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Which Classical Music Station Profit and Non-profit has the best playlist?

I sometimes flip from KDFC 89.9 Angwin and KXPR 88.9FM in Sacramento. I just want you to compare playlists. I like KXPR for Opera and Symphony and KDFC for soft piano pieces and some Hollywood scores that KDFC uses and for Chamber music.
 
recto101 said:
I sometimes flip from KDFC 89.9 Angwin and KXPR 88.9FM in Sacramento. I just want you to compare playlists. I like KXPR for Opera and Symphony and KDFC for soft piano pieces and some Hollywood scores that KDFC uses and for Chamber music.
Since I can no longer pick up KDFC, I will just compare the current KXPR with the old KDFC when they were on 102.1. I always preferred KXPR. They seem to have a better selection of Classical as well as Opera. I also preferred the old KKHI-95.7 over KDFC-102.1. Same reason.
 
Re: Which Classical Music Station has the best playlist in the USA ?

Madmansam said:
recto101 said:
I sometimes flip from KDFC 89.9 Angwin and KXPR 88.9FM in Sacramento. I just want you to compare playlists. I like KXPR for Opera and Symphony and KDFC for soft piano pieces and some Hollywood scores that KDFC uses and for Chamber music.
Since I can no longer pick up KDFC, I will just compare the current KXPR with the old KDFC when they were on 102.1. I always preferred KXPR. They seem to have a better selection of Classical as well as Opera. I also preferred the old KKHI-95.7 over KDFC-102.1. Same reason.


KDFC 89.9fm plays Opera only at 10am on Saturday but not enough. Its still Light Classical, Hollywood Scores, soft piano and Chamber. Maybe going non-profit for KDFC slightly moved the playlists a little more Symphony on Sundays 6pm and Wednesday 8pm. But KXPR is more experienced in Opera and Full Symphony. How long has KXPR been Non-Profit Classical?

I remember KDFC in 2002 had a slogan for their 102.1FM signal Calm, Casual, and Comfortable and it was posted on the Bay Bridge. I live in Solano and I can Get KDFC and KXPR in my area.
 
KXPR has been Non-Profit all of its life. They signed on in 1979. It was a mix of News/Classical/Jazz at 88.9. Around 1984 KXPR moved to 90.9 with a bigger signal. Same mix of music. In 1991, CPR signed on a second radio station at KXPR's old location of 88.9. It was KXJZ and the News & Jazz moved there while Classical expanded on 90.9. Around 2005 or 2006, KXPR & KXJZ flip-flopped their calls & format. The last fulltime commercial Classical Music Radio Station for Sacramento was KSAC-1240 from 1987-91. Before that was KFBK-FM 92.5 from the 1940's until 1979. (they donated their entire Classical Collection to CPR/KXPR)
 
How about KMZT and KUSC in LA who has the better playlist? I never heard of KMZT before what is KMZT's Playlist like?
 
DavidKaye said:
Madmansam said:
Since I can no longer pick up KDFC,

Why can't you pick up KDFC? Cat got your computer? The stream sounds very good.
I didn't try listening because I assume that it sounds the same (same music selection) as when they were on 102.1 about the time the changed in January. I like the selection of KXPR better.
 
Madmansam said:
I didn't try listening because I assume that it sounds the same (same music selection) as when they were on 102.1 about the time the changed in January. I like the selection of KXPR better.

You talked as if you couldn't listen, not that you wouldn't. Well, I've heard KDFC do a wider playlist than the old workhorses they used to do. It makes sense. When KDFC was a commercial outlet they had to get X amount of audience to pay the bills. Now there is less pressure, and Bill Lueth, the PD turned manager is a classical musician himself, or so I'm told. So, I think he was probably chomping at the bit to be able to present a wider range of music.

You can, of course, ACTUALLY CHECK the playlist for KDFC by visiting their website. DUH.
 
and since KDFC now has no commercials so they can play more music and perhaps that is some of the reason for expansion of their playlist.
And David's point nis well taken, KDFC does sound better
 
Noncoms including former coms almost universally have broader deeper playlists than commercial stations, maybe research has shown that casual listeners are freeloaders but serious listeners are more supportive.
 
ai4i said:
Noncoms including former coms almost universally have broader deeper playlists than commercial stations, maybe research has shown that casual listeners are freeloaders but serious listeners are more supportive.

