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What stations does K-Love compete with specifically? If you can't say don't bother.
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brian_marchand
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Re: What stations does K-Love compete with specifically? If you can't say don't bother.
In reality it's called I don't care. Yes I say that because I am very frustrated at you. I only wanted a list of stations. What you said you did not care about. Not a list of stations because I don't don't know. I already now. But to have an intelligent conversation. Because I don't like it when people say something without the facts. And the facts I mean are lists of radio station in every market. That is where you come in again and so you don't care. So why are you posting on my topic when I wanted that? You can start your own topic.
What I really enjoy is knowing what every christian station in america is. Then I put them on a map to get the big picture. You don't care about that so we really have nothing to talk about. On the other hand, I do not care about talk of radio jobs that this turned into and how good or bad EMF is. I don't care about how good or bad they are.
In reality it's called I don't care. Yes I say that because I am very frustrated at you. I only wanted a list of stations. What you said you did not care about. Not a list of stations because I don't don't know. I already now. But to have an intelligent conversation. Because I don't like it when people say something without the facts. And the facts I mean are lists of radio station in every market. That is where you come in again and so you don't care. So why are you posting on my topic when I wanted that? You can start your own topic.
What I really enjoy is knowing what every christian station in america is. Then I put them on a map to get the big picture. You don't care about that so we really have nothing to talk about. On the other hand, I do not care about talk of radio jobs that this turned into and how good or bad EMF is. I don't care about how good or bad they are.
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brian_marchand
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Re: What stations does K-Love compete with specifically? If you can't say don't bother.
> Brian, here is the simple answer, go down the K-love list of
> stations, go down the stations in each area you see a
> K-love. That is who they compete with, don't worry about
> formats, it doesn't matter.
>
Sorry but that is a terrible reply. I know you do not understand me or anyhting I have said. I already know who K-Love competes with. I am not asking anyone for anything I don't already know. Does anyone undertstand? You don't care about me or what a I asked so what's the point. I wanted people to know that K-Love is not in markets with other non-commercials ccm station that are all AC music. Except for a couple of times. I don't defend K-Love for what they do and am not their spokesman.. I just wanted people to know the facts instead of posting things like "K-Love is usually in markets where another non-commercial adult AC are".
> Brian, here is the simple answer, go down the K-love list of
> stations, go down the stations in each area you see a
> K-love. That is who they compete with, don't worry about
> formats, it doesn't matter.
>
Sorry but that is a terrible reply. I know you do not understand me or anyhting I have said. I already know who K-Love competes with. I am not asking anyone for anything I don't already know. Does anyone undertstand? You don't care about me or what a I asked so what's the point. I wanted people to know that K-Love is not in markets with other non-commercials ccm station that are all AC music. Except for a couple of times. I don't defend K-Love for what they do and am not their spokesman.. I just wanted people to know the facts instead of posting things like "K-Love is usually in markets where another non-commercial adult AC are".
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brian_marchand
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Re: What stations does K-Love compete with specifically? If you can't say don't bother.
> > Brian, here is the simple answer, go down the K-love list
> of
> > stations, go down the stations in each area you see a
> > K-love. That is who they compete with, don't worry about
> > formats, it doesn't matter. Then reverse it, go down the
> stations who are in K-love's area and that is who competes
> with K-love. All taken care of and you said you know all the
> stations so it should be easy.
> >
>
Are you crazy?
I answered you in my above response.
But I guess you have not cared to understand anything i said. I was never asking anyone who competes with them as as if I wanted the information. I was proving to people that K-Love is not in may markets with other non-comm AC's. I knew they could not answer me. The reason I asked it because people act like they are in competion with them. I am not interested in all the garbage posted below. Yes I am mad.
I will go on with my map of ccm stations you don't care about. People on here are not interested in what I am interested in.
> > Brian, here is the simple answer, go down the K-love list
> of
> > stations, go down the stations in each area you see a
> > K-love. That is who they compete with, don't worry about
> > formats, it doesn't matter. Then reverse it, go down the
> stations who are in K-love's area and that is who competes
> with K-love. All taken care of and you said you know all the
> stations so it should be easy.
> >
>
Are you crazy?
I answered you in my above response.
But I guess you have not cared to understand anything i said. I was never asking anyone who competes with them as as if I wanted the information. I was proving to people that K-Love is not in may markets with other non-comm AC's. I knew they could not answer me. The reason I asked it because people act like they are in competion with them. I am not interested in all the garbage posted below. Yes I am mad.
I will go on with my map of ccm stations you don't care about. People on here are not interested in what I am interested in.
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brian_marchand
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Re: Scooterodell...
