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WFNK vs. WBLM... The Battle of The Commercial-Free Hours

Two Portland FM stations, 102.9 WBLM and 107.5 WFNK, are battling each other using commercial-free hours, in addition to very similar-sounding playlists.

WBLM, the Blimp, has been in the Portland market since it's progressive rock, hippie days in the 70s. A few years ago it had been "Classic Rock that Really Rocks." But about three or four years ago, WFNK, Frank-FM, came to the market and quickly went to #1 with it's playlist of mostly Classic Rock hits that were less hard-edged than The Blimp. America and Cat Stevens could be heard in Frank's playlist. Till Frank's arrival, WBLM usually was #2 in Portland, behind country WPOR.

Now it sounds like WBLM is a bit more hit-oriented and not as hard-edged as in the past... moving to a sound closer to Frank-FM. Currently both stations are tied at #4. And both stations are using commercial-free hours as a selling point.

Frank-FM has a frequently-seen TV commercial, stressing that its workday starts commercial-free for three hours, 9 A.M. till Noon. I haven't seen any WBLM commercials on TV, but on its airwaves, The Blimp tells us they have a workday starting commercial-free for two hours at 8:30 A.M. (That's a half-hour sooner than Frank.) And the end of the workday is also commercial-free for two hours, I think starting at 4 P.M.

I'm not sure I understand that logic. You want a commercial free start to the workday if you're targeting office listening. That way the radio gets set to your station at the start and likely stays there all day, even after you resume playing commercials. But how does a commercial-free END build listenership? In the middle of a busy workday, will you say, I should SWITCH stations because WBLM is commercial-free starting at 4pm? Actually, I've never heard of rock stations doing commercial-free workday hours because they usually aren't as office-friendly as AC or Smooth Jazz. Would you want your dentist or attorney to have a rock station playing in the waiting room or office, especially if you're not a rock fan?

Some more irony... WBLM many years ago was at 107.5 and moved to 102.9. Today Frank takes up The Blimp's old dial position. Both stations have Class C, 100,000 watt signals that really blanket Southern Maine and a chunk of New Hampshire. And both stations rely on a core of classic rock artists such as Led Zeppelin, Boston and The Stones from the 70s and 80s, with a few 60s thrown in.

How can these stations afford to go commercial-free for three or four hours a day? Are sales down anyway so they're using a slack time to their advantage? It doesn't sound to me as if the other hours of the day have an increased commercial load. How can they afford to miss so many commercials?


Gregg
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Gregg, are you sure that 107.5 has that powerful of a signal? I used to live in Old Orchard Beach and could NEVER get them in that well, while 102.9 was always clear.
 
KML-224 said:
Gregg, are you sure that 107.5 has that powerful of a signal? I used to live in Old Orchard Beach and could NEVER get them in that well, while 102.9 was always clear.

the 107.5 frequency as of 2008 is a C1 at 100,000 watts at 283 meters HAAT from a location NE of Sebego
 
OK. Then it was a recent change, because WBLM-FM was never that strong back in their days at 107.5 FM. I lived in O.O.B. from September of 1985 to June of 1987, in case anybody needed the timeframe here.
 
Gregg:

Very well written post. Interestingly, Frank became the top billing station in Portland almost right away despite the limited commercial load. WBLM is number 2 and remains that way today. However, now that they have reduced inventory for the first time it will be interesting to see what happens. They are having major sales issues right now that will probably impact their 2008 revenue far more than the reduced inventory.

What does this all mean....bascially that most radio stations have far mor inventory than they can really sell at decent rates, so the reduced inventory cuts down on clutter, the crappy Per Inquiry advertising stations these stations would generally run and, in a good economic market, actually increase rates and revenue for these stations.
 
KML-224 said:
Gregg, are you sure that 107.5 has that powerful of a signal? I used to live in Old Orchard Beach and could NEVER get them in that well, while 102.9 was always clear.

For many years including the era that you are mentioning, WBLM was a Class B station at 107.5. From 1973-1983, the transmitter was located mid-way between Augusta and Lewiston. Around 1983, it was relocated to a site about mid-way between Lewiston and Portland, and they used that site until moving to 102.9. Mike Bushey of WBLM was also a very good Program Director from the early 80s in Maine radio, although I believe he now lives in California and is out of the business...
 
OK. An upgraded signal of some sorts was mentioned. I assume that WFNK-FM is still licensed to Lewiston, ME. Where is their transmitter today? Isn't the WBLM-FM transmitter somewhere near the one for WGME-TV/DT (CBS) channel 13 of Portland?
 
According to www.radio-locator.com, the WFNK transmitter is just northeast of Sebago Lake. Is that where Channel 8's new tower is or did they build it just for WFNK? Since WFNK is licensed to Lewiston, it can't be too far from that city.

And yes, WBLM is on top of the Channel 13 tower in Raymond. That tower is about the same height as the Empire State Building, yet WBLM gets to broadcast at 100,000 watts from that high up.

Portland is in the Class B antenna and power territory (including most of the Northeast, west to Chicago and Milwaukee, south to Norfolk, VA, and also Southern California). FM stations may only run 50,000 watts on a 500 foot tower, or the equivalent.

But that border runs only a few miles north of Portland, so if you put your tower north of that dividing line, you can run Class C power and height (max. 100,000 watts, 1500 foot tower).

In addition to WBLM and WFNK, the Portland-area Class C's also include WMEA, WLOB-FM and WHOM. (94.9, at one time a weather station that used to transmit Mt. Washington conditions to Boston before it became an FM radio station, is grandfathered to even exceed the Class C restrictions).
 
