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WEEI shifts... Ordway and Holley, new midday show with Louuuu and Munansky

@ Art Spooner, Sorry no relation.
The simulcast would be a temporary, albeit a good idea in the interim for their sports teams it would be great to not have to use my iPhone App all the time to get a clearer reception and I'm next to Boston too.

The post about the demos is spot on. Dale, I got nothing but radio love for ya, but while you're not long in the gums yet, you're up there. You're a great broadcaster, probably one of the best play by play broadcasters in New England. That's more of a strength for you at this career point, IMO.

EEI's demo is older, while I don't think Merloni and Munansky(sp) are the answer, EEI' never thought it'd have to cultivate young talent. They let Wallach walk to the competition. Meterperrell(sp) could hold a show on his own either. It's a shame, but what do you do? Cut back on Mike Adams and put Dale there? NO!

Lastly, the weekend callers on EEI' are TOOOO predictable, note to Program Director, 'NOBODY wants to hear the same callers, Yankee Talk or not every single weekend. Get a call screener with some nuts', and tell the callers 'once every two weeks or a month, because it does get redundant, I completely agree.

Lastly +1, You can't mess with the money makers Morning and Afternoon Drive, so Dale unfortunately you're the odd man out. Hell, 20 years! Dude, that's kind of the problem with this market. I acknowledge Arnold's good, but 20 years? Boston is the only market where the the Matty's and Dales and Loren and Wally's and the Mike Adams (MJX) get tenure its like state government on radio, I almost forgot Howie. It's very interesting to me. Fresh talent almost never gets an opportunity here. Just my dos cents
 
"...Boston is the only market where the the Matty's and Dales and Loren and Wally's and the Mike Adams (MJX) get tenure its like state government on radio..."

That sums it up very nicely (and correctly).
 
ChrisNH said:
"...Boston is the only market where the the Matty's and Dales and Loren and Wally's and the Mike Adams (MJX) get tenure its like state government on radio..."
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Matty is still bringing it, otherwise I agree.
 
i think he only has a year left so instead of just letting him go they found a use for him and i think it shows respect to go out gracefully!! i also think after a year he just might retire or goto the sports hub!!
 
Perhaps this may work out well for Dale. If Gil Santos does one more year of Patriots PBP then retires (as been speculated) then Dale may be the choice. WEEI would have just shot themselves in the foot again.

WEEI has another problem since D&C is now also on NESN. Many of the fill-ins they used in the past have CSN connections now (Dickerson, Neumy, Curran and you can throw DeOssie in there as well) and obviously NESN wouldn't want them on. Having Dale available for morning fill-in helps alliviate that problem.
 
The more I think about this, the less I understand why Mutnansky was chosen for this slot. Merloni has made a pretty good shift to media personality, but is still a neophite. I would think that you'd want to pair him with someone with more seasoned. I actually wondered why Mutnansky even got the weekend job that he had. He seems to be a pleasant enough fellow, but very light on experience. He's only about 30, other than being a flash boy and fill-in, what has he done? Has he ever covered a team? I don't think he's any kind of ex-athlete. He sounds like a younger, educated, version of Larry Johnson, with a much better voice.

Are we going to find out that he's related to someone named Wolfe or Kahn?
 
Perhaps this may work out well for Dale. If Gil Santos does one more year of Patriots PBP then retires (as been speculated) then Dale may be the choice. WEEI would have just shot themselves in the foot again.

Just wondering, but how would Arnold replacing Santos be a shot in the foot to WEEI?

If the Pats aren't going to be on WEEI, why would WEEI care who does the PBP? It wouldn't affect them, since the Pat listener is lost to them anyway while the game is on. The idea that folks who would normally listen to WEEI during the time the Pats are playing are now going to switch to the game because Dale is doing the PBP is a stretch.

And, not to put too fine a point on it, Dale is the weakest player in WEEI's weekday game, and the most easily replaced. And nobody is making any serious programming decisions based on who is available for occasional fill-in duty.

Regards,
TSB
 
TSBench said:
And, not to put too fine a point on it, Dale is the weakest player in WEEI's weekday game, and the most easily replaced.
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Really? Is that why he has been on-air at the station (with 3 different cohosts) for the past 20 years?

Regards,
radiorama1
 
I listen to WEEI in portland maine to WPEI, I've never heard the sports hub for more then a few minutes driving thru boston every now and again. I don't care about what that station does or their people. I consider Dale and Holly to be hands down the best show on EEI, and I'm sorry that I won't be able to listen to them EVERYDAY. Also, I enjoy the hockey talk ! There are 4 teams in Boston, and the rest of the EEI host seem to only cover 3, 95% of the time.
 
radiorama1 said:
TSBench said:
And, not to put too fine a point on it, Dale is the weakest player in WEEI's weekday game, and the most easily replaced.
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Really?
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Why, yes, he is the weakest link amongst the major players. Only in Lake Wobegone are all the radio hosts 'above average.'

