What does WBZ 1030 AM do with the 8 PM-12 AM Monday-Friday slot now?

[raccoonradio]

>>he's a conservative

well Dennis Miller may lean Right on most issues; maybe libertarian in some respects, but he is to the left
on a couple. As he has said, "I have no problem with Larry and Steve getting married, but if an Islamofascist
wants to blow up their wedding, then that I have a problem with". I think Franken was asked if Miller
was a neo-con but he said, no, he always had that conservative streak, or a bit of one, during the SNL
days and, as Dennis used to say to open Weekend Update, well, what can I tell ya.

It's true that many hosts are conservatives--they have had the most success so far but someday libs
will catch on once they figure out the formula

Phil Hendrie debuted on WTKK last night; he has described himself as a Democrat who isn't all that fond
of today's Dem politicians. (Heard yesterday on Howie's show, as he and Jon Keller bantered about
Paul Sullivan: "He was a REAL Democrat"--meaning NOT to the far left on every thing. Howie mentioned
talking to a politician who described someone else as a "real Democrat" and he defined it as "one
who voted for Reagan". Yes.) Hendrie"s first bit was a mixture of a Brittney Spears song with some
of the air traffic controller conversations with Flight 93 on 9/11/01 (at one point, Cleveland Control
keeps trying to reach the pilots on the flight who had said that someone claimed to have a bomb
on board; they're unsuccessful...by this time the plane had probably gone down in Shanksville, PA)

The message? Maybe "here we have Young Hollywood, celebutards, partying it up and 9/11 is just
an annoying thing from the past--oh yuk, they're bringing it up again. Why can't we just party, like,
y'know?" Then Hendrie had a segment where he talked to Bobbie Dooley and her husband Steve
who have protested against the war for years but were really upset at some of the peace protesters
who were interrupting Petreus at the Capitol...Bobbie said she was so upset at THAT that she turned
around and was now supporting the war.

Oh, for those not familiar with Hendrie, he (and maybe one other person) does all the voices. His
own...the "guests"...callers. It's all a talk show spoof but has a point. It's satire--which is not
just cheap laughs but humor with a point to get across.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hendrie

Is he on the Right? "Hendrie is also adamantly pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-amnesty for illegal immigrants. At the same time, he is extremely supportive of the Iraq War as well as the War on Terror"

 

[Casablanca]

Remember as David Brudnoy's producer on both WHDH and WRKO Jon Keller is a Brudnoy libertarian acolyte. Like Jon but his politics can get a bit mean spirited like many true believes of the left or the right or the libertarian fringe. So, Jon's characterization of Paul Sullivan's Democratic leanings must be colored by Jon's own broadcast history.

>>he's a conservative

well Dennis Miller may lean Right on most issues; maybe libertarian in some respects, but he is to the left
on a couple. As he has said, "I have no problem with Larry and Steve getting married, but if an Islamofascist
wants to blow up their wedding, then that I have a problem with". I think Franken was asked if Miller
was a neo-con but he said, no, he always had that conservative streak, or a bit of one, during the SNL
days and, as Dennis used to say to open Weekend Update, well, what can I tell ya.

It's true that many hosts are conservatives--they have had the most success so far but someday libs
will catch on once they figure out the formula

Phil Hendrie debuted on WTKK last night; he has described himself as a Democrat who isn't all that fond
of today's Dem politicians. (Heard yesterday on Howie's show, as he and Jon Keller bantered about
Paul Sullivan: "He was a REAL Democrat"--meaning NOT to the far left on every thing. Howie mentioned
talking to a politician who described someone else as a "real Democrat" and he defined it as "one
who voted for Reagan". Yes.) Hendrie"s first bit was a mixture of a Brittney Spears song with some
of the air traffic controller conversations with Flight 93 on 9/11/01 (at one point, Cleveland Control
keeps trying to reach the pilots on the flight who had said that someone claimed to have a bomb
on board; they're unsuccessful...by this time the plane had probably gone down in Shanksville, PA)

The message? Maybe "here we have Young Hollywood, celebutards, partying it up and 9/11 is just
an annoying thing from the past--oh yuk, they're bringing it up again. Why can't we just party, like,
y'know?" Then Hendrie had a segment where he talked to Bobbie Dooley and her husband Steve
who have protested against the war for years but were really upset at some of the peace protesters
who were interrupting Petreus at the Capitol...Bobbie said she was so upset at THAT that she turned
around and was now supporting the war.

