What is it gonna take for Radio One to make a change at 94.5?

[OHTBGH]

North of 635=Flower Mound, Keller, Plano, Frisco and Allen. South-Desoto, Red Oak, Oak Cliff, Glenn Heights, Cedar Hill, and Waxahachie. Yes the data is out there. Look at DISD..Black folks are moving out in droves. When folk move to this area, they are moving were the schools are better. Black folk are moving to the "affluent" areas now.

Look, you made the claim. I'm going to go digging through school district records to prove or disprove your unqualified comment. I suspect you are incorrect, but I am not certain. Anecdotally, I think the black population is growing out to the suburbs, but I am not convinced it is to the north in any huge numbers.

So if Black Gospel was so bad, why are KGGR and KHVN still around.

Mortenson runs a very cheap and efficient operation. That's great. I'm not arguing that there is not a place for urban gospel in Dallas. But Radio One could not bill anywhere close to The Beat with a gospel format on 97.9. And, the idea of putting gospel on 97.9 and moving The Beat to 94.5 is preposterous.

It was in the Dallas Morning News about "black flight"

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/headlines/20100609-black-flight_changing-the-makeup-of-dallas-schools.ece

You may think its preposterous to put gospel on 97.9, I think it would have been the way for Radio One to make big splash for their entrance into this market.

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I'd suggest that 94.5 change to Dallas' FIRST Urban Talk Station! They have the format with their own TOH news. (My show is on their station WERE-AM 1490 in Cleveland). Got Rev Al in the afternoon drive opposite Limbaugh and other Urban oriented talk shows.

Don't know about the others but WERE has its own phone apps. I have the one for Android. That would take care of the signal problems as well.

Who knows? Maybe John Wylie Price must just get his own talk show! ;D

-BGH

 

[LibertyNT]

The big question is,
do any of those formats make any money or any rating worth the flip?
I had always been under the impression Gospel and super niche urban formats never made much money.

 

[salemjedi54]

North of 635=Flower Mound, Keller, Plano, Frisco and Allen. South-Desoto, Red Oak, Oak Cliff, Glenn Heights, Cedar Hill, and Waxahachie. Yes the data is out there. Look at DISD..Black folks are moving out in droves. When folk move to this area, they are moving were the schools are better. Black folk are moving to the "affluent" areas now.

Look, you made the claim. I'm going to go digging through school district records to prove or disprove your unqualified comment. I suspect you are incorrect, but I am not certain. Anecdotally, I think the black population is growing out to the suburbs, but I am not convinced it is to the north in any huge numbers.

So if Black Gospel was so bad, why are KGGR and KHVN still around.

Mortenson runs a very cheap and efficient operation. That's great. I'm not arguing that there is not a place for urban gospel in Dallas. But Radio One could not bill anywhere close to The Beat with a gospel format on 97.9. And, the idea of putting gospel on 97.9 and moving The Beat to 94.5 is preposterous.

It was in the Dallas Morning News about "black flight"

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/headlines/20100609-black-flight_changing-the-makeup-of-dallas-schools.ece

You may think its preposterous to put gospel on 97.9, I think it would have been the way for Radio One to make big splash for their entrance into this market.

I'd suggest that 94.5 change to Dallas' FIRST Urban Talk Station! They have the format with their own TOH news. (My show is on their station WERE-AM 1490 in Cleveland). Got Rev Al in the afternoon drive opposite Limbaugh and other Urban oriented talk shows.

Don't know about the others but WERE has its own phone apps. I have the one for Android. That would take care of the signal problems as well.

Who knows? Maybe John Wylie Price must just get his own talk show! ;D

-BGH
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94.5 does have a app for the iPhone and Android smartphones. I have it on my iPhone and my wife has it on her Android phone.

That would be a great idea. They already have Baisden on in the afternoons. For you technical folks out there, if 94.5 were to go to a mono signal, would that help them get more coverage than they do now.

 

[OHTBGH]

I listened to Rev Al's show when I was there last month. Say what you want about the politics but he does a great show. Has a staff keepimg him sounding good. Had Solidad O'Brien on promoting her show "The Muslims Next Door". Good conversation and good guests. The call listeners? Gonna want to check in your opinions at the door! ;D

They moved the station from 1330 and swapped to 1490 with the Black Goshpel sister station. Not as good signal around Cleveland. Certainly cannot even pick them up on the farm now. Had to use the app.

I used to be able to pick them up all they way down to Youngstown and get interference from then Otter owned WASN-AM in Poland. It was just north of the city. They were directional at night beaming over the lake and into Canada. I could still pick them up. But the app was a great help while on the farm.

Its a proven format for them and I think it would be a great candidate vs all the usual stuff we have here.

-BGH

 

[salemjedi54]

I listened to Rev Al's show when I was there last month. Say what you want about the politics but he does a great show. Has a staff keepimg him sounding good. Had Solidad O'Brien on promoting her show "The Muslims Next Door". Good conversation and good guests. The call listeners? Gonna want to check in your opinions at the door! ;D

They moved the station from 1330 and swapped to 1490 with the Black Goshpel sister station. Not as good signal around Cleveland. Certainly cannot even pick them up on the farm now. Had to use the app.