Regards,
TSB
 
TSBench said:
radiorama1 said:
TSBench said:
And, not to put too fine a point on it, Dale is the weakest player in WEEI's weekday game, and the most easily replaced.
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Really?
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Why, yes, he is the weakest link amongst the major players. Only in Lake Wobegone are all the radio hosts 'above average.'

Regards,
TSB
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Fact of the matter is, almost ANYONE in this town can be replaced (with a rare exception, such as Matty--- 'bout it in this market)...

I think Dale's dismissal has more to do with the fact that the ship was sinking--- and Jason had to make a move... ANY move... just to make one... to save his own hide (call it "Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic", cliché, but very true.) ... so he makes the change with the midday shift... far less drastic than changing up morning or afternoon drive... ok, he added Holley to afternoons but he didn't REMOVE the "key piece" to the puzzle. At least he can now tell the stockholders "I made a move".

Say what you will, but Dale wasn't what was--- or is--- broken at WEEI.

Regards,
radiorama1
 
ArtSpooner said:
The more I think about this, the less I understand why Mutnansky was chosen for this slot. He seems to be a pleasant enough fellow, but very light on experience. He's only about 30, other than being a flash boy and fill-in, what has he done? Has he ever covered a team?
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Have you considered the possibility that Entercom....in addition to shaking things up a little....might be trying to save a few bucks at the same time?

It's a good guess that Mutnansky might be working cheaper than some of the other candidates they may have considered.
 
Dighton Rockhead said:
Have you considered the possibility that Entercom....in addition to shaking things up a little....might be trying to save a few bucks at the same time?

It's a good guess that Mutnansky might be working cheaper than some of the other candidates they may have considered.
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They're saving money by giving Holley a raise, continuing to pay Arnold his entire salary for another year only to sit on the sidelines, and then also promote two part time guys to full time?
 
Many of the comments I read here and elsewhere would lead one to believe that WEEI is going down the tubes and it's all because of TSH.. From what I can see, it's pretty much neck and neck with each popping up as the leader from time to time. Does anyone have the number of listeners for WEEI, before 98.5 vs. what it is now? I can't believe that D&C lost a lot of listeners to T&R. They just don't have the same type of show. How much have T&R's listeners increased since they became TSH instead of BCN?

I can only assume that if you listened to D&C before 98.5 that you did so for the sports talk or you were a conservative Republican. Why would you switch to the other show, who have a very limited amount of sports knowledge and don't talk about politics?

Afternoon drive is a different story. The Big Show had a lot of faults. Too many people talking at once, bad co-hosts (LJ, Stearns, Burton, Smerlas, et al), fawning over Belichick and the Pats, and indulging the so-called celebrity callers. I can see that if you can stand Felger, that people would switch at least until his act wore thin.
 
Re: D and C--despite all the negative comments about them in spots like the comment boards at Herald and Globe, they still are doing fairly well. SOMEONE is listening. Various listeners to EEI or 98.5
complain about diff. shows and hosts ("bring back Sheppard!") and there are so many different
opinions.

They're indeed neck and neck and this move is a sign that WEEI doesn't want to fall into also-ran
territory. With the money they spent on Sox, the last thing they want is for the station as a whole
to suffer in the ratings...now, if EEI's ratings were like what WRKO got last period, you could consider it a disaster. My joke comparing Wolfe to the Animal House char trying in vain to re-assure the crowd
"remain calm! all is well?!?!?!?" meant that they were trying to divert attention away from the fact that they now have strong competition and they'd rather not even mention this if possible.

The likes of an Ordway or Wolfe could be asked, "Is the competition from 98.5 why you're doing this?"
and they'd respond, "We just want to shake things up a bit, try something different." (In other words...yes. It's like the Joey Bishop movie Jerry Williams used to talk about; Bishop is with his mistress in a hotel room, IIRC, and Bishop's wife walks in and catches him in the act. The mistress calmly puts her clothes back on and leaves and Bishop's wife asks, "Who was that woman I saw you with just now?"

Bishop: "...What woman?"

So, "is 98.5 why you're doing this?"
"We just want to shake things up a bit..."

In other words, Operation Change The Subject.)

Maybe all is half-decently well but EEI doesn't dominate 98.5 like they did the competition
at 890, 1510, etc.
 
The movie was "Guide for the Married Man". One of the funniest ever. It starred Walter Mathau, Robert Morse, and dozens of short skits by the biggest stars of the mid-sixties.

Deny. Deny. Deny.
 
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