Oh, for those not familiar with Hendrie, he (and maybe one other person) does all the voices. His
own...the "guests"...callers. It's all a talk show spoof but has a point. It's satire--which is not
just cheap laughs but humor with a point to get across.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Hendrie

Is he on the Right? "Hendrie is also adamantly pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-amnesty for illegal immigrants. At the same time, he is extremely supportive of the Iraq War as well as the War on Terror"

 

[raccoonradio]

>>but his politics can get a bit mean spirited

but if you're on his side, as I prob. am, they don't seem mean spirited at all.
In the past you would find some Dems who were fiscally conservative (Finneran may claim to
be of that ilk) or were socially conservative (Ray Flynn, pro-life). The so-called "Reagan
Democrats" were social conservatives, lunch-bucket Dems who crossed party lines or
felt he would do better than the opponent (Carter, then Mondale). Some "Reagan Dems"
kept their party affiliation (good example: Born a Dem, will die a Dem, Zell Miller) while
others became independents or perhaps even GOP.

Some cross over because they believe their party has gone to far to the left. Reagan's
famed quote: "I didn't leave the Dem. party. The Dem. party left me."

 

[TSBench]

weren't there rumors that the Vietnam Vet call may have been fake?

Yep, he was 'outted' as a union activist from East Boston by the name of Domenic Bozzotto, who had never served.

The crazy Right Wing would like him to be a fake but he is not.

He was originally revealed as a fake by Jim Braude, the notorious Right Wing lickspittle

When Williams was presented with the evidence of a hoax, Jerry punted..." I have never known who it was. What he said was more important than whether he was Joe from Framingham or Domenic from East Boston "...which appears to be straight out of the Dan Rather "Fake but accurate" school of journalism.

[ The infamous Vietnam Veteran's call was on WBZ in the 1968 Presidential campaign and put Jerry on Nixon's "Enemies List".]

That also appears to be a figment of Jerry's imagination. The two infamous Nixon Enemies Lists, maintained by Colson, were put in the record of the Senate Watergate Committee, both the original 20 name list and the expanded list which went to about 150 names. Jerry in on neither of them. When you see the list of the media heavyweights on the list, Jerry actually being on it would have been pretty odd. But, at the time, saying you were on the list had a certain cache about it, which is why there are now about 5000 people all of whom claim to have been on the 150 name list.

Now, I guess you could say that having your named scratched from the White House Christmas card list could constitute being a Nixon 'enemy', but I don't think that was what he was trying to imply.

Surprisingly, the entire lists are in the public record and pretty easy to find and check out, so it's a little strange that these myths are still making the rounds and believed by a lot of folks who should know better (but probably don't want to.)

Regards,
TSB

 

[Infidel]

I don't know ... they already have the "Keller at Large" segment.

An evening show could be [aptly] called "Keller at Small"

 

[Casablanca]

As usual your information is incorrect. The Veteran was not Domenic Bozzotto. I met the veteran in the WRKO studio when he visited Jerry and can attest that his recollection of the destruction we caused with the carpet bombing in Vietnam was as he stated it years before. He has asked that his privacy be respected and unless told otherwise that policy will hold.

As to Jerry making Nixon's enemy list talk to the suits at Westinghouse who got a call from the Nixon White House to get Jerry off the air or there would be consequences to all Westinghouse broadcast licenses.

You once said you were a stock market analyst or something like that. I hope that you didn't give the same kind of misinformation to your clients as you are spouting here. Still, it is not unlike many stockbrokers I have met to be full of bull...

weren't there rumors that the Vietnam Vet call may have been fake?

Yep, he was 'outted' as a union activist from East Boston by the name of Domenic Bozzotto, who had never served.

The crazy Right Wing would like him to be a fake but he is not.

He was originally revealed as a fake by Jim Braude, the notorious Right Wing lickspittle

When Williams was presented with the evidence of a hoax, Jerry punted..." I have never known who it was. What he said was more important than whether he was Joe from Framingham or Domenic from East Boston "...which appears to be straight out of the Dan Rather "Fake but accurate" school of journalism.

[ The infamous Vietnam Veteran's call was on WBZ in the 1968 Presidential campaign and put Jerry on Nixon's "Enemies List".]