Seriously, would you please shut up and leave me alone. We can agree we don't like each other and leave it. I forgive you and ask the God to forgive me and you to forgive me because we must forgive others and not hold anything against each other. But we do not get along and it is best to leave it at that. Not everyone can get along with everyone.
> > > I liked your post.
> >
> > "It was an intelligent, non-offensive calm post in good
> > spirit. But it was completely off topic and what I feared
> > that people can not talk about what I wanted to. So I did
> > not like it and wished it would not have been posted."
>
> Wishing the post away will not make it go away. Why not hide
> your eyes and then you can't see it.
> >
>
Seriously, would you please shut up and leave me alone. We can agree we don't like each other and leave it. I forgive you and ask the God to forgive me and you to forgive me because we must forgive others and not hold anything against each other. But we do not get along and it is best to leave it at that. Not everyone can get along with everyone.
> > > I liked your post.
> >
> > "It was an intelligent, non-offensive calm post in good
> > spirit. But it was completely off topic and what I feared
> > that people can not talk about what I wanted to. So I did
> > not like it and wished it would not have been posted."
>
> Wishing the post away will not make it go away. Why not hide
> your eyes and then you can't see it
.> >
>
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brian_marchand
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Re: Reply and Regarding threads as this...
> > I think you speak from your head and I speak from my
> heart.
>
> Rather unusual for a male, isn't it?
>
>
Most males are very logical and unfeeling. But not all. I wear my feeling on my sleave. Most woman are more feeling but i have meet many who are not. You are a logical thinking type. I thought you were a woman but we know that is a secret.
> > But I admit i sometimes have trouble understanding
> thinking
> > people as compared to feeling people.
>
> Very disturbing coming from someone who's wanting to argue
> this whole thing in the narrowest of terms and as if it's
> all so cut-and-dried.
>
> ..
Disturbing? You know let me be honest. I do not like you either. I hate your responses and let us leave it at that. I love you in Christ and forgive you for anything you would do but I don't like you. You come across as very arrogant and offensive and I don't agree with any thing you say. And hate you have to hide behind a false name. You said I speak of narrowiest of terms. I can do what I want without arrogant comments. You come across as someone who thinks of themselves as far superior to anyone. I hate that and hate reading anything you have to say. I would ask to that you leave me alone because we would not get along. I think what I asked was good. I don't care what you think. You obvious have nothing to contribute because everything is a secret. I was never and am not know not asking for you opinion or anyone elses. I hoped you would not say anything. What I asked was clear. Why does everything think they have to comment on it. And it is not narrow. You either have comercial or non-commercial AC chrisian radio. That is not very hard. But don't forget I never asked your opinion. And don't want it now.
> > Finally I was not asking people for information about any
> > radio stations for myself. It was challenge I already knew
>
> > the anwser to. Of course there are always things to
> learn...
>
> It's good you "feel that way" because I just thought of
> three in less than a minute (yes, even using your absurd and
> unrealistic criteria)and could even name a place where EMF
> wants to do one of those "move a channel assignment 50 or
> 100 miles" to get it to a place where it would compete
> directly with an existing station...
>
> No, I won't tell you what or where they are. Whenever I see
> someone with this incredible level of confidence, I
> generally like to sit back and help the "learning
> experience" along...
>
I don't care what you know if you can not say. Please do not say you know something and then say you can't say. That is sooooo dumb. Not to mention boasting. Did I ask " please tell me all the info you know that you can't tell me"? That makes me so mad. No I did not. I do not like you and you do not like me either. Lets leave it at that so we don't have to talk anymore.
No one knows everything but it is obvious I can't have the kind of discussion I wanted. I have no overwelming confidence I know everything. I am only saying I have a map with most ccm stations. With 100000watts I can keep it mostly up to date and reading other sites like R&R. But what you expressed was I did not know any markets and was asking others for help. Your arrogance make me so mad. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by brian_marchand on 10/27/05 08:06 AM.</FONT></P>
> > I think you speak from your head and I speak from my
> heart.
>
> Rather unusual for a male, isn't it?
>
>
Most males are very logical and unfeeling. But not all. I wear my feeling on my sleave. Most woman are more feeling but i have meet many who are not. You are a logical thinking type. I thought you were a woman but we know that is a secret.
> > But I admit i sometimes have trouble understanding
> thinking
> > people as compared to feeling people.
>
> Very disturbing coming from someone who's wanting to argue
> this whole thing in the narrowest of terms and as if it's
> all so cut-and-dried.
>
> ..
