What is best city for a New LOCAL Contemporary Christian Station

[Chuck]

They do a great job. If Arbitron was a little more forthcoming with public information, people would discover what an influence in the community they actually are. They beat most commercial stations in the area. The last place in the universe that needs a Contemporary Christian station is the Tyler-Longview market.

 

[Anonymouse]

According to their Wikipedia page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGLY they have translators in Lufkin / Nacogdoches, however last time I was there I heard neither one.

Are KVNE and KGLY the same format?

 

[93-3TheSurge]

Victoria would be an excellent market for a Christian station.

We have some stations that you can pick up in the car based out of Houston/El Campo (KHCB 96-9), San Antonio (97-7 Air 1) and Corpus Christi (103-7 Air 1), but they contain static. If you are at home, you can't pick them on an AM/FM stereo. Victoria really needs a local FM Christian music station.

 

[purpledevil]

Victoria would be an excellent market for a Christian station.

We have some stations that you can pick up in the car based out of Houston/El Campo (KHCB 96-9), San Antonio (97-7 Air 1) and Corpus Christi (103-7 Air 1), but they contain static. If you are at home, you can't pick them on an AM/FM stereo. Victoria really needs a local FM Christian music station.

Doesn't KSBJ have a translator in Victoria? I know they used to. Seems like it was also 89.3 in Victoria, same as the main signal.

Side note: 96.9 in El Campo is KXBJ, which is the simulcast of KSBJ, not KHCB.

 

[93-3TheSurge]

Purple devil:

While it wasn't a translator, 89.3 in Victoria was a simulcast of KSBJ, but it recently flipped to Spanish. Fred Cantu can probably tell you what they are airing now.

You were right about KXBJ though; the 96-9 stick serving Houston/El Campo is a simulcast of KSBJ, not KHCB.

 

[purpledevil]

Purple devil:

While it wasn't a translator, 89.3 in Victoria was a simulcast of KSBJ, but it recently flipped to Spanish. Fred Cantu can probably tell you what they are airing now.

You were right about KXBJ though; the 96-9 stick serving Houston/El Campo is a simulcast of KSBJ, not KHCB.

I must've missed that one, Surge. Last I knew about the station, it was still within the KSBJ portfolio. They sold it to Radio Aleluya, I see. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Jay Walker]

There's already a 250 watt translator in Victoria on 104.3 (K282AR).

Presumably, this translator would go off the air if/when 104.3 Goliad takes to the air, as translators and LPFMs must adjust to the needs of full power stations.

I thinks that's only inside the 60 dBu coverage area. (I.E. if the translator was in Goliad) I believe the way it works in this case is that the Goliad station would have to go the FCC and make a case with them that the listeners in the Victoria area are now having issues picking up 104.3 in Goliad due to the 104.3 translator but being that the 104.3 translator was built and on the air for many years previous to Goliad then they would have a hard time getting the FCC to act on that request. But it doesn't really matter because I just pulled up K282AR on the CDBS and sure enough they have filed a displacement waiver due to 104.3 in Goliad. I am guessing they didn't want to be stepped on at all. So if the FCC grants them the waiver that will allow Hispanic Target Media to put a 54 dBu into Victoria.

From experience I can tell you that translators are secondary services no matter the signal contour. A full power Class C FM I was associated with had a translator come on the same frequency in a medium market over 120 miles from our city of license many miles outside of our 60dbu contour.

One complaint, and only ONE complaint was made by a listener to the FCC and that translator changed frequencies. Seems the listener had put up a yagi at 30ft to listen to our station. When the co-channel translator came online the listener complained and the situation was remedied.

 

[Infamous]

There's already a 250 watt translator in Victoria on 104.3 (K282AR).

Presumably, this translator would go off the air if/when 104.3 Goliad takes to the air, as translators and LPFMs must adjust to the needs of full power stations.

I thinks that's only inside the 60 dBu coverage area. (I.E. if the translator was in Goliad) I believe the way it works in this case is that the Goliad station would have to go the FCC and make a case with them that the listeners in the Victoria area are now having issues picking up 104.3 in Goliad due to the 104.3 translator but being that the 104.3 translator was built and on the air for many years previous to Goliad then they would have a hard time getting the FCC to act on that request. But it doesn't really matter because I just pulled up K282AR on the CDBS and sure enough they have filed a displacement waiver due to 104.3 in Goliad. I am guessing they didn't want to be stepped on at all. So if the FCC grants them the waiver that will allow Hispanic Target Media to put a 54 dBu into Victoria.