That also appears to be a figment of Jerry's imagination. The two infamous Nixon Enemies Lists, maintained by Colson, were put in the record of the Senate Watergate Committee, both the original 20 name list and the expanded list which went to about 150 names. Jerry in on neither of them. When you see the list of the media heavyweights on the list, Jerry actually being on it would have been pretty odd. But, at the time, saying you were on the list had a certain cache about it, which is why there are now about 5000 people all of whom claim to have been on the 150 name list.

Now, I guess you could say that having your named scratched from the White House Christmas card list could constitute being a Nixon 'enemy', but I don't think that was what he was trying to imply.

Surprisingly, the entire lists are in the public record and pretty easy to find and check out, so it's a little strange that these myths are still making the rounds and believed by a lot of folks who should know better (but probably don't want to.)

Regards,
TSB

 

[TSBench]

As usual your information is incorrect. The Veteran was not Domenic Bozzotto. I met the veteran in the WRKO studio when he visited Jerry and can attest that his recollection of the destruction we caused with the carpet bombing in Vietnam was as he stated it years before. He has asked that his privacy be respected and unless told otherwise that policy will hold.

Of course. He must have made quite an impression on Jerry, because Jerry didn't recall meeting him when asked about it. Are you saying Jerry lied, or, when his credibility was at stake, that he forgot about meeting the caller that put him on the national radar? Odd. Of course, I could be really mean and ask you how you would actually know if this guy was telling you the truth, but I think everyone already knows the answer to that one.

Books have been written about these fakers with their bogus war and atrocity stories, and a lot of folks have been fooled who should have, and could have, known better. Even Jerry seems to have eventually figured out he'd been scammed.

I assume your original meme, the "right wing wackos out to destroy Jerry's favorite fairy tale" is, as they say, no longer operative.

As to Jerry making Nixon's enemy list talk to the suits at Westinghouse who got a call from the Nixon White House to get Jerry off the air or there would be consequences to all Westinghouse broadcast licenses.

In other words, no, Jerry wasn't on Nixon's enemies list. See how easy that was. As my mom used to say, the best thing about telling the truth right from the start is that you don't have to remember what you said.

Unfortunately, I don't have a Rolodex with the phone numbers of 90 year-old former Westinghouse execs, but if I did I'd assume they are like all your other sources; dead, sworn to secrecy, or in the final stages of Alzheimers. But, it will come as a surprise to nobody to know that for some reason Westinghouse and Group W aren't on the list either, and that's a list which includes everyone from the CEO of NBC to the chairman of IBM. Maybe Colson was too busy ratting them out to the FCC, or perhaps he just had a warm spot in his otherwise cold heart for the makers of his beloved mom's old refrigerator.

You once said you were a stock market analyst or something like that. I hope that you didn't give the same kind of misinformation to your clients as you are spouting here. Still, it is not unlike many stockbrokers I have met to be full of bull...

Luckily for me, I was never hoaxed by fraudulent stock tipsters, and never had a client who thought he was on Nixon's Enemies List.

Life's been kind to me.

Regards,
TSB

 

[Casablanca]

Don't know when or if Jerry Williams made any statement that the famous Vietnam Veteran caller was a hoax but I can tell you that I was standing next to Jerry in the studio with this Vietnam Veteran who made the call approximately 14 years earlier and the tone in his voice and the tears in his eyes were real. Anyone who is of the Vietnam era and a veteran as I am [ not in Vietnam] can tell fakers and this gentleman and Vietnam Veteram is not faker.

Oh, by the way, what did you do in the war...pick any war from the Civil War on...

As to the Nixon's Enemy list it was both actual and metphorical. When the White House calls your bosses at Westinghouse and the White House tell you to shut up its most vocal critic heard in 38 States on the brink of an election, those suits listen and take action.

The late, Antonino Bill Hartman, General Manager of WBZ in the 80's confirmed that WBZ essentially fired Jerry Williams even though he was number one in the ratings because the Westinghouse suits caved to White House pressure and WBZ knew it could not control what Jerry would say on-air.

Hartman's exact words to me were, "Jerry was too powerful and we were not allowed to renegotiate his contract."

weren't there rumors that the Vietnam Vet call may have been fake?

Yep, he was 'outted' as a union activist from East Boston by the name of Domenic Bozzotto, who had never served.

The crazy Right Wing would like him to be a fake but he is not.

He was originally revealed as a fake by Jim Braude, the notorious Right Wing lickspittle

When Williams was presented with the evidence of a hoax, Jerry punted..." I have never known who it was. What he said was more important than whether he was Joe from Framingham or Domenic from East Boston "...which appears to be straight out of the Dan Rather "Fake but accurate" school of journalism.

