What do you think of the shows on KKSF 910 & KNEW 960 so far.

[recto101]

http://www.960knew.com/pages/lineup.html

http://www.newstalk910.com/pages/onair.html

I thought KKSF did well in handling the fill ins for Burns. I hope all the other ex-KGO-AM people get a seat someday on 960 or 910. KNEW is mostly syndicated programming.

 

[Questor]

I drive frequently between Sacramento and the Bay Area. Before 1/3/12 I'd switch to KSFO to catch Limbaugh and others. I actually preferred listening to Rush on 560 instead of 1530 KFBK. I'd also listen to KGO.

Now tuning in 910 while out and about in the Bay Area is painful. They really need to improve their signal.

My initial thought: this is an improvement?

Just because a change happens in high-tech Silicon Valley doesn't mean it's progressive (pardon the pun.)

 

[SFStatic]

910 DID improve their signal, several years ago. They raised daytime power from 5Kw to 20Kw, all they could get. The problem is, in order to protect other stations as mandated by the FCC, they lost about 10-15% of their coverage East (think Contra Costa) in order to gain much stronger coverage in Santa Clara County. It was a trade off, and they knew it at the time.

 

[MarioMania]

That's why I can't hear it clearing in Vallejo..

But what stations is KKSF 910 protecting in the east??

 

[marshallstax]

Well.. my "960" button has been replaced by "810" (just to monitor how that fantastic new(s) format is doing...) and I hold out hope that, eventually, Stephanie Miller will return to her live (6-9a) slot on 960. Meanwhile, the "880 The Revolution" feed on iHeart Radio is working to hear her show most mornings.

 

[radio dx]

I now have set a button for 910. It's great that ClearChannel filled this void with local newstalk (and I am no fan of Clearchannel). I hope that they will dump the syndicated programing and keep it all local.

Now if only the "Hosts" can remember it's "910 KKSF" it's funny to hear the air folks catch themselves. Jim Gabbert the other day said "KGO....I mean 810....I should say 910" but great job I enjoy hearing them again.

 

[LKellerIII]

I now have set a button for 910. It's great that ClearChannel filled this void with local newstalk (and I am no fan of Clearchannel). I hope that they will dump the syndicated programing and keep it all local.

Now if only the "Hosts" can remember it's "910 KKSF" it's funny to hear the air folks catch themselves. Jim Gabbert the other day said "KGO....I mean 810....I should say 910" but great job I enjoy hearing them again.

At least Gabbert didn't regress entirely and say "KOFY, Stereo TV 20..."

 

[recto101]

Look I saw ads for Toyota Prius V on TNT during the Warriors Game that there will be a Wifi dashboard that includes an Iheartradio app. This is an interesting idea CC and I hope the moves work.
I think CC will get some of the popular AM stations like KFI, in LA and now KKSF and KNEW to bypass FM simulcast or HD Simulcast and get the Toyota Prius V drivers to listen to their shows via dashboard app of I heart Radio.

 

[DavidKaye]

Now if only the "Hosts" can remember it's "910 KKSF" it's funny to hear the air folks catch themselves. Jim Gabbert the other day said "KGO....I mean 810....I should say 910" but great job I enjoy hearing them again.

I don't believe Gil Gross made a mistake even once. It's really elementary. At a couple points I worked at two stations. One was easy because they had the station slogan on a long Dymo label across the console. All you had to do was read it. For the other ones I carried cards with the slogans printed in large letters exactly the way I should say them.

In Len Tillem's case, he should write down, "Why are you calling a lawyer on NewsTalk 910?" and similar phrases. After some use it will become second nature.

 

[SFStatic]

You take no chances, as David points out. Print your own cards and put them right up in front. Same with phone numbers. I've heard a host who used to do weekends on KGO blow his phone number over and over again. Hello? Put it on a card and read it if you can't remember it!

 

[RBA]

Look I saw ads for Toyota Prius V on TNT during the Warriors Game that there will be a Wifi dashboard that includes an Iheartradio app. This is an interesting idea CC and I hope the moves work.
I think CC will get some of the popular AM stations like KFI, in LA and now KKSF and KNEW to bypass FM simulcast or HD Simulcast and get the Toyota Prius V drivers to listen to their shows via dashboard app of I heart Radio.

Wifi? Probably data service you have to subscribe to from 3G or 4G networks from phone companies.

 

[DanStrassberg]

910 DID improve their signal, several years ago. They raised daytime power from 5Kw to 20Kw, all they could get. The problem is, in order to protect other stations as mandated by the FCC, they lost about 10-15% of their coverage East (think Contra Costa) in order to gain much stronger coverage in Santa Clara County. It was a trade off, and they knew it at the time.

