What Is The Best Frequency For A Classic Rap Hiphop R&B Station??

[radiothrowback]

Whoever PURPLEDEVIL is...You are well versed in your Houston Radio History.. I think you spoke on every station that I've worked on in this city somewhere in this thread.

Good Stuff... Good Post....Good History Knowledge!

Respect

 

[purpledevil]

Thank you very much.

 

[sdh483]

While i disagree on everyone bashing the OP on his thread, I have to agree with the fact that a classic hip hop station won't work. However, a classic late 80s-early 00's "Gen X" format that mixes rock, pop, hip hop and dance that were part of the top 40 of the era could be a better choice. My wife and I enjoy Gen X 103.3 in Baton Rouge when we venture out into Louisiana. I get my rock, she gets her pop and hip hop on that station. We're both satisfied. With people who were teens in that era are older now, this could be a doable format. Just don't go The Point's direction and play the crap out of Journey and Third Eye Blind, add some rhythmic into the mix. http://www.1033x.com/

 

[purpledevil]

I felt the same way when I saw him being ganged up on. Hopefully my response came across the way it was intended and not taken as any type of bashing of the DJ. I kind of like his posts. He's been posting for quite a long while and he typically has a pretty good finger on the pulse of these boards. I'd like to see him get his rap station, just to throw a little flavor into our usually blah selection of stations. I just know, as do you, that it's just not going to happen here in Houston on a full blown FM stick.

...and thank you for the link sdh483. I didn't know Jack FM had flipped to Generation X. I'm going to check them out.

 

[ksradiogeek]

96.5 is NOT going to flip. I would like to see it, because it needs to reduce duplication of 95.7. Then again, they were the first Mix in the US. As for a frequency to put it on, I would see an HD-fed FM translator, which will never sign on because the dial in Houston is crowded.

 

[Mediafrog+]

As for a frequency to put it on, I would see an HD-fed FM translator, which will never sign on because the dial in Houston is crowded.

There are still quite a few empty second adjacents where translators and LPFM's could go: 92.5, 94.1, 94.9, 95.3, 96.1, 101.5, 101.7, 102.5, 104.5, 106.1. In fact there are numerous applications on file with the FCC for such stations. Word is the FCC is finally going to start moving on these in the near future.

A good example of a nearby market where the band is completely full would be DFW, with the recent addition of a number of translators.

 

[johndavis]

96.5 is NOT going to flip. I would like to see it, because it needs to reduce duplication of 95.7. Then again, they were the first Mix in the US.

Actually, the first Mix in the US was Orlando. Nationwide & John Coleman put together its formula and tweaked it there on the former BJ-105 before taking it to Houston. WOMX launched in September 1989. KHMX came along in July 1990.

 

[mr.ric]

I felt the same way when I saw him being ganged up on. Hopefully my response came across the way it was intended and not taken as any type of bashing of the DJ. I kind of like his posts. He's been posting for quite a long while and he typically has a pretty good finger on the pulse of these boards. I'd like to see him get his rap station, just to throw a little flavor into our usually blah selection of stations. I just know, as do you, that it's just not going to happen here in Houston on a full blown FM stick.

...and thank you for the link sdh483. I didn't know Jack FM had flipped to Generation X. I'm going to check them out.

Sometimes if the topic is anywhere related to an Urban format in Houston, it will always get ganged up on for no apparent reason, which is just ridiculous in my opinion. But i agree both djboutit and also purpledevil have some informative and pretty good posts.

And it does sound reasonable now that you break it down that a classic hip hop station wouldn't work on the main airwaves, but might work better on an HD format (probably 97.9 HD2). What i would love on the main airwaves is an adult-leaning Urban station in this market that could take away from KBXX and KMJQ, something similar to WVEE in Atlanta. After all, their numbers are probably so high someone could probably take a piece of that pie.

But since nobody wants to attempt that, i sometimes wonder how much it would be to buy one of these frequencies on the FM dial, and of course the cost of starting up one, plus legal fees, etc. An inquiring mind might want to know.

 

[bringbackradio]

I felt the same way when I saw him being ganged up on. Hopefully my response came across the way it was intended and not taken as any type of bashing of the DJ. I kind of like his posts. He's been posting for quite a long while and he typically has a pretty good finger on the pulse of these boards. I'd like to see him get his rap station, just to throw a little flavor into our usually blah selection of stations. I just know, as do you, that it's just not going to happen here in Houston on a full blown FM stick.