Disturbing? You know let me be honest. I do not like you either. I hate your responses and let us leave it at that. I love you in Christ and forgive you for anything you would do but I don't like you. You come across as very arrogant and offensive and I don't agree with any thing you say. And hate you have to hide behind a false name. You said I speak of narrowiest of terms. I can do what I want without arrogant comments. You come across as someone who thinks of themselves as far superior to anyone. I hate that and hate reading anything you have to say. I would ask to that you leave me alone because we would not get along. I think what I asked was good. I don't care what you think. You obvious have nothing to contribute because everything is a secret. I was never and am not know not asking for you opinion or anyone elses. I hoped you would not say anything. What I asked was clear. Why does everything think they have to comment on it. And it is not narrow. You either have comercial or non-commercial AC chrisian radio. That is not very hard. But don't forget I never asked your opinion. And don't want it now.
> > Finally I was not asking people for information about any
> > radio stations for myself. It was challenge I already knew
>
> > the anwser to. Of course there are always things to
> learn...
>
> It's good you "feel that way" because I just thought of
> three in less than a minute (yes, even using your absurd and
> unrealistic criteria)and could even name a place where EMF
> wants to do one of those "move a channel assignment 50 or
> 100 miles" to get it to a place where it would compete
> directly with an existing station...
>
> No, I won't tell you what or where they are. Whenever I see
> someone with this incredible level of confidence, I
> generally like to sit back and help the "learning
> experience" along...
>
I don't care what you know if you can not say. Please do not say you know something and then say you can't say. That is sooooo dumb. Not to mention boasting. Did I ask " please tell me all the info you know that you can't tell me"? That makes me so mad. No I did not. I do not like you and you do not like me either. Lets leave it at that so we don't have to talk anymore.
No one knows everything but it is obvious I can't have the kind of discussion I wanted. I have no overwelming confidence I know everything. I am only saying I have a map with most ccm stations. With 100000watts I can keep it mostly up to date and reading other sites like R&R. But what you expressed was I did not know any markets and was asking others for help. Your arrogance make me so mad. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by brian_marchand on 10/27/05 08:06 AM.</FONT></P>
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brian_marchand
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Re: You Know What Scares Me?
> It scares me that this all might just be real!
>
Youu scare me that you could actually be in christian radio. You are so arragont and condensending.
> It scares me that this all might just be real!
>
Youu scare me that you could actually be in christian radio. You are so arragont and condensending.
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brian_marchand
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To neautral observer and whatzthat
I did not ask for any comments about about what I asked and did not want any. A couple of people who wish to remain unknown seem to think it is their duty to comment on everything and give their their GREAT wisdom. That makes me mad. And it is arrogant. Please I ask spare from your great wisdom. I do not like how you represent yourself so it is no wonder you wish to remain unknown. All I ask is to leave me alone. I asked a simple question and nothing more. If you can't say a radio station then don't talk to me. I am not arrogant. I just don't believe in endless gossip from arrogant people. Specically that is neutral observer and whatzthat. You 2 are so full of yourselfs. Never talk to me again I beg you.
I did not ask for any comments about about what I asked and did not want any. A couple of people who wish to remain unknown seem to think it is their duty to comment on everything and give their their GREAT wisdom. That makes me mad. And it is arrogant. Please I ask spare from your great wisdom. I do not like how you represent yourself so it is no wonder you wish to remain unknown. All I ask is to leave me alone. I asked a simple question and nothing more. If you can't say a radio station then don't talk to me. I am not arrogant. I just don't believe in endless gossip from arrogant people. Specically that is neutral observer and whatzthat. You 2 are so full of yourselfs. Never talk to me again I beg you.
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CPAlistener
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Re: thanks but WRXV is rock not AC
I'm not sure where you got your information, but it is wrong. WRXV WAS CHR/Rock for the first 3 months (June 1994) after it went on the air, but quickly changed to Hot AC/Lite CHR when support wasn't coming in for the Rock format. This change to Hot AC was made 6 months BEFORE K-love came to town. WRXV is a lot more focused on hits than K-Love but their playlists are about 80%-90% the same at any given time. Right now, WRXV is currently playing 12 of K-love's top 15 songs. You see that same type of variation from one secular AC station to the competing AC station in any given market. So, K-Love IS directly competing with WRXV in the State College market.
Now that is the kind of discussion I wanted. But WRXV is
> chr/rock and almost a totally different format then K-Love.
> Air1 would be competion. So I think it is good K-Love should
> is there as the only adult ccm station. There are 2
> different formats. I asked what other adult AC format they
> competed with. It is another discussion how much overlap
> there is between christian rock and christian AC. But I
> would want both formats where I live. So in my mind K-Love
> has a right to be there.
>
>
>
> > I can name one. WRXV Rev FM 89.1 in State College, PA.