I think you mean that they had to reduce the inverse-distance field to the east at 1 km by 10 to 15%. That is not the same thing as losing 10 to 15% of the coverage. Over any ground that occurs naturally--except for salt water--the coverage loss is substantially less than the field-strength loss. If you can get copies of the old and current coverage maps, you will see what I'm talking about. In fact, if the station was running DA-1 before the daytime upgrade there was no change in the night pattern when the day power was increased, you may be able to just compare the current day and night 5 mV/m contours.

 

[SFStatic]

By 'driving the pattern,' before and after in Contra Costa County, there's no doubt of the loss of coverage there. You can drive down Hartz in downtown Danville and have trouble getting the station, while KSTE comes in fine during the day. I am just repeating the 10-15% figure from a Chief Engineer who said that...no doubt simplifying it for me.

 

[Lou_S]

Any AM change has to reduce interference to other stations by 10% - that's probably what the engineer meant by a 10-15% reduction. If you look at the pattern plot on the FCC site it's basically a semicircle over an arc from 20 to 95 degrees, then the main lobe expands out from there.

Driving around that area, I agree - they have a lot more "null talk" (asymetrical sidebands to carrier) than I would have expected from such a broad pattern.

As to what stations they're protecting, there's a 900 Khz in Fresno, 920 KHz in Ceres and 930 KHz in Paradise (Chico). The Ceres station is directional daytime, which suggests their contours are adjacent to the old KNEW 5 KW Non-DA pattern and would trigger the 10% interference reduction.

 

[DavidKaye]

Driving around that area, I agree - they have a lot more "null talk" (asymetrical sidebands to carrier) than I would have expected from such a broad pattern.

How many nulls can there be? I'd say only two given that 910 has a 2-tower array at night. (It's the one at the foot of Central Avenue in El Cerrito, right on the bay.)

 

[DanStrassberg]

How many nulls can there be? I'd say only two given that 910 has a 2-tower array at night. (It's the one at the foot of Central Avenue in El Cerrito, right on the bay.)

It's not common, but if you look for them, I believe that you will find some two-tower patterns that have four and maybe even five local minima. In some cases, the minima can be quite broad but very shallow, but the inverse-distance field numbers tell you that these are actual minima. I would not expect audio distortion in these broad but shallow minima, but maybe the effect is more prevalent than I had thought. Take a look at the 43-kW three-tower day pattern of WPEN, ignoring augmentations, and take close note of how the ID field varies as you work your way around behind the pattern from north to southwest. This pattern has been in use for only a year or two and complies with the ratchet rule. When WPEN increased its day power and went directional days, its goal was both to approximate the old 5-kW ND-D signal to the west and to comply with the ratchet rule and thereby increase protection to first-adjacent WHYL to the west. That part of the pattern is a good approximation of a semicircle, but not a perfect approximation. There are both minima and maxima in what most people would call the minor lobe behind the pattern.

 

[Madmansam]

I now have set a button for 910. It's great that ClearChannel filled this void with local newstalk (and I am no fan of Clearchannel). I hope that they will dump the syndicated programing and keep it all local.

Now if only the "Hosts" can remember it's "910 KKSF" it's funny to hear the air folks catch themselves. Jim Gabbert the other day said "KGO....I mean 810....I should say 910" but great job I enjoy hearing them again.

At least Gabbert didn't regress entirely and say "KOFY, Stereo TV 20..."

or even "Coffee 1050" or even "K-101"!

 

[recto101]

I now have set a button for 910. It's great that ClearChannel filled this void with local newstalk (and I am no fan of Clearchannel). I hope that they will dump the syndicated programing and keep it all local.

Now if only the "Hosts" can remember it's "910 KKSF" it's funny to hear the air folks catch themselves. Jim Gabbert the other day said "KGO....I mean 810....I should say 910" but great job I enjoy hearing them again.

At least Gabbert didn't regress entirely and say "KOFY, Stereo TV 20..."

or even "Coffee 1050" or even "K-101"!

Or KTZO TV 20!

 

[marshallstax]

Well... I'd like to know what happened to "'Green960' will continue as it was, on an HD2 channel" as I read somewhere just before the changeover - I've searched every CC station's HD2 signal and there is no "Green960" or anything like it anywhere...

I want to listen to Stephanie Miller, live, not delayed, on a broadcast frequency. Right now I'm listening on the internet (880 The Revolution (WPEK) - Asheville/Fairview, NC) but that doesn't work in a car.

I'm hoping for craptastic morning-drive ratings to allow CC to reinstate S.Miller's live slot (6-9a) but who knows what'll happen?