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WEEI shifts... Ordway and Holley, new midday show with Louuuu and Munansky

Clearly a panic move. However, weren't Dale and Holley beating 98.5 in the ratings? Why not bring someone else aboard with Ordway? I feel bad for Arnold, but, truthfully, he wasn't offering much. However else you see the moves, we all should agree that EEI is worried. This is somewhat of a head-scratcher. Isn't the real answer to get on FM?
 
by the way, I realize I spelled Mike's name wrong--MUTANSKY. And I agree it smacks of a desperation move to 'freshen up' The Big Show. I actually like Holley but I think Felger and Mazz have the best show on sports radio in Boston. I know Felger rubs a lot of people the wrong way, he's arrogant and cranky. Exactly why I like him. Well, not so much the arrogance but the fact he goes against the grain and doesn't always act as a cheerleader for the Boston teams.
 
Felger won me over last year when he devoted a segment to convincing me why Deion Branch was a better fit for the Pats. I think last season proved him right, overall. He's annoying, but he says things that are original. Mazz at least doesn't get in the way. To his credit, he's much better talking baseball. I still don't see the Big Show winning this one. It's like 96.9 re-arranging the chairs -- make some bold moves, at least.
 
On Tuesday, Julie Kahn, vice president and market manager of Entercom New England, told the Globe, “This is the third effort to come after us at ’EEI. The best content will win.’’
From boston.com July 17 2009
Yes, Julie it will! Look who's getting nervous.
 
Desperation or just common sense ?
I like the change.
Dale is very lame.
Holley is cool.
Quite clearly if one wants knowledgable baseball talk the new midday WEEI show will have it, The Sports Hub less so.
 
i don't get this move either look as if there going fresh in the middays when thats there strongest ratings wise!!! what happens when football is back and lou is a baseball guy not football, and isn't muttnasky a weekender??? i would have put Glenn in middays and moved dale and Holley to afternoon, could dale wanted too much money with his contract negotiations?? what stops him going to the sports hub ???? middays?
 
put Glenn in middays
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At his salary? I don't think so. And he has it in writing what shift he works.


They needed to get younger. But I'm a bit surprised they are taking Merloni away from Ordway during the long Bb season. I think a little of Holley goes a long way.

Their morning-drive strategy is interesting. Thinking they can win this race with a "hard talk" mix seems outdated: maybe they don't have any choice. At least until D&C's contract comes up again. Until then they figure to slowly lose ground.
 
Hey, if Boston doesn't wish to carry Dale's intellectual approach to sports talk, he should look at reviving some of these shows Atlanta's sports stations are trying to force feed the fans. Granted, not the most energetic, but he knows his stuff. I'm a Boston transplant five years removed, and trust me, my Beantown brotheren--you have it better than you think with him in the mix. Considering Boston's a #10 market, and ATL's now #7, you'd think a full day of quality shows would be available here. Two stations, and MAYBE two or three shows worth local listenership and support between the two. DALE, if you're reading this prior to you broadcast...Thrashers' talk does make a blip on the radar in Atlanta (Note their key signing yesterday). Now, while the Beanpot isn't on the radar, if you cover College Football worth a lick, YOU'RE A SINCH to make it at least a midday program host here. FOLKS, consider that streaming programs worldwide is now a realization, I reiterate that you could have it a lot WORSE than Dale Arnold. Merloni's a good one, no doubt, but let's see where the proverbial chips fall from this panic move... :-\
 
Wow! The haters are salivating over this one. I don't understand how the Big Show engenders so much hatred when the alternative is Felger, of all people. I guess maybe I'm a Felger hater. I think that the Holley to drive time move is brilliant. It changes the Big Show for the better and keeps Holley away from 98.5. All of the message boards seem to think that Tony Mazz. is a weak link and Holley would be a great replacement. I hope that this forever ends appearances by Larry Johnson, Butch Sterns, Steve Burton, and others. They weren't really clear about guest hosts. Will there still be two, or one, or none?

I think Merloni will be good, but Mutnansky just doesn't know enough, he has no real resume. All of the other hosts have much stronger credentials. Dale attracts too many hockey calls. I won't miss that. It sounds like Dale is going to have an expanded weekend role. I hope that hastens the second demise of Mustard and Johnson.
 