> 10
> > months after the new WRXV CCM formatted station signed on
> > the air, EMF signed an lease-time agreement on a full
> power
> > station serving the same area. The satellite dish that
> > picks up the K-Love feed sits less than 4 miles from the
> > studio of WRXV. It's hard enough to start a new radio
> > station, but to face competition from a well established
> > network who can buy their way into the market is really
> > tough!
> >
> > What's worse, the owners of the local station were a part
> of
> > a seminar with Dick Jenkins, president of EMF at GMA Week
> > back in 2000. Mr. Jenkins promised EMF/K-Love would never
>
> > come into a market with a local CCM station. When the
> > owners of WRXV confronted Mr. Jenkins on it, he produced a
>
> > coverage map that supposedly showed they weren't in
> > competition because their 70dbu contours barely
> overlapped.
> > The FCC doesn't use 70dbu contours when determining
> service
> > area for non-commercial radio stations, they use the 60dbu
>
> > contour. Basically, Mr. Jenkins just wanted to justify
> > breaking his promise.
> >
> > I think it's great that unserved areas can get a CCM
> format
> > through K-Love, but it's not very Christ-like of EMF to
> come
> > in and crush the dreams laid on the hearts of local people
>
> > who worked for over a decade to bring a local CCM station
> on
> > the air -- Just because EMF has the money to do it.
> >
>
I'm not sure where you got your information, but it is wrong. WRXV WAS CHR/Rock for the first 3 months (June 1994) after it went on the air, but quickly changed to Hot AC/Lite CHR when support wasn't coming in for the Rock format. This change to Hot AC was made 6 months BEFORE K-love came to town. WRXV is a lot more focused on hits than K-Love but their playlists are about 80%-90% the same at any given time. Right now, WRXV is currently playing 12 of K-love's top 15 songs. You see that same type of variation from one secular AC station to the competing AC station in any given market. So, K-Love IS directly competing with WRXV in the State College market.
Now that is the kind of discussion I wanted. But WRXV is
> chr/rock and almost a totally different format then K-Love.
> Air1 would be competion. So I think it is good K-Love should
> is there as the only adult ccm station. There are 2
> different formats. I asked what other adult AC format they
> competed with. It is another discussion how much overlap
> there is between christian rock and christian AC. But I
> would want both formats where I live. So in my mind K-Love
> has a right to be there.
>
>
>
> > I can name one. WRXV Rev FM 89.1 in State College, PA.
> 10
> > months after the new WRXV CCM formatted station signed on
> > the air, EMF signed an lease-time agreement on a full
> power
> > station serving the same area. The satellite dish that
> > picks up the K-Love feed sits less than 4 miles from the
> > studio of WRXV. It's hard enough to start a new radio
> > station, but to face competition from a well established
> > network who can buy their way into the market is really
> > tough!
> >
> > What's worse, the owners of the local station were a part
> of
> > a seminar with Dick Jenkins, president of EMF at GMA Week
> > back in 2000. Mr. Jenkins promised EMF/K-Love would never
>
> > come into a market with a local CCM station. When the
> > owners of WRXV confronted Mr. Jenkins on it, he produced a
>
> > coverage map that supposedly showed they weren't in
> > competition because their 70dbu contours barely
> overlapped.
> > The FCC doesn't use 70dbu contours when determining
> service
> > area for non-commercial radio stations, they use the 60dbu
>
> > contour. Basically, Mr. Jenkins just wanted to justify
> > breaking his promise.
> >
> > I think it's great that unserved areas can get a CCM
> format
> > through K-Love, but it's not very Christ-like of EMF to
> come
> > in and crush the dreams laid on the hearts of local people
>
> > who worked for over a decade to bring a local CCM station
> on
> > the air -- Just because EMF has the money to do it.
> >
>
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brian_marchand
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SOS network and a couple others
Klove is getting into some of the SOS radio network area. K-Love has applied to increase power on new KEKL 88.5 to reach Las Vegas better where KSOS is. And Klove has a recent sign on in the Idaho Falls area. SOS reaches Idaho Falls with translators currently with KCIR being in Twin Falls. SOS has a new CP at 91.7 for Idaho Falls though. And K-Love has a new CP KVKL south of Las Vegas. EMF does not own those station but LMA's them. The SOS netowrk has a few programs but is non-commercial.
And K-Love will reach Louisville, KY better with a CP WJLR has. WJIE is aalso a non-commercial station in KY.
I am aware of almost everything K-Love is doing or 90 percent at least although of course I don't have all the details.
In Albuqueque, NM air1 has a new CP for 90.7. That will compete with chr KLYT.
In the Greenville, NC area both WBFJ and K-Loves WKVE can be picked up.