I used to be able to pick them up all they way down to Youngstown and get interference from then Otter owned WASN-AM in Poland. It was just north of the city. They were directional at night beaming over the lake and into Canada. I could still pick them up. But the app was a great help while on the farm.

Its a proven format for them and I think it would be a great candidate vs all the usual stuff we have here.

-BGH

I think Rev. Sharpton's show is distributed by Syndication One.

 

[kilamanjero]

North of 635=Flower Mound, Keller, Plano, Frisco and Allen. South-Desoto, Red Oak, Oak Cliff, Glenn Heights, Cedar Hill, and Waxahachie. Yes the data is out there. Look at DISD..Black folks are moving out in droves. When folk move to this area, they are moving were the schools are better. Black folk are moving to the "affluent" areas now.

Look, you made the claim. I'm going to go digging through school district records to prove or disprove your unqualified comment. I suspect you are incorrect, but I am not certain. Anecdotally, I think the black population is growing out to the suburbs, but I am not convinced it is to the north in any huge numbers.

So if Black Gospel was so bad, why are KGGR and KHVN still around.

Mortenson runs a very cheap and efficient operation. That's great. I'm not arguing that there is not a place for urban gospel in Dallas. But Radio One could not bill anywhere close to The Beat with a gospel format on 97.9. And, the idea of putting gospel on 97.9 and moving The Beat to 94.5 is preposterous.

It was in the Dallas Morning News about "black flight"

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/headlines/20100609-black-flight_changing-the-makeup-of-dallas-schools.ece

You may think its preposterous to put gospel on 97.9, I think it would have been the way for Radio One to make big splash for their entrance into this market.

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It wouldn't make any sense billing wise at all. Also I've noticed you have a habit of thinking that any of the more hip-hop oriented stations should move to the "inferior" signals when it's clear that neither Service nor Radio One are feeling those formats like that in the Metroplex. Urban Gospel is a too much of a niche format to sale to yield the type of billing that the current format on 97.9 has with being a mainstream urban. If either one of them do make any moves they will likely sell both those signals that aren't doing well to save themselves the trouble...

 

[OHTBGH]

Yes Rev al is syndicated and is across several stations across the country. Many Radio One Urban Talk formats.

-BGH

 

[dakareedog]

For you technical folks out there, if 94.5 were to go to a mono signal, would that help them get more coverage than they do now.

It would eliminate some of the noise, (hiss and fft,fft fft), but not much. It's just too far away from the metroplex.

 

[charles123]

For you technical folks out there, if 94.5 were to go to a mono signal, would that help them get more coverage than they do now.

It would eliminate some of the noise, (hiss and fft,fft fft), but not much. It's just too far away from the metroplex.

Or move their antenna closer to the metroplex.

 

[dakareedog]

Or move their antenna closer to the metroplex.

They can't do that. They are as close and as high as they can be. That's been the problem all along. Why do you think the EDGE move to 102.1 from there?

 

[jd]

Or move their antenna closer to the metroplex.

Here's the way it is. Everything, and I do mean everything, that's a fringe area signal (or rim-shot if you prefer that term) is as close to the main part of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex is possible, given the current spacing limitations. The only exception in recent memory is the move of KFWR 95.9 to Mineral Wells to Jacksboro, with a transmitter site a little closer in, but they still have to be about 65 miles from Cedar Hill (the KSCS site to be specific). Sadly for them, their coverage of the Metroplex isn't going to be dramatically improved.

Every station around here is locked in where they are, with the power levels they've got; all the frequencies are gone and stations are packed in as tightly as possible. It's not going to change, either, unless an absolute, certifiable miracle happens when it comes to spacing requirements. I'll probably be dead by the time that got around to happening, and you might be drawing Social Security and flashing your AARP card. Then again, terrestrial radio itself may be euthanized in the not too distant future so spacing requirements wouldn't matter.

 

[LibertyNT]

Id say the only open frequency would be 99.9
Which you could squeeze in a 3kW Class A,
but even then It would primarily be a Collin County Station like KXEZ

 

[salemjedi54]

Id say the only open frequency would be 99.9
Which you could squeeze in a 3kW Class A,
but even then It would primarily be a Collin County Station like KXEZ

That's the Arlington FM translator for KSKY.

 

[LibertyNT]

That's the Arlington FM translator for KSKY.

Like all translators, that can be moved out, like KLAK did with the 97.5 translator.
What I don't get is why no one ever applied for this frequency? I've heard of an open allocation in Van Alstyne, You'd think the only open Freq in DFW would be highly sought after.

 

[charles123]

That's the Arlington FM translator for KSKY.

Like all translators, that can be moved out, like KLAK did with the 97.5 translator.
What I don't get is why no one ever applied for this frequency? I've heard of an open allocation in Van Alstyne, You'd think the only open Freq in DFW would be highly sought after.

97.5 translator is from 91.3 KDKR in Decatur

 

[jd]

I've heard of an open allocation in Van Alstyne, You'd think the only open Freq in DFW would be highly sought after.

The allocation is still there, since two recent applications were turned down, both from non-comms. But just because 99.9 is vacant doesn't mean it's that desirable; it's a Class A with no real possibility of an upgrade, even to a C3. With a reference site about six miles east of Van Alstyne and a nominal city-grade radius of roughly ten miles, it would barely be worth the effort.