Nice to see the overnight master come out of retirement!
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Watch out George Noory! Art Bell is coming to Sirius! Seriously!
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How many listeners does Noory get vs. the number of Sirius subscribers? Serious question (no pun intended), but I'm guessing he has nothing to worry about.
SimiRadioListener26 said:
Yeah, an Art Bell show on satellite radio could not even be considered competition for a terrestial radio program, and I say that someone who subscribes to Sirius/XM for in-car and online listening.
SimiRadioListener26 said:
And they won't compete anyway. Art's show will be on 10-1 Eastern.
barman said:
Exactly - and the odds of Bell getting 3 million of the 25 million are astronomical.
Perhaps the intent is not as to how many of the Sirius current subscribers will go to Bell but if he attracts new blood. That was why they grabbed Howard Stern and while Bell may not attract as many he may attract some. In the end it will be if the cost to add Art will be justified.
However Art Bell has always been my favorite and though my sleep pattern doesn't find me up all night like it once did I have tried to like George Noory and I just can't get into him. Art Bell had a way of balancing incredulity and skepticism with being sympathetic to his guests. You never knew how much of it he personally was buying but his interviews were always entertaining and fascinating. George on the other hand handles them like the news reporter he once was and he doesn't inspire the same flight of fancy that Art does. Often George seems condescending and other times he seems as if he is totally into the subject but at no time does he handle them as well as his predecessor.
However Art Bell has always been my favorite and though my sleep pattern doesn't find me up all night like it once did I have tried to like George Noory and I just can't get into him. Art Bell had a way of balancing incredulity and skepticism with being sympathetic to his guests. You never knew how much of it he personally was buying but his interviews were always entertaining and fascinating. George on the other hand handles them like the news reporter he once was and he doesn't inspire the same flight of fancy that Art does. Often George seems condescending and other times he seems as if he is totally into the subject but at no time does he handle them as well as his predecessor.
wadio said:
What you said about free internet for subscribers.
Also I think the Bell was popular with truckers and other overnight travelers who usually have Sirius in their vehicles so it might be a smart move to get even more to sign up.
wadio said:
I pay about $12 a month for both.
That's using the fuzzy math that absolutely all 25 million subscribers would listen to the "Anal Probes And Strange Lights In The Sky Show". Stern has learned that he is not shaking the foundations he thought he would jumping from terrestrial to satellite. Since leaving terrestrial, Stern's amount of show publicity he gets outside of the Sirius/XM bubble has been at best 1 or 2 mainstream talking points or references a year. Is Dr Laura still on satellite? What about Glenn Beck? Again, none of these people are "moving the meter" anymore since abandoning OTA radio.barman said:
No one cares about satellite radio. Noory can still sleep well at night.
barman said:
If you don't mind my asking, what does that cost? It's one receiver per subscription, right? Or maybe you listen online in your living room.
I've never understood why SiriusXM doesn't set the subscription price much lower and go for the biggest subscriber base they can get. There's no incremental cost per subscriber (as with streaming) other than the cost of setup and billing. Wouldn't it be better to have 100+ million subscribers at $5/mo? Carbonite makes money offering unlimited file storage for $5/mo. If SiriusXM was able to sign up 150-million subs at $5/mo each they'd double their income from subscriptions.
Any business can keep prices at the high end and remain a "boutique" business that attracts customers who'll accept it, but those offering customers a no-brainer value are the ones that flourish. With a small fixed margin per sale, large inventory and heavy competition it's not easy to maintain enough margin to stay in business.
But Satellite has none of those barriers. The overall cost per subscriber DROPS as subscriber base increases, there's no inventory to maintain and there's no competition for the particular service they offer. So what's stopping them from becoming a no-brainer for radio listeners? I don't get it.
wadio said:
It's $17.99 for one satellite radio getting 150 channels. Add another $3.50 for online service. When money got tight I called to cancel and they cut my rate in half so I now pay about $11 a month for everything. One car has the sat radio and in my other I patch my iphone or ipad into the regular car stereo (using a cassette play adapter) and listen in-car that way. At home I can listen on any computer or other device connected to the internet.
If you wanted to get online only, they now have that for about $15. Online now has many of the shows available "on demand" in case you missed them live. They have a 30-day free trial for the online service so Art Bell fans could give that a try to check out his first month on SiriusXM http://www.siriusxm.com/internetradio. Like I said, with smartphones you can even listen in car and it doesn't seem to suck up a lot of data with my listening habits.
Norry is one of the most stupid low hanging fruits on the radio evolution chain. I listen occasionally and he never fails to disappoint with his utter stupidity. Last night he was disputing global warming by saying "It feels cold outside". Even that poster boy of brain dead patients Tim Conway Jr seems like a Rhodes scholar compared with Norry.
If only KABC had someone other that effective antidote to insomnia (Peter Tilden) on, I would jump ship.
If only KABC had someone other that effective antidote to insomnia (Peter Tilden) on, I would jump ship.
Here in the New York area we have a choice of George Snorey on WOR or the Cumulus trucking show aka. "Red Eye Radio" on WABC. So I Googled overnight radio shows and came up with Jon Grayson, syndicated out of CBS's KMOX, St. Louis to a handful of stations.
I was a big fan of Doug McIntyre's "Red Eye Radio" and Grayson's show is similar in many ways. He talks about all kinds of news stories -- not just politics -- takes lots of calls, has plenty of energy, a sense of humor and most important, unlike Snorey, he has a personality. You might want to check out his show online.
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