In many markets there are some overlap in areas like that. It is not really worth my time though to go thru all 300 or whatever K-Love stations like that. Arguements can be made why EMF is there but I do not want to argue myself about it. I only stated a few. I don't need to ask anyone what they are because I plotted each K-Love out on a map from Radio-Locator.com and put them on an atlas. If you want somethong you have to do it yourself. I did that 15 years ago and still keep up with it today. I am certainly not asking smart mouthed people like neutral oberserver or whatzthat anything. I was not asking anyone anything. sure I was asking to list an area you think EMF should not be. But not for personal opinions. I don't care about those. That would be just to wine. But I was making a point that really most K-Loves or Air's serve most of their markey alone as far as noncommercial ccm is concerned. But then some brings up commercial stations. I want to say give me a break. Can't I chose a topic without everyone thing they have to help me out and give their editorials. Maybe some people like to listen to non-commercial and leave it at that. I was comparing like stations. And even if they if was in the same market with another non-commercail ccm I do not care one bit. Just the oppiste I would want it. As I listener I wish there were 2 or more ccm's to listen to. It is the broadcaster who gets worried. Let them worry without me having to hear it. I wish EMF was in Springfield, IL where I am. I want variety and let the best one stand. Of course I don't care about local content. It is one one's job is lost you really start to worry about it. I am sorry for rambling if you read this. But please no advise. Why is it most people think I or anyone wants so much advise. I know why really. People who are leaders like to think everyone just needs there help. My brother is the same way. They know the best way and think it is their duty to help the lost person out. Because no one is as smart as them. that cause me and my brother not to talk because I do not like people like that. And besides, most people can not stand to hold in their opinion. They think they need to give some enightenment.
Klove is getting into some of the SOS radio network area. K-Love has applied to increase power on new KEKL 88.5 to reach Las Vegas better where KSOS is. And Klove has a recent sign on in the Idaho Falls area. SOS reaches Idaho Falls with translators currently with KCIR being in Twin Falls. SOS has a new CP at 91.7 for Idaho Falls though. And K-Love has a new CP KVKL south of Las Vegas. EMF does not own those station but LMA's them. The SOS netowrk has a few programs but is non-commercial.
And K-Love will reach Louisville, KY better with a CP WJLR has. WJIE is aalso a non-commercial station in KY.
I am aware of almost everything K-Love is doing or 90 percent at least although of course I don't have all the details.
In Albuqueque, NM air1 has a new CP for 90.7. That will compete with chr KLYT.
In the Greenville, NC area both WBFJ and K-Loves WKVE can be picked up.
In many markets there are some overlap in areas like that. It is not really worth my time though to go thru all 300 or whatever K-Love stations like that. Arguements can be made why EMF is there but I do not want to argue myself about it. I only stated a few. I don't need to ask anyone what they are because I plotted each K-Love out on a map from Radio-Locator.com and put them on an atlas. If you want somethong you have to do it yourself. I did that 15 years ago and still keep up with it today. I am certainly not asking smart mouthed people like neutral oberserver or whatzthat anything. I was not asking anyone anything. sure I was asking to list an area you think EMF should not be. But not for personal opinions. I don't care about those. That would be just to wine. But I was making a point that really most K-Loves or Air's serve most of their markey alone as far as noncommercial ccm is concerned. But then some brings up commercial stations. I want to say give me a break. Can't I chose a topic without everyone thing they have to help me out and give their editorials. Maybe some people like to listen to non-commercial and leave it at that. I was comparing like stations. And even if they if was in the same market with another non-commercail ccm I do not care one bit. Just the oppiste I would want it. As I listener I wish there were 2 or more ccm's to listen to. It is the broadcaster who gets worried. Let them worry without me having to hear it. I wish EMF was in Springfield, IL where I am. I want variety and let the best one stand. Of course I don't care about local content. It is one one's job is lost you really start to worry about it. I am sorry for rambling if you read this. But please no advise. Why is it most people think I or anyone wants so much advise. I know why really. People who are leaders like to think everyone just needs there help. My brother is the same way. They know the best way and think it is their duty to help the lost person out. Because no one is as smart as them. that cause me and my brother not to talk because I do not like people like that. And besides, most people can not stand to hold in their opinion. They think they need to give some enightenment.