It's not just Frank and The Blimp doing the Commercial Free marathons...

Coast 93.1 "93 minute music marathons throughout the day" First one: 9am
94.3 WCYY: "94 minute music marathons"
Big Hits Y100.9: "30 minutes of back to back BIG hits"...every hour except mornings.
WPOR 101.9: 101 minute music marathons.
104.7 and 106.7 The Bone: 20 song music marathons every day at 9, noon and 5.

If you work during the day and don't like commercials here is what you do:

Start listening to WBLM and 8:30.
at 10:30 switch over to FRANK,
at 12:00 switch over to THE BONE.
at 1:20-1:30 switch to WCYY or WMGX and see if they are in a marathon.
at 3:30 back over to WBLM until 5:30.

You might still be stuck listening to commercials from 1:30 until 3:30 if WCYY or WGMX is not in a marathon, but that's it!
 
producershemp said:
iPod = music marathons all the time.

SO! … at least you don’t have to get a factory-authorized technician to unseal a radio just to change the batteries… So we’ve got that going for us.

And thanks to radio you know whom to call if you want to name a star after someone special… For the record it’s Rocky Mozell
;)
 
With so many stations in the market tooting their commercial-free horns, the "benefit" is pretty diluted. That's like Hannaford and Price Chopper going head to head with ads that proclaim "We sell milk."

Time for a new strategy!
 
Hello Ben Karlow,

You wouldn't be a Coronation Street fan by any chance? (Ken Barlow is the longest running character on the British serial... or any English language TV program. His character has lived on Coronation St. since it began, what 45 years ago? Played by the same actor, William Roche I think? He's in the Guiness Book of World Records.)

And no Price Choppers, here. In Maine, its Hannaford and Shaw's... and a few Wal-Mart Supercenters.



Gregg
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This is my first post.

Anyways I wanted to add 95.9 WRED to the list of commercial free time. I've heard them say 95 minute music marathons.
 
I realize I'm a little late arriving to this parade, but I have noticed 'BLM running bumpers during their "commercial free" segments humping specific advertisers for making it all possible. They've clearly taken a page from non-commercial broadcasters who, while they can't actually sell ads, can and do sign up underwriters to help generate revenue. I don't know if Citadel is charging for the priviledge (they should be) or simply spiffing good clients as a form of value added inncentive. I also don't know if Nassau is doing the same, but give them time, they'll copy the idea.
 
Biff Barfington said:
I also don't know if Nassau is doing the same, but give them time, they'll copy the idea.

Biff,

How is it possible that Nassau is copying WBLM with the commercial free idea or any idea for that matter. Fact: 99-9 The Wolf started the commercial free workday 9 till Noon in 2006 (The Wolf is Frank's sister station). Fact: Frank started in 2004 with 20 Song Music Marathon's Everyday at 9, Noon, and 5pm. Fact: During the last week of December 2007 NASSAU decided to move Frank to the commercial free workday 9 till Noon. A week later WBLM launches commercial free workday 8:30-10:30 and 3:30-5:30. The fact is once WBLM's programming people heard Frank's new commercial free plan they had no choice but to do some sort of commercial free program themselves or Frank would have continued spanking them like it did from 2004-2007. Still today Frank is in the number #2 spot (while WYNZ continues to be like Frank more and more each day attacking Frank on the older side). Not bad for a station that's only been around for 4 years while BLM is celebrating it's 35th anniversary.

A lot of people seem to like ripping on Nassau, but since they have entered the Portland market they have destroyed one of the market icons, WMGX which is no longer (I do want to congratulate Randi K. and her team for an incredible format flip to Hot AC) Frank has beat WBLM consistantly and WTHT 99-9 The Wolf is now the #1 Country station in the state and most importantly in Portland! WPOR is not even in the top 10 with adults. How can anyone deny their success?
 
Vox was doing "93 minute music marathons" after Imus on WNHI Belmont NH as early as 1997.


WeekendWarrior said:
Biff Barfington said:
I also don't know if Nassau is doing the same, but give them time, they'll copy the idea.

Biff,

How is it possible that Nassau is copying WBLM with the commercial free idea or any idea for that matter. Fact: 99-9 The Wolf started the commercial free workday 9 till Noon in 2006 (The Wolf is Frank's sister station). Fact: Frank started in 2004 with 20 Song Music Marathon's Everyday at 9, Noon, and 5pm. Fact: During the last week of December 2007 NASSAU decided to move Frank to the commercial free workday 9 till Noon. A week later WBLM launches commercial free workday 8:30-10:30 and 3:30-5:30. The fact is once WBLM's programming people heard Frank's new commercial free plan they had no choice but to do some sort of commercial free program themselves or Frank would have continued spanking them like it did from 2004-2007. Still today Frank is in the number #2 spot (while WYNZ continues to be like Frank more and more each day attacking Frank on the older side). Not bad for a station that's only been around for 4 years while BLM is celebrating it's 35th anniversary.

A lot of people seem to like ripping on Nassau, but since they have entered the Portland market they have destroyed one of the market icons, WMGX which is no longer (I do want to congratulate Randi K. and her team for an incredible format flip to Hot AC) Frank has beat WBLM consistantly and WTHT 99-9 The Wolf is now the #1 Country station in the state and most importantly in Portland! WPOR is not even in the top 10 with adults. How can anyone deny their success?
 
Dear Jack:

Welcome back to Maine. I like the Biff name. Nice. You really need to get up to speed. Mr. Warrior is very right.
Best Regards
 
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