From experience I can tell you that translators are secondary services no matter the signal contour. A full power Class C FM I was associated with had a translator come on the same frequency in a medium market over 120 miles from our city of license many miles outside of our 60dbu contour.

One complaint, and only ONE complaint was made by a listener to the FCC and that translator changed frequencies. Seems the listener had put up a yagi at 30ft to listen to our station. When the co-channel translator came online the listener complained and the situation was remedied.

That's a different scenario. The Class C FM was there first.

In this other case the Victoria translator has been there and licensed since Feb 2007. The Goliad station on the same frequency of 104.3 FM still hasn't been constructed. They would have a hard time convincing the FCC that listeners in the Victoria area are now having difficulty hearing them because they didn't exist before. Now if they had a CP in Victoria then yes the translator would be considered a secondary service but their station is in Goliad so the translator would win that argument. But of course all this doesn't matter because the translator is already seeking to change frequencies. They obviously know that no matter what having a station in Goliad on the same frequency will step all over them in Victoria anyway.

 

[Jay Walker]

There's already a 250 watt translator in Victoria on 104.3 (K282AR).

Presumably, this translator would go off the air if/when 104.3 Goliad takes to the air, as translators and LPFMs must adjust to the needs of full power stations.

I thinks that's only inside the 60 dBu coverage area. (I.E. if the translator was in Goliad) I believe the way it works in this case is that the Goliad station would have to go the FCC and make a case with them that the listeners in the Victoria area are now having issues picking up 104.3 in Goliad due to the 104.3 translator but being that the 104.3 translator was built and on the air for many years previous to Goliad then they would have a hard time getting the FCC to act on that request. But it doesn't really matter because I just pulled up K282AR on the CDBS and sure enough they have filed a displacement waiver due to 104.3 in Goliad. I am guessing they didn't want to be stepped on at all. So if the FCC grants them the waiver that will allow Hispanic Target Media to put a 54 dBu into Victoria.

From experience I can tell you that translators are secondary services no matter the signal contour. A full power Class C FM I was associated with had a translator come on the same frequency in a medium market over 120 miles from our city of license many miles outside of our 60dbu contour.

One complaint, and only ONE complaint was made by a listener to the FCC and that translator changed frequencies. Seems the listener had put up a yagi at 30ft to listen to our station. When the co-channel translator came online the listener complained and the situation was remedied.

That's a different scenario. The Class C FM was there first.

In this other case the Victoria translator has been there and licensed since Feb 2007. The Goliad station on the same frequency of 104.3 FM still hasn't been constructed. They would have a hard time convincing the FCC that listeners in the Victoria area are now having difficulty hearing them because they didn't exist before. Now if they had a CP in Victoria then yes the translator would be considered a secondary service but their station is in Goliad so the translator would win that argument. But of course all this doesn't matter because the translator is already seeking to change frequencies. They obviously know that no matter what having a station in Goliad on the same frequency will step all over them in Victoria anyway.

Full FM class stations are always primary to translator operations no matter whose on first..Wait wasn't that an Abbott and Costello routine?

In all seriousness the the translator will move or go off the air according to the rules.
The translator could stay on if there were no complaints by the full power FM listeners and if they will accept interference from the full power FM.

Translators are licensed in all cases as secondary services on the FM band.

 

[bturner]

I'd really have to question if the listening base would be substantial enough to support a station in Victoria. I would feel much better if the market was at least 500,000.

 

[C414B]

According to their Wikipedia page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGLY they have translators in Lufkin / Nacogdoches, however last time I was there I heard neither one.

Not certain about the legitimacy of these translators. If they are broadcasting, my guess is they're using FSK to ID them, as I haven't noticed a verbal ID at TOH.

Are KVNE and KGLY the same format?

No. KVNE is a Contemporary Christian Music (CCM) format while KGLY is an Inspirational (INSPO) format.

As an aside, I remember when KVNE in its early years sounded much like KGLY and KGLY was a traditional (hymns by day/Classical by night) format in its early years.

Man, I must be getting old.....