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brian_marchand
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ok thanks its mostly wayfm I see
Ok thanks. I new it was wayfm but in a busy life it is not a priority to be at the top of my thoughts. I remember reading before WRXV signed on how they wanted to serve the youth and play rock and chr. They did not stick to their goal very long. But I see they air wayfm most of the time so are hotter then K-Love. So WRXV is really a sat network too with some cut-ins. Wayfm makes it easier to sound local then K-Love but they are really not that local and saving money being off a network. I guess I would like wayfm better then k-love. Their top song list just links to wayfm's top 20. EMF does put stations in wayfm markets alot. So I am not surprised at all. I guess they go after a different audience slightly with different imaging. Since neither is in my market I have not listened much. But please no high and mighty comments from the ever watchful radio professional super hero. God is still in control. EMF should not be promising anything. Then especially going back on it. God will not bless that if true. You want to be nice to fellow broadcaster in some way but if an opportunity comes you have to take it I think. Knowing what station it is good to know. Someone saying like neutralobserver I know a few stations but am not going to say means nothing. That person should not say anything. They are arrogant Not just in that but almost everything. I would prefer EMF over whoever that is. But I got off topic.
Again, thanks for the post. It takes alot of research to keep up with everything. I do know that K-Love got 3 stations in that area- WLKH, WLKJ and WKVB. Some of those are outside of WRXV and I guess they could not pass on getting all 3. Some of those areas were without ccm. Westerm PA has had very few ccm's until now. K-Love has some CP translators for Pittsburgh they will probably feed with WLKH. Maybe that was what they were thinking. For me I would be glad I had 2 ccm stations. But I understand the owner would be worried about aloss of support. I read a post a few months back on another board from someone in State College who said he was glad K-Love was there because he could not pick up WRXV in his house.
Wow, from reading their website it sounds like they are really struggling. A volunteer staff ran out of the garage of a board member for no cost. And they still owe 98 percent from the origianl loan. Now K-Love is there. It is not funny to you or anyone but EMF might have to buy it one day to save it. Alot of people are very passionate about music. I lived in the Va Beach area for almost 3 years with no ccm. After I moved K-Love came there. I wish they had been there when I was there. A national network is better then nothing. And for me it does not matter but I know many people have a vision of ministering on the air or being there for local events. I tend to turn out when talking starts anyway. But I don't matter. Maybe EMF could buy it and switch to air1. That would sound good to me. Then they would have money for upgrades too.
I know almost all the stations that are ccm. But it is hard to keep up if they change format because on most radio sites like 1000000watts they put everything into the contemporary christian category. From moody all the way to chr like WONU. Yet when a secular station makes a small format change or tweek and they are all on it like glue with an update but ignore the christian one. It is unfair but it how it is. About the only way of knowing is the constanting check all websites which I do sometimes check a few. But not really for what exact songs they play because I don't care but just to make sure they still are christian. Or to hear from someone posting about it.
Ok thanks. I new it was wayfm but in a busy life it is not a priority to be at the top of my thoughts. I remember reading before WRXV signed on how they wanted to serve the youth and play rock and chr. They did not stick to their goal very long. But I see they air wayfm most of the time so are hotter then K-Love. So WRXV is really a sat network too with some cut-ins. Wayfm makes it easier to sound local then K-Love but they are really not that local and saving money being off a network. I guess I would like wayfm better then k-love. Their top song list just links to wayfm's top 20. EMF does put stations in wayfm markets alot. So I am not surprised at all. I guess they go after a different audience slightly with different imaging. Since neither is in my market I have not listened much. But please no high and mighty comments from the ever watchful radio professional super hero. God is still in control. EMF should not be promising anything. Then especially going back on it. God will not bless that if true. You want to be nice to fellow broadcaster in some way but if an opportunity comes you have to take it I think. Knowing what station it is good to know. Someone saying like neutralobserver I know a few stations but am not going to say means nothing. That person should not say anything. They are arrogant Not just in that but almost everything. I would prefer EMF over whoever that is. But I got off topic.
Again, thanks for the post. It takes alot of research to keep up with everything. I do know that K-Love got 3 stations in that area- WLKH, WLKJ and WKVB. Some of those are outside of WRXV and I guess they could not pass on getting all 3. Some of those areas were without ccm. Westerm PA has had very few ccm's until now. K-Love has some CP translators for Pittsburgh they will probably feed with WLKH. Maybe that was what they were thinking. For me I would be glad I had 2 ccm stations. But I understand the owner would be worried about aloss of support. I read a post a few months back on another board from someone in State College who said he was glad K-Love was there because he could not pick up WRXV in his house.
Wow, from reading their website it sounds like they are really struggling. A volunteer staff ran out of the garage of a board member for no cost. And they still owe 98 percent from the origianl loan. Now K-Love is there. It is not funny to you or anyone but EMF might have to buy it one day to save it. Alot of people are very passionate about music. I lived in the Va Beach area for almost 3 years with no ccm. After I moved K-Love came there. I wish they had been there when I was there. A national network is better then nothing. And for me it does not matter but I know many people have a vision of ministering on the air or being there for local events. I tend to turn out when talking starts anyway. But I don't matter. Maybe EMF could buy it and switch to air1. That would sound good to me. Then they would have money for upgrades too.