...and thank you for the link sdh483. I didn't know Jack FM had flipped to Generation X. I'm going to check them out.

Sometimes if the topic is anywhere related to an Urban format in Houston, it will always get ganged up on for no apparent reason, which is just ridiculous in my opinion. But i agree both djboutit and also purpledevil have some informative and pretty good posts.

And it does sound reasonable now that you break it down that a classic hip hop station wouldn't work on the main airwaves, but might work better on an HD format (probably 97.9 HD2). What i would love on the main airwaves is an adult-leaning Urban station in this market that could take away from KBXX and KMJQ, something similar to WVEE in Atlanta. After all, their numbers are probably so high someone could probably take a piece of that pie.

But since nobody wants to attempt that, i sometimes wonder how much it would be to buy one of these frequencies on the FM dial, and of course the cost of starting up one, plus legal fees, etc. An inquiring mind might want to know.

I felt the same way when I saw him being ganged up on. Hopefully my response came across the way it was intended and not taken as any type of bashing of the DJ. I kind of like his posts. He's been posting for quite a long while and he typically has a pretty good finger on the pulse of these boards. I'd like to see him get his rap station, just to throw a little flavor into our usually blah selection of stations. I just know, as do you, that it's just not going to happen here in Houston on a full blown FM stick.

...and thank you for the link sdh483. I didn't know Jack FM had flipped to Generation X. I'm going to check them out.

Sometimes if the topic is anywhere related to an Urban format in Houston, it will always get ganged up on for no apparent reason, which is just ridiculous in my opinion. But i agree both djboutit and also purpledevil have some informative and pretty good posts.

And it does sound reasonable now that you break it down that a classic hip hop station wouldn't work on the main airwaves, but might work better on an HD format (probably 97.9 HD2). What i would love on the main airwaves is an adult-leaning Urban station in this market that could take away from KBXX and KMJQ, something similar to WVEE in Atlanta. After all, their numbers are probably so high someone could probably take a piece of that pie.

But since nobody wants to attempt that, i sometimes wonder how much it would be to buy one of these frequencies on the FM dial, and of course the cost of starting up one, plus legal fees, etc. An inquiring mind might want to know.

Agreed on the second paragraph. KMJQ and KBXX do need competition because those two stations are among the Top 5 most listened to in Houston but they have gotten way too comfortable with their lackluster playlist rotation. KBXX plays the same stuff every two hours and less, while KMJQ runs all the oldies in the ground because they don't want to put some songs on the shelf for awhile and dig for others that haven't been heard in ages. I would like to see 95.7 ditch the pop format for the same format WVEE and WPGC utilize, since CBS owns it. KKHH ranks in the bottom Top 20 in ratings compared to KRBE, so there is hope for a straightforward urban CONTEMPORARY format here as opposed to just the mainstream and AC urban variations. Something that sounds like KTCX in Beaumont can work and be a format bridge, plus it will be on a full powered signal since KTHT, KRWP and KPTY never had the chance with the rimshots.

 

[bringbackradio]

I felt the same way when I saw him being ganged up on. Hopefully my response came across the way it was intended and not taken as any type of bashing of the DJ. I kind of like his posts. He's been posting for quite a long while and he typically has a pretty good finger on the pulse of these boards. I'd like to see him get his rap station, just to throw a little flavor into our usually blah selection of stations. I just know, as do you, that it's just not going to happen here in Houston on a full blown FM stick.

...and thank you for the link sdh483. I didn't know Jack FM had flipped to Generation X. I'm going to check them out.

Sometimes if the topic is anywhere related to an Urban format in Houston, it will always get ganged up on for no apparent reason, which is just ridiculous in my opinion. But i agree both djboutit and also purpledevil have some informative and pretty good posts.

And it does sound reasonable now that you break it down that a classic hip hop station wouldn't work on the main airwaves, but might work better on an HD format (probably 97.9 HD2). What i would love on the main airwaves is an adult-leaning Urban station in this market that could take away from KBXX and KMJQ, something similar to WVEE in Atlanta. After all, their numbers are probably so high someone could probably take a piece of that pie.

