CC already having a vested interest in some
>
> > of
> > > > these talkers I think they would do it.
> > >
> > >
> > > The weird thing is that Arbitron still lists WXKS as
> being
> >
> > > Adult Standards, while WKOX is listed as talk. They
> should
> >
> > > be listed together, as simulcasts in the same market
> are.
> > >
> > > I'd like to see ratings for both stations combined. I
> hear
> >
> > > they do reasonably well in demographic and daypart
> > > breakdowns (particularly Stephanie Miller).
> > >
> > > As far as WKOX dumping progressive talk when they
> upgrade,
> > I
> > > don't see it. And they'll probably keep WXKS, unless
> they
> > > can find anything else worthwhile to do with the signal.
> I
> >
> > > don't see them doing a talk station similar to the
> others
> > in
> > > the market, since they'll get clobbered by the very
> heavy
> > > competition. I'm sure Premiere would benefit more by
> > having
> > > their shows on a stronger, more established affiliate.
> > > They'll get paid anyway regardless of who's airing
> > Limbaugh,
> > > etc. WKOX is still not going to be a flamethrower
> compared
> >
> > > to other stations. Unless CC buys more stations, they're
>
> > > stuck with a small roster of stations in Boston, and
> their
> >
> > > FM's (CC has been rolling out talk on FM stations where
> > they
> > > can't on AM) are doing very well with their current
> > formats.
> > >
> > >
> > > WKOX at least separates themselves from the others with
> > > their niche talk programming.
> > >
> >
> > I think AAR trusting CC is like trusting a snake- CC is
> > begging on the air for advertisers and plays horribly
> > depressing PSAs constantly during the programming...I
> still
> > hold that there are other stations in the Market "like"
> > WWZN, WCRN, WBIX, WRCA and others that might clear more of
>
> > AAR's product without tape delay and provide better
> signals
> > at night- if only AAR could reach out to them. I half
> > heartedly hope that you are right about AAR staying on
> WKOX
> > but they seem so resistant to program the station to
> satisfy
> > their listeners- Boston ain't Kansas.
> >
>
>
> Huh... you are ripping a company that has taken on more AAR
> stations than most other companies. Good figure.
>

CC is about making money back as fast as possible to pay off their investors becasue of horrible management errors. They have had some cheap success stories with AAR so they continue to play it. They are "strange bedfellows" if you follow my meaning- I wouldn't send a thank-you note to CC quite yet. AAR should look at other options especially if WKOX decides to switch formats. They (WKOX) are the lowest rated radio station in Boston (above all those that get no ratings). The "thing" boston has going for it is that people "know" boston is a left of center town, you don't have to convince a potential affiliate. Would AAR be better off on a station that burns 10kW day and night, makes some money, and clears all or most of their shows (on time) over the current situation? Or should they put all their eggs in one basket hoping CC doesn't pull the rug (which it has done before)? If CC can't make a go of it in Boston with progressive talk, begging for advertisers etc, maybe AAR should look at other options. Improving New England signals in general should be a top focus at AAR and Boston is as good a place as any to start- not just waiting for WKOX/WXKS to get its act together.
 
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