I have no idea what "research has shown," but it makes common sense that casual (usually commercial station listeners) use radio for background - and don't care so much about the actual music selection or depth of the play list as long as the station is playing a genre that they like.

It also makes common sense that "serious listeners" are more involved and care more deeply about the music they hear. So they're more likely to like variety, and be irritated by constant repetition of a short play list. And it makes common sense that these more involved and serious listeners would be the ones willing to pledge money to a station they feel passionate about.
 
According to an old Lee Abrams video blog, the last thing you want to subject a serious classical or jazz listener to is a contest. OK for commercial radio, contests are considered insulting and distracting.
 
ai4i said:
According to an old Lee Abrams video blog, the last thing you want to subject a serious classical or jazz listener to is a contest. OK for commercial radio, contests are considered insulting and distracting.

Huh? Why are we discussing contests, all of a sudden? I'm not sure I agree, anyway.

If a jazz or classical station ran a low key contest in which the prize was 2 free tickets to...say...a Diana Krall concert, or the San Francisco Opera, respectively - I would think there would be some interest from listeners. It wouldn't insult me. Obviously, any self-respecting jazz or classical station would make sure the contest was gimmick free and without any (literal) Top 40 style bells and whistles.
 
Lkeller said:
ai4i said:
According to an old Lee Abrams video blog, the last thing you want to subject a serious classical or jazz listener to is a contest. OK for commercial radio, contests are considered insulting and distracting.

Huh? Why are we discussing contests, all of a sudden? I'm not sure I agree, anyway.

If a jazz or classical station ran a low key contest in which the prize was 2 free tickets to...say...a Diana Krall concert, or the San Francisco Opera, respectively - I would think there would be some interest from listeners. It wouldn't insult me. Obviously, any self-respecting jazz or classical station would make sure the contest was gimmick free and without any (literal) Top 40 style bells and whistles.



They have to do a donation show every 3 months.
 
Lkeller said:
ai4i said:
According to an old Lee Abrams video blog, the last thing you want to subject a serious classical or jazz listener to is a contest. OK for commercial radio, contests are considered insulting and distracting.

Huh? Why are we discussing contests, all of a sudden? I'm not sure I agree, anyway.

If a jazz or classical station ran a low key contest in which the prize was 2 free tickets to...say...a Diana Krall concert, or the San Francisco Opera, respectively - I would think there would be some interest from listeners. It wouldn't insult me. Obviously, any self-respecting jazz or classical station would make sure the contest was gimmick free and without any (literal) Top 40 style bells and whistles.

At least KDFC does not do the Star Wars theme anymore during the Morning Drive.
 
ai4i said:
According to an old Lee Abrams video blog, the last thing you want to subject a serious classical or jazz listener to is a contest. OK for commercial radio, contests are considered insulting and distracting.
I didn't know Lee Abrams was an expert on Classical. I thought he was an old rock guy who fired from his last job for insensitivity when he sent out offensive videos. And the one before that because as VP of XM he didn't kill the regular radio business as he had said he was going to do.
 
When New Hampshire Public Radio first went on-the-air, its founding station, WEVO-89.1 in Concord played classical music in the evening. One day a week, they ran a -guess-the-composer" quiz, with no prize or anything. Most well-known composers have an aural "fingerprint" that lets someone clued-in recognize his (and it's almost always "his"; there are only a very few females even at the current time) music even if it's not a well-known piece. Some composers wrote pieces "out-of-genre"; Puccini, an opera composer wrote some choral music; Tchaikovsky, known for orchestral pieces and at least two operas, wrote some chamber music; Beethoven even wrote some songs! So it could be tricky just coming up with the composer's name, much less the actual composition. WEVO did in fact get a dozen or so callers every week, including moi; not all that bad for a brand-new FM station, and several were even correct!
 
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