But since nobody wants to attempt that, i sometimes wonder how much it would be to buy one of these frequencies on the FM dial, and of course the cost of starting up one, plus legal fees, etc. An inquiring mind might want to know.

I felt the same way when I saw him being ganged up on. Hopefully my response came across the way it was intended and not taken as any type of bashing of the DJ. I kind of like his posts. He's been posting for quite a long while and he typically has a pretty good finger on the pulse of these boards. I'd like to see him get his rap station, just to throw a little flavor into our usually blah selection of stations. I just know, as do you, that it's just not going to happen here in Houston on a full blown FM stick.

...and thank you for the link sdh483. I didn't know Jack FM had flipped to Generation X. I'm going to check them out.

Sometimes if the topic is anywhere related to an Urban format in Houston, it will always get ganged up on for no apparent reason, which is just ridiculous in my opinion. But i agree both djboutit and also purpledevil have some informative and pretty good posts.

And it does sound reasonable now that you break it down that a classic hip hop station wouldn't work on the main airwaves, but might work better on an HD format (probably 97.9 HD2). What i would love on the main airwaves is an adult-leaning Urban station in this market that could take away from KBXX and KMJQ, something similar to WVEE in Atlanta. After all, their numbers are probably so high someone could probably take a piece of that pie.

But since nobody wants to attempt that, i sometimes wonder how much it would be to buy one of these frequencies on the FM dial, and of course the cost of starting up one, plus legal fees, etc. An inquiring mind might want to know.

Agreed on the second paragraph. KMJQ and KBXX do need competition because those two stations are among the Top 5 most listened to in Houston but they have gotten way too comfortable with their lackluster playlist rotation. KBXX plays the same stuff every two hours and less, while KMJQ runs all the oldies in the ground because they don't want to put some songs on the shelf for awhile and dig for others that haven't been heard in ages. I would like to see 95.7 ditch the pop format for the same format WVEE and WPGC utilize, since CBS owns it. KKHH ranks in the bottom Top 20 in ratings compared to KRBE, so there is hope for a straightforward urban CONTEMPORARY format here as opposed to just the mainstream and AC urban variations. Something that sounds like KTCX in Beaumont can work and be a format bridge, plus it will be on a full powered signal since KTHT, KRWP, KHYS/KTJM and KPTY never had the chance with the rimshots.

 

[johndavis]

KKHH ranks in the bottom Top 20 in ratings compared to KRBE,

What numbers are you looking at? That take doesn't seem to match reality.

 

[willdav713]

96.5 is NOT going to flip. I would like to see it, because it needs to reduce duplication of 95.7. Then again, they were the first Mix in the US. As for a frequency to put it on, I would see an HD-fed FM translator, which will never sign on because the dial in Houston is crowded.

Acutally they were the second Mix, the first one was in Boston, Mass. WHMX.

 

[rageradio]

No KHMX was the prototype for the Mix format. Launching in July of 1990. Boston's Mix launched in February of 91

 

[johndavis]

No KHMX was the prototype for the Mix format. Launching in July of 1990. Boston's Mix launched in February of 91

Actually, the prototype was WOMX Orlando. After Nationwide tweaked it there in 1989 off of everyone's radar, they did Houston a year later. Then everyone came along and ripped it off after seeing what happened in Houston.

There were at least three Nationwide Communications CHR to Mix conversions using the John Coleman playbook, in order: WOMX Orlando (1989), KHMX Houston (1990), and KVRY Phoenix in 1991 (Variety - my former employer, EZ Communications, beat NCI to the Mix name first in that city).

Incidentally, CBS ended up owning Orlando and Houston eventually.

 

[rageradio]

Back on the subject.. any frequency on the dial is suitable for this or any format for that matter. Its only a matter of the powers that be wanting to run with it. Can they sell it? Its all about the Benjamins, baby.

 

[johndavis]

Back on the subject.. any frequency on the dial is suitable for this or any format for that matter. Its only a matter of the powers that be wanting to run with it. Can they sell it? Its all about the Benjamins, baby.

And that part of radio has never changed. Even when the owner of the station sat in the corner office, it's always been about whether or not the community can $upport it.

 

[Ai4i]

I can't believe I am the first to suggest an HD sub-channel