[ The infamous Vietnam Veteran's call was on WBZ in the 1968 Presidential campaign and put Jerry on Nixon's "Enemies List".]

That also appears to be a figment of Jerry's imagination. The two infamous Nixon Enemies Lists, maintained by Colson, were put in the record of the Senate Watergate Committee, both the original 20 name list and the expanded list which went to about 150 names. Jerry in on neither of them. When you see the list of the media heavyweights on the list, Jerry actually being on it would have been pretty odd. But, at the time, saying you were on the list had a certain cache about it, which is why there are now about 5000 people all of whom claim to have been on the 150 name list.

Now, I guess you could say that having your named scratched from the White House Christmas card list could constitute being a Nixon 'enemy', but I don't think that was what he was trying to imply.

Surprisingly, the entire lists are in the public record and pretty easy to find and check out, so it's a little strange that these myths are still making the rounds and believed by a lot of folks who should know better (but probably don't want to.)

Regards,
TSB

 

[TSBench]

Don't know when or if Jerry Williams made any statement that the famous Vietnam Veteran caller was a hoax but I can tell you that I was standing next to Jerry in the studio with this Vietnam Veteran who made the call approximately 14 years earlier and the tone in his voice and the tears in his eyes were real. Anyone who is of the Vietnam era and a veteran as I am [ not in Vietnam] can tell fakers and this gentleman and Vietnam Veteram is not faker.

Williams said the following to Dan Kennedy for a column in 1998 when confronted with the evidence unearthed by Braude......." I have never known who it was. What he said was more important than whether he was Joe from Framingham or Domenic from East Boston ". Pretty unusual coming from somebody who standing next to the guy who had made him famous. Sorry, you lose on this one

Oh, by the way, what did you do in the war...pick any war from the Civil War on...

CTF 116 out of Can Tho, with a brief deployment to Nha Be as part of the covering force for HCU1 in the Rat.
PG1...Norfolk, CinCLant
Deliberate Force out of Aviano
EF & IF, 5thFlt, Manama

As to the Nixon's Enemy list it was both actual and metphorical.

Aww...give it a break. I can't believe (well, yes I can) you're actually trying to peddle some BS that Jerry was refering to the Enemies List in the metaphorical sense. You may think everyone just fell off the tuirnip truck, but I can assure you that this isn't the first country fair for a lot of us.

The late, Antonino Bill Hartman, General Manager of WBZ in the 80's confirmed that WBZ essentially fired Jerry Williams even though he was number one in the ratings because the Westinghouse suits caved to White House pressure and WBZ knew it could not control what Jerry would say on-air.

Well, Hartman fills the prime requirement for being a Casablanca source. ..he no longer walks among us. Sorry, but no sale on this BS

Hartman's exact words to me were, "Jerry was too powerful and we were not allowed to renegotiate his contract."

A

 

[TSBench]

Oops,,,computer burped...one more time (and the last time)

Don't know when or if Jerry Williams made any statement that the famous Vietnam Veteran caller was a hoax but I can tell you that I was standing next to Jerry in the studio with this Vietnam Veteran who made the call approximately 14 years earlier and the tone in his voice and the tears in his eyes were real. Anyone who is of the Vietnam era and a veteran as I am [ not in Vietnam] can tell fakers and this gentleman and Vietnam Veteram is not faker.

Williams said the following to Dan Kennedy for a column in 1998 when confronted with the evidence unearthed by Braude......." I have never known who it was. What he said was more important than whether he was Joe from Framingham or Domenic from East Boston ". Pretty unusual coming from somebody who had stood next to the guy who had made him famous. Sorry, you lose on this one

Oh, by the way, what did you do in the war...pick any war from the Civil War on...

CTF 116 out of Can Tho, with a brief deployment to Nha Be as part of the covering force for HCU1 in the Rat.
PG1...Norfolk, CinCLant
Deliberate Force out of Aviano
EF & IF, 5thFlt, Manama

As to the Nixon's Enemy list it was both actual and metphorical.

Aww...give it a break. I can't believe (well, yes I can) you're actually trying to peddle some BS that Jerry was refering to the Enemies List in the metaphorical sense. You may think everyone just fell off the turnip truck, but I can assure you that this isn't the first country fair for a lot of us. The truth is that you actually thought he was on the list.

