WCBS #1 IN BIG APPLE....AND THE BAY HAS NO CLASSIC HITS/OLDIES STATION??

[VoteFM]

Makes alot of sense, doesn't it? The 4th biggest market in the country and no Classic Hits/Oldies??

Can't count The Band....A life-less retread, classic-rock bore!

KRTH/L.A. scores big....KOOL/PHX scores big....WOGL/PHILLY scores big....Q-105/Tampa scores big....The Walrus/San Diego scores big....and the list goes on! And they score in the all important PPM's!!

Whoever wakes up and jumps on this format first in the Bay....Wins Big!

Just like the #1 city dont have a country station lol

 

[1069_KIFR]

Someone needs to start a thread in the NY Board that says, " KCBS #1 in the City By The Bay!"

 

[sfradio]

Someone needs to start a thread in the NY Board that says, " KCBS #1 in the City By The Bay!"

you forgot "... and New York doesn't have an FM news station?"

 

[1069_KIFR]

I wasn't 100% sure.

 

[radioguy39nj]

Someone needs to start a thread in the NY Board that says, " KCBS #1 in the City By The Bay!"

you forgot "... and New York doesn't have an FM news station?"

....or a locally-oriented talk station on AM or FM!

 

[evalmaster]

Probably one of the most interesting models for a local talk station had to be WKXW 101.5 out of trenton nj. It's signal reaches from Long Island to Pennsylvania. They are a young-skewing talk station, big on the issues of the day but not leaning too heavily in either direction politically. I dont understand why we dont find versions of it in other parts of the country.

If KITS is dying a slow death on 105 it might be a good place to launch a classic hits for the bay area. Its unfortunate how fragmented radio has become. There is no one place to get that broad mix of music like the top 40's of the 60's and 70's. Unfortunately more and more people are turning to internet streams and spending less time listening ota.

 

[SFStatic]

The Band is too close to Classic Hits. Live couldn't survive with just a percentage of the classic hits listeners. Note that in most cases, the big radio companies won't go head to head with each other. that would require a full staff of personalities, TV advertising, marketing and programming remotes and appearances. None of them want to spend the money for any of those things, so they usually look for a format they can be relatively exclusive in.

 

[LKellerIII]

The Band is too close to Classic Hits. Live couldn't survive with just a percentage of the classic hits listeners. Note that in most cases, the big radio companies won't go head to head with each other. that would require a full staff of personalities, TV advertising, marketing and programming remotes and appearances. None of them want to spend the money for any of those things, so they usually look for a format they can be relatively exclusive in.

Sort of...but there's an immense amount of overlap in play lists. Star 101.3/Alice...KISQ/KBLX...The Band/The Bone/KFOG...Wild 94.9/KMEL/Movin'....not to mention KOIT and every other station that plays anything popular and "lite."

It's really more a matter of what the stations focus on and emphasize in their positioning. For example: KFOG plays new "World Class Rock" (a little) as well as classic rock, The Band leans toward mainstream classic rock (almost all hits, really), and The Bone leans toward harder stuff.

The only music stations I can think of in the Bay Area that can claim exclusivity are KDFC and The Wolf.

 

[radioguy39nj]

Probably one of the most interesting models for a local talk station had to be WKXW 101.5 out of trenton nj. It's signal reaches from Long Island to Pennsylvania. They are a young-skewing talk station, big on the issues of the day but not leaning too heavily in either direction politically. I dont understand why we dont find versions of it in other parts of the country.

If KITS is dying a slow death on 105 it might be a good place to launch a classic hits for the bay area. Its unfortunate how fragmented radio has become. There is no one place to get that broad mix of music like the top 40's of the 60's and 70's. Unfortunately more and more people are turning to internet streams and spending less time listening ota.

NJ 101.5 leaned heavily for Gov Christie in last year's election. When Christie was elected, the Jersey Guys proudly proclaimed that for the second time in 101.5s history as a talk station, they had brought down a sitting governor, first Florio in 1993 and Corzine in 2009. They don't lean Dem or Repub, but rather position themselves as populist.

WKXW was the only place to talk about the 2009 NJ governor's race, since WABC and WOR were too busy with national issues. They covered it as an afterthought.

BTW, isn't KITS the new Raiders' flagship?

 

[travisl5678]

Yes it is,but i don't think it means that it will go sports anytime soon,I remember 106.9 KFRC used to carry the A's in the 2008 Season

 

[icybluelake]

What does all this have to do with the Bay Area? KGO, of course -- I firmly believe that NYC is one market where the KGO model would work well. I'd make it live, very LOCAL a la KGO, center or left-of-center but definitely less politicized than its competitors -- and I think you'd have a lot of people finding a reason to tune in, in spite of the abysmal trends buffeting AM radio.

Your assummption is that KGO is doing well. It's not. While billing is slower to decline (although it is off 40% since '02), KGO spends most of the time in PPM somewhere south of 20th in 25-54, the key sales demos. KQED is, on the other hand, in the top two or three, even if they are not commercial. And KCBS, an AM and FM simulcast, is around 5th.

Aside from the now-dismal ratings, KGO is a product of around 40 years of being in the format. A startup in talk on a good AM facility in today's economy might have years of losses... and never succeed if on AM.

I did assume that KGO was doing better than it is, apparently.

Also, sorry to take this thread into New York territory.