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What the new XM/Sirius merger means to HD Radio

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"XM/Sirius Merger Announcement: 14 Knee-Jerk Predictions"

"HD Radio will be a harder sell than ever before. Even harder than it is already. Which do you want, the new radio with the nationally known premium brands, clearly communicated, and found everywhere? Or the new radio that presumably gets a few new stations?"

http://www.hear2.com/2007/02/xmsirius_merger.html#comments
 
It means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to HD radio. After the merger there won't be a single additional subscriber. They'll just be combined under one "banner". That's it! Those who are willing to pay for radio will continue, those that aren't won't. It means NOTHING to HD, or any other terrestrial radio.
 
Mike Walker said:
It means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to HD radio. After the merger there won't be a single additional subscriber. They'll just be combined under one "banner". That's it! Those who are willing to pay for radio will continue, those that aren't won't. It means NOTHING to HD, or any other terrestrial radio.

Right. As one analyst stated after the announcement, "this sdemonstrates the failure of the satellite business model."

In any case, getting DOJ, FCC and shareholder approval is going to be very tough. The move is totally consumer unfriendly.
 
Some will consider getting the best of both XM and Sirius for little, or no more expense a powerful motivation to subscribe. In future only one type sat. radio need be made that includes both services. This will make the radios cheaper, and consolidation of listeners, programming, administrative, management, engineering, and billing expenses, will drive joint revenue and profits UP. The combined company should be much stronger and profitable, and offer more variety from a single source. On balance, the single radio decision, and financial stability, is better for consumers.
Unfortunately, some employees will be laid off.
All this adds up to much less need or interest for HD radio.
Now that FMeXtra has arrived, at full carrier power, truly on channel, has full FCC approval, and radios are available, there is no longer a need to jam adjacent channels just to receive local digital FM.
Perhaps combined XM, Sirius, FMeXtra, radios will become standard for digital, all using the same AACPLUS codec. It would be an inexpensive one size fits all digital radio solution that likely will become cheap to make, and standard in all cars. WI-MAX using AACPLUS will be thrown in to the reception mix just for good measure.
Only one, inexpensive, Digital Signal Processor in a single digital/analog radio could handle all digital and analog signals.
Rejoice! Convergence is near!
 
Their intention to merge is a long way from completing the merger. If DirecTV and Echostar can't merge on antitrust grounds, it should be quite a hurdle for Sirius and XM.
 
I love satellite radio, and am a longtime XM subscriber. But these merger plans can be seen as nothing other than a failure of the business models at XM and Sirius. Both are in debt to the tune of BILLIONS. Both are losing money like there's no tomorrow. Neither can (with a straight face) point to future profits.

Terrestrial radio, on the other hand, is solidly IN THE BLACK at most outlets around the country, and with a business model proven for more than seven decades.
 
Mike Walker said:
I love satellite radio, and am a longtime XM subscriber. But these merger plans can be seen as nothing other than a failure of the business models at XM and Sirius. Both are in debt to the tune of BILLIONS. Both are losing money like there's no tomorrow. Neither can (with a straight face) point to future profits.

Terrestrial radio, on the other hand, is solidly IN THE BLACK at most outlets around the country, and with a business model proven for more than seven decades.

Ramsey said the same thing about the Satellite Radio meger, that it is a retreat strategy. Unfortuately, the long-term outlook is not good for terrestrial radio, since they have isolated Gen Y, and Gen Y has turned to cell phones, iPods/MP3s, gaming-systems, etc for entertainment. Why do you think terrestrial radio is dumping $500,000,000 on HD Radio - HD Radio is a desperate attempt to win back listeners, but it is dead (as Ramsey said, it is a race to the bottom):

http://www.alexaholic.com/hdradio.com+sirius.com+xmradio.com
 
DavidEduardo said:
Mike Walker said:
It means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to HD radio. After the merger there won't be a single additional subscriber. They'll just be combined under one "banner". That's it! Those who are willing to pay for radio will continue, those that aren't won't. It means NOTHING to HD, or any other terrestrial radio.