I know almost all the stations that are ccm. But it is hard to keep up if they change format because on most radio sites like 1000000watts they put everything into the contemporary christian category. From moody all the way to chr like WONU. Yet when a secular station makes a small format change or tweek and they are all on it like glue with an update but ignore the christian one. It is unfair but it how it is. About the only way of knowing is the constanting check all websites which I do sometimes check a few. But not really for what exact songs they play because I don't care but just to make sure they still are christian. Or to hear from someone posting about it.
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brian_marchand
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Boise and Denver
EMF has 3 stations in the Boise area. Apparently 2 are air1 now and a third is silent. Since I am not there I am using their station list to assume that. KTSY 89.5 is a popular christian AC non-commercial there. I have wondered what there plans are. Something is up. Will they eventually put on K-Love? I wonder if they have any agreements they made with KTSY? I thought it was odd when they bought KARO 98.7 there a couple of years ago. Maybe they will sell that now? The other 2 are 88.3 KARJ and KIDH 90.9. KIDH and KARJ are new and from the same tower. Have thaey not made one yet because they did not want to compete with KTSY. I am waiting to find out what they do.
There are so many stations but another interesting one is in Denver apparently K-Love is on both KLDV 91.1 and KFDN 88.1 there. What's up with that? I would have thought they would make 88.1 air1. I wonder if they had to make any agreements with wayfm who is in the area from KXWA 89.7 near Fort Collins.
EMF has 3 stations in the Boise area. Apparently 2 are air1 now and a third is silent. Since I am not there I am using their station list to assume that. KTSY 89.5 is a popular christian AC non-commercial there. I have wondered what there plans are. Something is up. Will they eventually put on K-Love? I wonder if they have any agreements they made with KTSY? I thought it was odd when they bought KARO 98.7 there a couple of years ago. Maybe they will sell that now? The other 2 are 88.3 KARJ and KIDH 90.9. KIDH and KARJ are new and from the same tower. Have thaey not made one yet because they did not want to compete with KTSY. I am waiting to find out what they do.
There are so many stations but another interesting one is in Denver apparently K-Love is on both KLDV 91.1 and KFDN 88.1 there. What's up with that? I would have thought they would make 88.1 air1. I wonder if they had to make any agreements with wayfm who is in the area from KXWA 89.7 near Fort Collins.
Re: What stations does K-Love compete with specifically? If you can't say don't bother.
"The reason I asked it because people act like they are in competion with them."
I think it's the other way around. Most stations are doing their business not worrying about them till they do "cute"things to them.
"The reason I asked it because people act like they are in competion with them."
I think it's the other way around. Most stations are doing their business not worrying about them till they do "cute"things to them.
Re: Scooterodell...
> Seriously, would you please shut up and leave me alone. We
> can agree we don't like each other and leave it. I forgive
> you and ask the God to forgive me and you to forgive me
> because we must forgive others and not hold anything against
> each other. But we do not get along and it is best to leave
> it at that. Not everyone can get along with everyone.
>
>I'm rolling my eyes. Don't read my posts that's all you have to do or just put your hands over your eyes again and you won't see them. You started the post and you don't like the answers or the way it went.
> Seriously, would you please shut up and leave me alone. We
> can agree we don't like each other and leave it. I forgive
> you and ask the God to forgive me and you to forgive me
> because we must forgive others and not hold anything against
> each other. But we do not get along and it is best to leave
> it at that. Not everyone can get along with everyone.
>
>I'm rolling my eyes. Don't read my posts that's all you have to do or just put your hands over your eyes again and you won't see them. You started the post and you don't like the answers or the way it went.
Re: Reply and Regarding threads as this...
> In some parts, it's called slander, gossip, and grumbling.
>
> Just an opinion.
>
Whatever. It's the truth and if you consider it gossip and slander, that is your opinion. Grumbling it may be but truthful grumbling. Maybe you'll land at a station where you can see it yourself, then remember these posts.
> In some parts, it's called slander, gossip, and grumbling.
>
> Just an opinion.
>
Whatever. It's the truth and if you consider it gossip and slander, that is your opinion. Grumbling it may be but truthful grumbling. Maybe you'll land at a station where you can see it yourself, then remember these posts.
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radioelizabeth
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neutral_observer
Guest
Re: Reply and Regarding threads as this...
> I wear my feeling on my sleave.
Seemingly out of nowhere, that has become obvious in this thread. Perhaps it would be wise to rethink that.
> You are a logical thinking type.
