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What songs "don't you get" on your favorite Christian station?

Smashed,
In the church I grew up in the youth leaders accepted some AC CCM, but no Christian rock. However anything country was considered OK. I wasn't on this particular youth trip in the church van, but I heard about that on the trip that they were playing Garth Brooks and singing along with Friends in Low Places. Yet we couldn't bring anything except the softest CCM tapes, and no Christian rock. ??? :eek: ::) :-\


Back in the summer of '85 or '86 I did a camp for an association of churches in my denomination and the majority of the Pastors said I could introduce the kids to CCM and CCM-Rock...They were mostly kids from urban/suburban Detroit and Flint who's parents were raised in the south and moved to the upper midwest to work in the auto industry in the forties and fifties...Their local churches were very 'Stamps-Baxter' and country in feel...These churches would grow to about 100 to 200 members and stop growing because the locals around them were raised in the city and their churches were extensions of the 'church back home'.... Nothing wrong with that, but it started the decline of those outreaches as their kids and grandkids grew and became disinterested in the worship and local church...These youth were city kids and wanted to express their Faith in a new way... Well, I was somewhat shy about giving them the works, as I did a CCM-Rock show on our local secular CHR every Sunday while I was in seminary...But, I gave them a dose... The one older Pastor I knew was an ol' Missouri mule wasn't too keen on it, but thought I offered the CCM thing as an option, without downtalking his preference... The big suprise came the second night....The most educated pastor there had a doctorate in music and was into high church inspo....He had always preached down the oversimpified country sounds in church and the bang your head rock....Organ, Orchestra, Piano and Massive Choir guy who could play with any Philhormonic or Symphony in America.... I noticed he just sat and smiled while I used my CCM illustrations during the first couple of micro-sermons to the kids.....I thought he was building up a load to dump on me, at the right time....That night was 'Destination Unkown'...A trip in the later night 'free time' to a place where the kids had no knowledge of... His kids wanted me to ride shotgun in their van with him (we were headed to a Put-Put in Waterford Heights near Detroit)....I thought he'd challenge me with his kids backing him or challenging him... As we pulled out of the camp in Lepear, MI, he said he wanted me to hear his favorite new Christian cassette and the kids were more than happy he wanted to put it in.... Suprise!!!! He said the parents of his church were tired of wasted time arguing and ask him to go to just ONE CCM concert in Detroit and take the Jr. and Sr. Highs.....If he didn't think it honored God, they would never challenge him again about his view.... He took over 30 kids (of which half were from non-church families and had not professed a Faith in Christ).....Ten kids gave their lives to Jesus that night and he felt that more Ministry had been shared verbal and musically than all the traditional Christian music concerts he had attended in over 20 years.....The tape??? The group that played at Cobo Hall in Detroit???? PETRA....LP/Cassette: "MORE POWER TO YA'!".... That was a neat experience.....
 
skippertthomas said:
Smashed,
In the church I grew up in the youth leaders accepted some AC CCM, but no Christian rock. However anything country was considered OK. I wasn't on this particular youth trip in the church van, but I heard about that on the trip that they were playing Garth Brooks and singing along with Friends in Low Places. Yet we couldn't bring anything except the softest CCM tapes, and no Christian rock. ??? :eek: ::) :-\


