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When will kost flip to all Christmas 🎄🎄 music?

What post did you mean to post on? This one is about Christmas music in LA. Btw KOST I think will flip on Nov 10 @ 9 am or 8 am or 5 pm...
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Let it go. You don't even know what I wrote. Yes, it had to do with Christmas music and flipping and time, but I realized just after posting it that I was responding to the wrong post -- that is, the individual post number in this thread, not the wrong topic or wrong thread.

Precisely why I want a way to delete an entire post (within a reasonable time) instead of writing "never mind" and have the thing just sit there for others to comment on.
 
:rolleyes:
Let it go. You don't even know what I wrote. Yes, it had to do with Christmas music and flipping and time, but I realized just after posting it that I was responding to the wrong post -- that is, the individual post number in this thread, not the wrong topic or wrong thread.

Precisely why I want a way to delete an entire post (within a reasonable time) instead of writing "never mind" and have the thing just sit there for others to comment on.
Lol
 
Well let's give props to all those that said the 10th when kost would flip to all Christmas music. Me included. 8 AM on the 10th is when it's gonna happen.
 
Good Lord, Walmart Radio?? Let me look outside to see if Hell has frozen over.
Yeah, they are left to be desired. Playing re-records or weird versions of popular 70’s and 80’s music is a huge turn off. Heard a ridiculous version of Flashdance a few days ago. What’s wrong with Irene Cara’s original?
 
Yeah, they (Wal-Mart Radio) are left to be desired. Playing re-records or weird versions of popular 70’s and 80’s music is a huge turn off. Heard a ridiculous version of Flashdance a few days ago. What’s wrong with Irene Cara’s original?

What's wrong?

It might be Royalties.

They may have to pay higher royalties to play Ms. Cara's original version than a cover version.
 
Speaking of royalties, could that be the reason why Scott Shannon hasn't played 'We Are The World' on his wonderful syndicated America's Greatest Hits show in at least 3 or 4 years whenever the month of March rolled around since it spent a month @ #1 in 1985?

If memory serves the first several weeks of its chart run went 21-5-2-1-1-1-1-2, which meant that he would have had to have played it at least TWICE each year. I have to admit that he's not that consistent when selecting which years to do on his countdowns

Although there are TONS of songs from 1985 which certainly get plenty of airplay on lots of Classic Hits as well as AC and Hot AC stations nationwide, We Are The World almost certainly isn't among them I would presume.

David Eduardo did state on here several years ago that in the realm of the music libraries of Classic Hits stations (such as a station flipping from another format or being launched there are 350 songs which are considered 'safe', so that royalties issue COULD go a long way in explaining the absence of 'WATW' from the airwaves,
 
Speaking of royalties, could that be the reason why Scott Shannon hasn't played 'We Are The World' on his wonderful syndicated America's Greatest Hits show in at least 3 or 4 years whenever the month of March rolled around since it spent a month @ #1 in 1985?

If memory serves the first several weeks of its chart run went 21-5-2-1-1-1-1-2, which meant that he would have had to have played it at least TWICE each year. I have to admit that he's not that consistent when selecting which years to do on his countdowns

Although there are TONS of songs from 1985 which certainly get plenty of airplay on lots of Classic Hits as well as AC and Hot AC stations nationwide, We Are The World almost certainly isn't among them I would presume.

David Eduardo did state on here several years ago that in the realm of the music libraries of Classic Hits stations (such as a station flipping from another format or being launched there are 350 songs which are considered 'safe', so that royalties issue COULD go a long way in explaining the absence of 'WATW' from the airwaves,
Royalties on one song -- a gimmick celebrity virtue-signaling song cobbled together for a charity that did little if anything to ease Africa's famine? Puh-leeeze. It's about time that song aged out of the format. Even if it weren't, I guarantee that royalties on that one song played no role at all in its disappearance from Shannon's show.
 
David Eduardo did state on here several years ago that in the realm of the music libraries of Classic Hits stations (such as a station flipping from another format or being launched there are 350 songs which are considered 'safe', so that royalties issue COULD go a long way in explaining the absence of 'WATW' from the airwaves,
Author / Composer rights (with royalty payments based on station market and revenue) are licensed by AM and FM stations on a blanket agreement with the four licensing organizations and cover essentially all songs available to radio in the US that are covered by any license. With extremely rare and unusual exceptions, stations can play any song any time.

Further, the term about researched playlists is not "safe" but "playable". Any song that does not pass audience research is not played because it is negative to a segment of the target audience and would cause loss of listenership.
 
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We Are The World gets played on all of the 1985 AT40: The 80s reruns that include it. They don't schedule shows around that song. It also gets the occasional play on other shows like Backtrax USA.
 
David---You used the word 'safe' and you did put it in quotation marks when you made the original post; that's why I did likewise.
 
David---You used the word 'safe' and you did put it in quotation marks when you made the original post; that's why I did likewise.
I put it in quotes because I find the term deceptive and unrealistic. It's often used by those not in radio who don't understand research, but it is not a term that defines how and why stations do research.
 
That explanation makes PLENTY of sense; thanks for educating me as you, Michael Hagerty and all of the other radio veterans on here continue to do every single day on this fabulous board.--much appreciated. Would you happen to know how many times a year classic hits stations modify their libraries in the top 50 markets for example? Thanks.
 
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