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What Talent-Shows do you miss in Seattle? What talnet should come to Seattle?

Wow - It's no mystery why dozens of Seattle area radio stations are not worth the time of day to most of the people who live here. Bongwater: Hall-le-freakin'-lujah and Amen to your comments.

The others who can't digest what he's saying are proving thru their snarky retorts why there is no imagination or character any greater than the Pennysaver newspaper or a used car dealership on the airwaves. (Perhaps I'm a bit harsh there -- unless you take that as a compliment -- but, come on, I'm makin' a point here, guys, by assuming the tone of your charges on the fear-filled and preachy airwaves).

Do many of the folks who presumably manage commercial radio stations, and are regulars on this board, seem defensive to the rest of you? We understand the need for business plans and long term revenue strategies. Really, we do. It's just that these guys don't seem to even try to do something different, or better, much less come up with something new, original, or spot-on perfect for a slice of this market. Or, again, maybe they're just doing the best they can.

Decades of deregulation have got you where you are now. And it has turned the radio industry into a private club. Just like Washington Mutual, AIG, and fill-in-the-blank. We all got the message years ago to not expect to be employed in the industry at a living wage if you don't kiss some big daddy's ass. But even that level of being a "good boy" isn't getting many people very far any more.

Sorry, but when there were more than a few 'owners' out there, at least air talent could bounce around awhile between regimes. Not that that's best model for meaningful employment, either. But I dare to suggest that the current economic model for commercial radio in the USA is not working either. Not to serve the "public interest, convenience, or necessity." And not to even keep the few remaining media companies solvent.

If what we're getting is the best you all can do -- if KOMO 1000 and KJR-FM and KNDD and KIRO and KVI and KKOL whatever AM 1150 is supposed to be are really the best radio that its managers are really proud of -- if you really believe that the degree these stations exhibit the fine art of good radio (and there are many, many ways of doing that), that it's the kind of stuff that's worth recording and listening to ten, 25, 50 years from now -- well, then I have to respond that it just makes sense for the public, and particularly younger folks, to continue to abandon the medium and make their own I-Pod mixes, and eagerly await webstreamed radio in the car, etc.

But I still think it's not over yet for the airwaves. We just need the FCC to strap on some balls and start to regulate in the interest of employees in the industry (rarely done before, I know), and to let more people operate stations in every market by taking away some of the licenses from bloated conglomorates that still complain they can't provide major market levels of service on the air. Many of the big guys can't seem to find a way to attract a loyal audience, even with a mere 8 high-powered signals, plus HD, plus internet, plus plus plus --to the lislteners, it just adds up to less, less, less, when you can only imagine 5 or 6 types of program formats, and have to "kill" the competition by being just like them.

So where'd all the money go? Can it really be that expensive to keep up a second home in the San Juans?

GL
 
Re: What Talent-Shows do you miss in Seattle? What talnet should come to Seattl

Perhaps you consider responses from myself and actual professionals on this forum "snarky", but clearly you're missing the points.. The easy way out of justifying vague uninformed comments about the health of radio or any subject in which you have little actual knowledge, is to dance around having to actually provide solutions at the risk of appearing ignorant. And of course another more common example can be seen in your post Goldi, by throwing in comparisons with other unrelated companies involved in the current economic challenges. Nice try, but anyone with common sense can recognize that tactic.

When Bong, you, or anyone who thinks radio is broken wants to post relevant non-vague examples of what they would do to correct effects of the economy on the radio business, or even any particular radio station or format, then I for one would be open to hearing them. However, if you provide nothing more than "pitchfork and torch" comments lacking any substance, then I'll be one of the several to call you on it.

Oh, and just so you know.. My home in the San Juan Islands that you refer to was left to me when my parents passed away a few years ago. But thanks for your concern!
 
Bongwater said:
AQH said:
Bongwater said:
AQH said:
Bongwater said:
AQH said:
Bongwater said:
Why do I need to go and tell people that are already reading this?

Are you going to keep stalling and post rhetorical questions, or are you going to hit the pavement and pitch your brilliant idea?

What did I just say AQH?

Stop the stall and distraction tactics Larry, this is not about me. Go out and promote your sure-fire strategy that you've brought up countless times and prove your ideas are the way to cure today's radio ills.

This isn't about me either. I already said my peace. If anyone's got something to say, they can say it here or PM me. But what I said is out there and anyone can read it and take the initiative themselves. Or not. I've got better things to do today than go around and around with you on this.


I didn't say this was about you Larry, it's not. I said it's all about your ideas for radio and how you are insistent that its' the answer to today's radio.

AGAIN, I am challenging you to take your ideas to General Managers. There are no corporate Program Directors or greedy consultants involved here. Like I said earlier, you'd be dealing with people whose backgrounds are in sales, people with little to no programming experience. Couldn't be a better channel of communication than the people who are looking to make a buck, right?

You've been unquestionably consistent on your disdain for corporate radio and offering your ideas. It's puzzling as to why in this depressed economy that you do not want to make a buck off your ideas.

If you don't even have the guts to pitch your own ideas, why should anyone believe what you profess to be the solutions to today's radio?

I'm not your babysitter AQH. Either you grow up and get it or you don't.

Period.


And there you have it folks. Encouragement to the person to go sell his ideas and values to General Managers, and not only does this person not answer the bell, but he resorts to personal attacks.

Says a lot about how you really feel about what you preach.
 
Re: An easy answer...

SeattleRadioPro said:
AQH said:
You've been unquestionably consistent on your disdain for corporate radio and offering your ideas. It's puzzling as to why in this depressed economy that you do not want to make a buck off your ideas.

If you don't even have the guts to pitch your own ideas, why should anyone believe what you profess to be the solutions to today's radio?

I've got an easy answer, AQH:

Those who can, do.
Those who can't bloviate on message boards about what's wrong with radio.

Simple as that.

That's pretty much it right there.
 
Areosmith put it best, Dream on, Dream on......Thats all it is AQH and Guru.
Do find your insight interesting. Talk/News stations are the one thing you can't preprogram on your I-pod, Zume, ect., and for Music stations we have some
great talent on the air now. Yes, there are many that I miss hearing. Slayton,
West, R&M, Cashman to name a few.
 
Kudos, GL. You did a great job encapsulating where things are and why. I agree that the ultimate measurement (since airwave ownership is different than a bank, etc.) is whether the public is being served well with the product on their airwaves. I assume many stations do it "well enough", even though I'm not much of a customer any more. But internally you make a great point ... is it product we'd want to recall in ten or fifteen years as a great example for others to follow and learn from? In SOME cases I think it is (KUOW, KOMO, KIRO still have an INTEREST in disseminating timely info for the community)....but generally, that high-bar has dropped a few pegs. I know I stopped caring about music stations when my impression went from "that was a really cool and memorable bit" to I'm probably never going to care how {Generic Talent} just read that liner".
 
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