Back in the summer of '85 or '86 I did a camp for an association of churches in my denomination and the majority of the Pastors said I could introduce the kids to CCM and CCM-Rock...They were mostly kids from urban/suburban Detroit and Flint who's parents were raised in the south and moved to the upper midwest to work in the auto industry in the forties and fifties...Their local churches were very 'Stamps-Baxter' and country in feel...These churches would grow to about 100 to 200 members and stop growing because the locals around them were raised in the city and their churches were extensions of the 'church back home'.... Nothing wrong with that, but it started the decline of those outreaches as their kids and grandkids grew and became disinterested in the worship and local church...These youth were city kids and wanted to express their Faith in a new way... Well, I was somewhat shy about giving them the works, as I did a CCM-Rock show on our local secular CHR every Sunday while I was in seminary...But, I gave them a dose... The one older Pastor I knew was an ol' Missouri mule wasn't too keen on it, but thought I offered the CCM thing as an option, without downtalking his preference... The big suprise came the second night....The most educated pastor there had a doctorate in music and was into high church inspo....He had always preached down the oversimpified country sounds in church and the bang your head rock....Organ, Orchestra, Piano and Massive Choir guy who could play with any Philhormonic or Symphony in America.... I noticed he just sat and smiled while I used my CCM illustrations during the first couple of micro-sermons to the kids.....I thought he was building up a load to dump on me, at the right time....That night was 'Destination Unkown'...A trip in the later night 'free time' to a place where the kids had no knowledge of... His kids wanted me to ride shotgun in their van with him (we were headed to a Put-Put in Waterford Heights near Detroit)....I thought he'd challenge me with his kids backing him or challenging him... As we pulled out of the camp in Lepear, MI, he said he wanted me to hear his favorite new Christian cassette and the kids were more than happy he wanted to put it in.... Suprise!!!! He said the parents of his church were tired of wasted time arguing and ask him to go to just ONE CCM concert in Detroit and take the Jr. and Sr. Highs.....If he didn't think it honored God, they would never challenge him again about his view.... He took over 30 kids (of which half were from non-church families and had not professed a Faith in Christ).....Ten kids gave their lives to Jesus that night and he felt that more Ministry had been shared verbal and musically than all the traditional Christian music concerts he had attended in over 20 years.....The tape??? The group that played at Cobo Hall in Detroit???? PETRA....LP/Cassette: "MORE POWER TO YA'!".... That was a neat experience.....
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in my current hometown there is a church that says ccm is ok but says christian rock is the devils music. the church is a southern baptist church that has a contemporary praise and worship service. one of the guys at the church told me that if he was going to listen to rock music it would be ac/dc and boston. because christian rock music was no diffrent. yes i know i am in louisiana and i know its regional but i still cant believe that is still being taught in 2006. are there churches outside of this area still teaching this?
 
One Sunday morning at my church, as the drummer was getting situated and the lead guitarist was getting plugged in, the two warmed up for 30-45 seconds with what sounded a whole lot like "Walk This Way." :) The worship pastor smiled and would have joined in had he not had only his acoustic that week. A few weeks after that, those three plus a bass player warmed up with something that I think was Led Zeppelin. (These were at 7:30 in the morning before the pre-service final rehearsal.)

A few weeks later, just a couple of minutes before each of the services started, the band loaded the stage and improvised a jazzy something-or-other as a prelude...it was obvious they were having a ton of fun, and they got ovations each time.

We're as theologically conservative as they come, by the way, but we're contemporary and casual otherwise.
 
We're as theologically conservative as they come, by the way, but we're
contemporary and casual otherwise.
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so where are you then? sounds like my kind of place..as long as contemporary doesnt mean..catering only to 35 year old women that is..
 
smashedcd said:
sounds like my kind of place..as long as contemporary doesnt mean..catering only to 35 year old women that is..
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It's pop-oriented....meaning, yes, like a contemporary AC and likely targeted right in the neighborhood of women around 40. That's just how these things are done.
 
One of the stations I oversee the transmitter for is a Conservative Independent Baptist outlet that makes no bones about KJV Only....Old fashioned white bread music.... But, I have to admit, their Pastor may hold to his convictions on CCM and the such, but he always states that we that do use the 'modern' approcah have our Salvation to work out daily... He has never threatened me for having the new rock/alternative/theocratic format on my LPFM ( the coffee shop runs ).... In fact, we have a better one on one than I do with most in the CCM relm.... Agree to disagree, I guess...However, several of the Pastors from the other Independent churches, nationwide that provide preaching and teaching programs to his station are very 'foam at the mouth' against it and treat those that use it as harlots of the church.... I can almost guess that within a thirty minute period they yak on it two to three times...They've got to get it in and cry that the church is dying because of it... In some cases, it might be, if that's the local church's purpose is method over matter..But that can swing both ways......Cut through all the method and let's see what we've got at the core...A New Covenant/Testament congregation or not???? Something to think about...
 
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