Right. As one analyst stated after the announcement, "this sdemonstrates the failure of the satellite business model."

In any case, getting DOJ, FCC and shareholder approval is going to be very tough. The move is totally consumer unfriendly.

According to the NY Times there appears to be a slight sea change within Washington in terms of attitude toward such mergers. As proof they cite the recent acquision of Maytag by Whirlpool which was approved by the Justice Dept., giving Whirlpool over 50% share of the American market for appliances.

Concerning the XM/Sirius merger, the article quoted Michael Powell: “I do think it could get through, but I don’t think it’s going to be an easy one,” he said. “It’s going to be incumbent on the companies to demonstrate that the analysis in EchoStar-DirecTV is different.”

Interestingly, the satcasters cite similar reasons for the merger that the NAB has cited for being against it.

“In addition to existing competition from free ‘over-the-air’ AM and FM radio as well as iPods and mobile phone streaming, satellite radio will face new challenges from the rapid growth of HD Radio, Internet radio and next generation wireless technologies.”

I don't think the satellite radio business model is a failure. Granted, subscriptions to both services have flattened out somewhat but if the merger can help reduce operating expenses (and both companies are projecting nearly a billion dollars in savings) and they can maintain as well as grow their subscription base, if only modestly, while offering new services (which they are) then I think the satcasters can be successful.

I also don't agree that the merger is unfriendly to consumers. After all, no one needs satellite radio but satellite radio needs listeners. This isn't a merger of oil companies. And as both satcasters merge their R & D efforts, who knows what new technologies and services they will come up with in the future for their subscribers.

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Well, both services have missed every target to be "in the black'. And lately they've both been missing subscriber targets. They're in debt by BILLIONS, with ZERO positive cash flow after six (or five) years. How would you define failure?

Successful as an entertainment medium yes. But as a business? I'm glad MY money isn't in sat radio!

Lowes Companies stock is lookin' pretty damn good to me! ;)
 
Mike Walker said:
Well, both services have missed every target to be "in the black'. And lately they've both been missing subscriber targets. They're in debt by BILLIONS, with ZERO positive cash flow after six (or five) years. How would you define failure?

Successful as an entertainment medium yes. But as a business? I'm glad MY money isn't in sat radio!

Lowes Companies stock is lookin' pretty damn good to me! ;)

If they can contain costs and offer compelling new services, which are two objectives in this merger, then I think XM/Sirius stand a chance, at least in the short term.

On a smaller scale, iBiquity has been hemorrhaging money for years and they have far less to offer than the satcasters do; intellectual property that is behind the curve and in competition with better technology. I would be more concerned about the future of HD Radio than the satcasters, at least they have satellites and spectrum.

Interestingly, the Radio and Internet Newsletter quotes several sources that speculate that both technologies are being threatened by advances in wireless internet, particularly as it migrates into vehicles. When that occurs both Satellite and HD Radio will be seen as 'interim technologies'.

db
 
Oh god. Where to start.

The merger talk only mentions HD radio as a means to making it sound like there's a lot of technology conspiring against them. In the slideshow, HD radio is shown alongside WiMax, in addition to the iPods and whatnot. Neither are going to be a threat to the conventional radio model for quite a while.

The more it looks like they must combine to survive, the more likely the merger will go through. Greased palms won't hurt.

I'll be shocked if they pass regulatory muster without giving up one of the licenses. The FCC currently forbids one company owning both SDARS licenses. If they give up one, that would leave them with no more spectrum (12.5 MHz) than either company has right now.

Biased opinion begins now.

I'm wary of the merger. It's just my opinion, but any move that benefits "shareholders" hurts the "consumer".
Still on a personal note Mel Karmazin will head the combined company. He likes Howard Stern and doesn't like Opie & Anthony, whom I enjoy listening to (because, at heart, I'm an immature child?)... Which makes me wonder if they won't make the cut, despite being the top-billing and oft most listened to channel on XM.

Back to unbiased opinion.