The late, Antonino Bill Hartman, General Manager of WBZ in the 80's confirmed that WBZ essentially fired Jerry Williams even though he was number one in the ratings because the Westinghouse suits caved to White House pressure and WBZ knew it could not control what Jerry would say on-air.

Well, Hartman fills the prime requirement for being a Casablanca source. ..he no longer walks among us. Sorry, but no sale on this BS

Hartman's exact words to me were, "Jerry was too powerful and we were not allowed to renegotiate his contract."

And then he clicked his heels and.....well, I guess we're not in Baltimore anymore (in the metaphorical sense, that is.)

Sorry, Casa, but another collection of your delusional prevarications bites the dust. So long on this one, from now on you're talking to yourself in trying to sell this disengenuous crap.

On the bright side, tomorrow is another day, and you'll probably come up with something else your credibility can be shredded over. Good for entertainment value, is nothing else.

Regards,
TSB

 

[Casablanca]

You never said which side you were fighting on?
Again, knowing JW as well as I did it would not have been beyond him to well... withhold information from Dan Kennedy to protect this Vietnam Veteran whose life was still pretty shakey [ PTS perhaps ]

As to A. Bill Hartman, he was no friend of Jerry Williams and in fact was speaking to me as a warning that while talented he could not be told what to do by management. To be frank, he did not like Jerry; then again, NO ONE liked Bill Hartman - including the first wife he dumped for some trophy wife. He was from my tribe but that didn't give him a pass in my book.

A. Bill Hartman was the kind of guy who hated to see anyone else succeed. In that regard, he was a lot like Howie Carr.

Ain't human nature wonderful...

PS. All kidding aside, thanks for your service.

Don't know when or if Jerry Williams made any statement that the famous Vietnam Veteran caller was a hoax but I can tell you that I was standing next to Jerry in the studio with this Vietnam Veteran who made the call approximately 14 years earlier and the tone in his voice and the tears in his eyes were real. Anyone who is of the Vietnam era and a veteran as I am [ not in Vietnam] can tell fakers and this gentleman and Vietnam Veteram is not faker.

Oh, by the way, what did you do in the war...pick any war from the Civil War on...

As to the Nixon's Enemy list it was both actual and metphorical. When the White House calls your bosses at Westinghouse and the White House tell you to shut up its most vocal critic heard in 38 States on the brink of an election, those suits listen and take action.

The late, Antonino Bill Hartman, General Manager of WBZ in the 80's confirmed that WBZ essentially fired Jerry Williams even though he was number one in the ratings because the Westinghouse suits caved to White House pressure and WBZ knew it could not control what Jerry would say on-air.

Hartman's exact words to me were, "Jerry was too powerful and we were not allowed to renegotiate his contract."

weren't there rumors that the Vietnam Vet call may have been fake?

Yep, he was 'outted' as a union activist from East Boston by the name of Domenic Bozzotto, who had never served.

The crazy Right Wing would like him to be a fake but he is not.

He was originally revealed as a fake by Jim Braude, the notorious Right Wing lickspittle

When Williams was presented with the evidence of a hoax, Jerry punted..." I have never known who it was. What he said was more important than whether he was Joe from Framingham or Domenic from East Boston "...which appears to be straight out of the Dan Rather "Fake but accurate" school of journalism.

[ The infamous Vietnam Veteran's call was on WBZ in the 1968 Presidential campaign and put Jerry on Nixon's "Enemies List".]

That also appears to be a figment of Jerry's imagination. The two infamous Nixon Enemies Lists, maintained by Colson, were put in the record of the Senate Watergate Committee, both the original 20 name list and the expanded list which went to about 150 names. Jerry in on neither of them. When you see the list of the media heavyweights on the list, Jerry actually being on it would have been pretty odd. But, at the time, saying you were on the list had a certain cache about it, which is why there are now about 5000 people all of whom claim to have been on the 150 name list.

Now, I guess you could say that having your named scratched from the White House Christmas card list could constitute being a Nixon 'enemy', but I don't think that was what he was trying to imply.

Surprisingly, the entire lists are in the public record and pretty easy to find and check out, so it's a little strange that these myths are still making the rounds and believed by a lot of folks who should know better (but probably don't want to.)

Regards,
TSB

 

[Blackroc]

Jerry used to mention John McLaughlin --then of Nixon's speech writing staff-- as one who contacted the station. The BC -ed. Jesuit probably spent a lot of time up here.

Do I believe it was Bazoto? Yes.