Most people think that because I'm very good at it. However, the truth is that I test pretty close to balanced -- 57/43, if I recall and those tests are to be believed.
> You come across as very arrogant and offensive and I don't
> agree with any thing you say.
Your perception and agreement or lack thereof do not change the truth that there are stations that meet even your narrow criteria.
> I think what I asked was good. I don't care what you think.
I'm really curious -- after so much talk of what you "feel," why did you switch to "think" at this particular point?
> I was never and am not know not asking for you opinion or
> anyone elses.
Then why post a question/challenge on a message board?
> I hoped you would not say anything.
Me, personally??
Wow, I'm honored, I guess, to be so...thought of.
> What I asked was clear. Why does everything think they have to
> comment on it.
Because you asked.
> And it is not narrow.
It's extremely narrow, and it's framed with your desired outcome being, in your mind, the only possible answer! (It turns out it's not, though.)
It's like demanding to know all places on earth where a west-facing window allows viewing of sunrises.
> You either have comercial or non-commercial AC chrisian radio.
Nope. You also have commercial, non-profit Christian AC (and other Christian) stations.
> I don't care what you know if you can not say. Please do not
> say you know something and then say you can't say. That is
> sooooo dumb. Not to mention boasting.
I choose not to answer because of your attitude, not my inability or ego.
> I do not like you and you do not like me either. Lets leave it
> at that so we don't have to talk anymore.
How odd.
Actually, I don't recall having any thought or "feel" for you before this thread. I must admit that, while still not having any "feel" for you, I do now have some thoughts.
> I am only saying I have a map with most ccm stations.
That's certainly....different!
> But what you expressed was I did not know any markets and was asking
> others for help. Your arrogance make me so mad.
You must be confused; I never wrote anything even close.
> I do not like you...I hate...I don't like you...offensive...
> I don't agree...And hate...I hate that and hate...leave me alone...
> I don't care...And don't want...I don't care...makes me so mad....I
> do not like you...make me so mad.
I think that speaks for itself and needs no reply, but I'll offer one anyway:
How can we pray or help?
> I wear my feeling on my sleave.
Seemingly out of nowhere, that has become obvious in this thread. Perhaps it would be wise to rethink that.
> You are a logical thinking type.
Most people think that because I'm very good at it. However, the truth is that I test pretty close to balanced -- 57/43, if I recall and those tests are to be believed.
> You come across as very arrogant and offensive and I don't
> agree with any thing you say.
Your perception and agreement or lack thereof do not change the truth that there are stations that meet even your narrow criteria.
> I think what I asked was good. I don't care what you think.
I'm really curious -- after so much talk of what you "feel," why did you switch to "think" at this particular point?
> I was never and am not know not asking for you opinion or
> anyone elses.
Then why post a question/challenge on a message board?
> I hoped you would not say anything.
Me, personally??
Wow, I'm honored, I guess, to be so...thought of.
> What I asked was clear. Why does everything think they have to
> comment on it.
Because you asked.
> And it is not narrow.
It's extremely narrow, and it's framed with your desired outcome being, in your mind, the only possible answer! (It turns out it's not, though.)
It's like demanding to know all places on earth where a west-facing window allows viewing of sunrises.
> You either have comercial or non-commercial AC chrisian radio.
Nope. You also have commercial, non-profit Christian AC (and other Christian) stations.
> I don't care what you know if you can not say. Please do not
> say you know something and then say you can't say. That is
> sooooo dumb. Not to mention boasting.
I choose not to answer because of your attitude, not my inability or ego.
> I do not like you and you do not like me either. Lets leave it
> at that so we don't have to talk anymore.
How odd.
Actually, I don't recall having any thought or "feel" for you before this thread. I must admit that, while still not having any "feel" for you, I do now have some thoughts.
> I am only saying I have a map with most ccm stations.
That's certainly....different!
> But what you expressed was I did not know any markets and was asking
> others for help. Your arrogance make me so mad.
You must be confused; I never wrote anything even close.
> I do not like you...I hate...I don't like you...offensive...
> I don't agree...And hate...I hate that and hate...leave me alone...
> I don't care...And don't want...I don't care...makes me so mad....I
> do not like you...make me so mad.
I think that speaks for itself and needs no reply, but I'll offer one anyway:
How can we pray or help?
H
HurricaneRun
Guest
Re: Reply and Regarding threads as this...
> Who cares that K-Love came to a christian concert put on by
> another station. What a punch of gossip.
Like a punch bowl? .... A punch bowl of gossip. Yeah, that sounds better.
HR
> Who cares that K-Love came to a christian concert put on by
> another station. What a punch of gossip.
Like a punch bowl? .... A punch bowl of gossip. Yeah, that sounds better.
HR
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