XM and Sirius have been working on interoperable hardware for a while, as if they were expecting this move. If and when such hardware becomes available, it will mean one line of hardware for both services, simplifying selection... Especially for the sizeable number of people who currently subscribe to both services. And post-merger a mid-term plan is to offer channels from both services on an ala carte basis to help consumers with costs.

As I understand it, both services have achieved cash-positive flow, which I can only assume is an overly complicated way of saying they actually are made some money last quarter.

I don't think the business model is bad. I think the execution has been less than stellar. You have an FM-like clone, minus commercials (Sirius) and a deep-playlist jukebox with boring talent (XM). You've got both chasing high dollar contracts with people who don't draw radio crowds (Oprah and her once a week show) or who are washed up to a degree (Martha Stewart). And then there's the lucrative but expensive sports contracts. Throw in bandwidth-wasting traffic channels and a deal with Clear Channel that turned sour (for XM, anyway) and you've got problems.

Churn is becoming a problem for both services, although I think XM's suffering the brunt worse... Sound quality issues on both services are atrocious, and both have their own problems regarding reception in certain buildings. Those two problems alone probably cause churn worse than the all-you-can-eat Tex-Mex buffet night at Western Sizzlin'.

Where am I going with this? I have no freakin' idea. ;D

Whatever happens, I'd rather pay for medicore sound quality, good music and interesting talk radio than suffer through "local" satellite-fed boring FM radio.

Mike: While a merger won't add radios, it'll make potential adds easier on down the line. Having completely incompatible hardware lines puts a damper on "jumping ship" to the competitor. Why would I buy another sat radio when I've already invested in my current one. With home kit. Kinda like me asking, "Why would I spend more money on an HD radio when I've already invested in XM equipment?" :)

Supercaster: You forgot one thing with your DSP chip: AM stereo. It can be done. Rumor has it my ol' 2000 VW's stock radio had C-QUAM decoding in the software, it just wasn't switched on.
 
Zach said:
Supercaster: You forgot one thing with your DSP chip: AM stereo. It can be done. Rumor has it my ol' 2000 VW's stock radio had C-QUAM decoding in the software, it just wasn't switched on.

I agree. These Digital Signal Processor radios can be designed to allow flexible software control, with many possibilities, even some not yet envisioned. That makes much more sense then buying a proprietary, single purpose HD Radio. Why not a programmable, all media device instead of an expensive, special, limited, proprietary, HD Radio.

Mike said:
Terrestrial radio, on the other hand, is solidly IN THE BLACK at most outlets around the country, and with a business model proven for more than seven decades.
HD Radio costs a lot, but has no revenue, much less profits, and is just an extra expense to analog stations.
Even FMeXtra can be put on the air tomorrow, and immediately sell radios, subscriptions (by converting an existing SCA service to higher quality digital stereo) or sell advertising on the new channels, when enough radios are sold. This is not true for HD radio, as the HD1 must be just a duplicate of the analog channel, and the HD2 (etc.) multicast channels are still experimental (FCC) and can't sell subscriptions or generate revenue.
If multicast is the new HD radio "killer app" as HD supporters now claim, and not a falsely promoted "CD quality" duplicate of the main channel (as previously claimed) then where is the revenue and "seven decade business model" you are claiming for multicast, or HD radio?
The more multicast channels added, the more bandwidth (lower bitrate for HD1) that must be shared with the "CD quality" duplicate of the main analog channel, and the more the "CD quality" HD1 will sound like FM quality, or worse.
Advertising has been around for at least hundreds of years as a revenue model, as have subscriptions, rentals, and equipment sales. Terrestrial radio has no exclusive patent on these revenue models.
 
^^^^^^

I don't even think on the whole, that engineers or DJs, or station managers or networks or comglomertates, really even care about getting the "best" sound possible with their FM stations. They've got too much to do, or are just plain ignorant of the public's desire to listen to music in high quality.

But, I bet they say to themselves..... we've gradually ratcheded the quality down over the years.... and hey... "The commercials and the DJ chatter sounds good ! ! -- So what are we worrying about ! ! "......

The dumbing down of radio listeners continues.....

WE GET NO RESPECT!
 
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