It's multi-fold. EEI' isn't hurting for money, their ratings on the other hand are different. Arnold is a class act. I love the way he's signing off, sort of he even gave props to Andelman (class). I almost even give props to EEI' for letting him. He articulated his disappointment and how the palette-able portion of the shift is doing play-by-play. Not a lot of broadcasters would even get the opportunity. I shows the cache and respect, a least some, they have for him. As far as Ordway-Holley? That was probably a "We've got Holley signed until 20XX and have to honor it or loose him." type of situation. This is coupled with the fact if you can't keep Arnold and boot Holley because you'd lose all the semi-favorable good will they've received since D&C's gaffe years ago. Gotta love Ordway, "we'd better get along or else" attitude. Holley must be thinking, 'I've got 2 kids and a wife, working around this? what the number to BZ' FM?'

Finally, Entercom Boston doesn't have a competitive enough stick to compete with BZ' FM. 93.7 Mike saves them money, but has a sucky signal. Their other stick AAF' is just as bad 97.7 included. They're not about to buy another station, even they feel the recession, oops economic downturn, which would cost them 35-40 (bargain) million for a decent signal. The more realistic cost would be 50-60 because they're so desperate and the seller would know that. This is a market in which nobody's moving.
 
Obviously I'm biased because I'm only a few miles from the WMKK stick but I would think that their signal is pretty good north of Boston and I'd hope in Boston proper itself and would also be
fairly good to the west and slightly to the south of town, and I've said before it would be great for
me if at least the Sox games got on 93.7 given where I work, etc. Maybe it's not good for some
but check out this (not totally accurate but who knows) map from radio-locator:

http://radio-locator.com/pats/WMKK_FM_LU.gif

If that's to be believed, and again it can't be totally accurate, that's quite a lot of ground covered within the red and purple circles. Although admittedly radio-locator does define the purple circle
as only working on certain radios:

http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/page?p=maps

>>(RED) Local Coverage: Within this area, you should be able to receive the radio station on almost any radio with moderately good to very good reception.
(PURPLE) Distant Coverage: Within this area, the signal of the radio station may be weak unless you have a good car radio or a good stereo with a good antenna. You may not be able to receive the station at all on walkmans or other portable radio

Yes, note that last part but if you have a GOOD car radio, or a good antenna, etc.

If you confine it to just areas within the red circle then yes, it doesn't cover the whole metro
but it covers quite a bit and perhaps using 97.7 for what it doesn't cover can be the whole picture. And keep WEEI on 850 as well, but use the FM simulcasts (though who knows, they
could eventually just move EEI to FM)

Sports Hub, by comparison. A bit more centrally located!
http://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=WBZ&service=FM&status=L&hours=U

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The added choice of WBZ-FM has cut into a lot of the WEEI audience though it's still
fairly respectable. If EEI is starting to lag, is it the signal (i.e., is 98.5 better for people,
say, at work?), or the people on the air? They're doing the host shuffle, to be sure.

I think Ordway may have been saying EEI is #1 among men and women in the target demo,
though I think WBZ-FM may be #1 in the target demo men only. Whatever it is, we've got
a ratings battle here. Can WBZ-FM be seen as appealing to a slightly younger audience?
At least maybe younger listeners would prefer something on FM (mp3 players with radios
tend to be FM only..) As I've joked, Sports Hub is for guys in their 30s who still live in
mom's basement. WEEI is for guys in their 50s who still live in their mom's basement.

I'm 49 btw; mostly I'd just listen to Sox (if I could only get it clearly at work!) rather than
sports talk, but who knows, once baseball season starts. I can get 98.5 anywhere at work.
I can get WEEI only in areas like the break room.

If the Sox were simulcast on 93.7 (games only, not all of WEEI) I could get it at work very very clearly.
 
Farnsworth: About a million years ago there was a DJ on WAAB in Worcester named the Fabulous Farnsworth. Any relation or relationship?
 

this is one of the reasons I stopped listening to most of WEEI's programming--"celebrity" callers like Frank. They don't seem to have those quite as much on the Hub.


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I agree. 'EEI indulges these so-called celebrity callers too much. I often hear callers say that they were on hold for over an hour, yet I hear Frank from Gloucerster every day. I've been listening to 98.5 on weekends and they're starting to creep in. I've heard Joey from the N.E., Danny from Quincy, Steve from Fall River, Angelo from Everett and some of the other usual suspects. Unless they've changed, Mustard and Johnson is the haven for obnoxious callers.
 
Mixed feelings about this announcement. Sorry to see Dale go, as I thought the midday show was one of the better ones on 'EEI.

Dale sounded dreadfully depressed during a good portion of today's show, especially during the cross-over shortly before 2:00. I guess I can understand it, but it's not like he's being let go. He will doing some Celtics play-by-play, some 30 or so Sox games, a weekend gig and serving as a fill-in for vacationing hosts. I think that's pretty good considering the job market still being what it is. Wouldn't those who have lost their jobs be so lucky as to have a diminished role created for you.
 
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