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Which Old School 50Kw clear blowtorch do you think has the best overall signal?
- Thread starter GRS86
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From about 1962 to at least 1965.
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WSM has a great signal during the night. I've also heard it several times in Charleston during the day in good locations without a lot of noise, usually during the winter or spring. WTAM usually comes in at night in the Charleston area, as it is the only American 1100 I have heard.
That's a bit ironic, as WHO is audible in the Seattle area when DX conditions are good. That would mean it's audible coast to coast.
I used to pull in every Class 1-A in the country, if the co-channels were off the air, from Portland Oregon. WNBC alluded me for the longest time but I finally got it with a Radio Shack long range portable. My friend had a 1940 upright RCA and he had no trouble getting it. Then, they broke down the clears and no one could get anything. 
I used to pull in every Class 1-A in the country, if the co-channels were off the air, from Portland Oregon. WNBC alluded me for the longest time but I finally got it with a Radio Shack long range portable. My friend had a 1940 upright RCA and he had no trouble getting it. Then, they broke down the clears and no one could get anything.
Back in the 60s I heard every NYC clear on the west coast, also WBZ. Even as late as 1980 I picked up WCBS in Southern California when KRVN was off the air. KFI was a regular nightly visitor in the midwest, but now you can't even hear it with all the clutter on 640.
When WHLO, WOI, and 640 in Toronto went fulltime, KFI was no longer heard. WJJD and others ended KSL DX.
KFBK!!
How did this thread go this far, and nobody brought up my Flamethrower, KFBK? (Franklin antennas sitting on a ground conductivity of 30)
From Fybush:
What a Franklin does, in exchange for the cost of building and maintaining such a massive structure, is to provide massive signal efficiency, and thus massive groundwave signal strength. According to the FCC, KFBK puts out 3545.89 mV/m, which happens to be the highest field strength of any U.S. AM station. The payoff of all that groundwave strength, coupled with the low radiation angle from the towers, is a resistance to skywave fading that most stations would envy.
http://www.fybush.com/sites/2005/site-051028.html
dave (flamethrower operator)
How did this thread go this far, and nobody brought up my Flamethrower, KFBK? (Franklin antennas sitting on a ground conductivity of 30)
From Fybush:
What a Franklin does, in exchange for the cost of building and maintaining such a massive structure, is to provide massive signal efficiency, and thus massive groundwave signal strength. According to the FCC, KFBK puts out 3545.89 mV/m, which happens to be the highest field strength of any U.S. AM station. The payoff of all that groundwave strength, coupled with the low radiation angle from the towers, is a resistance to skywave fading that most stations would envy.
http://www.fybush.com/sites/2005/site-051028.html
dave (flamethrower operator)
Actually for me I was still able to hear KFI until WMFN signed on. Before then I could pretty much null the other stations and still hear KFI.
Any towers being built around Peotone for the WMFN move? Seems like WOI, WHLO, and Toronto (can't keep track of all the call letter changes without looking it up, and then the US Database is likely to be out of date on the call letters) preceded WMFN by several years.
It amazes me that WJJD...WYLL with 50 kW Nighttime only needs 6 towers to protect the (Class I-A/A) KSL 0.5 mV/m 50% SKYWAVE, and so many Class III/Bs are limited to 15-25 kW Nighttime, even with more than 6 towers to protect circa 3 mV/m NIF GROUNDWAVES, a much smaller angular range even when quite a bit closer.
I don't know about the progress on the WMFN Peotone towers. Maybe somebody else on this board has a handle on it.
Personally, I'm not holding my breath for that to be built. I think it's a bargaining chip of some sort. Although with that said, the CP does appear to fit the Baruch business model of a big suburban (or even exurban) signal.
Does WYLL get into Eastern Michigan at night? I know they go straight north very well as I've heard them in Northern Wisconsin. Do they kill any chance for KSL in Eastern Michigan?
WJJD...WYLL gets into almost all of Michigan at Night, though not as well as the old 50 kW Limited time service in SE Michigan. WFEN...WCXI can be heard in some of SE MI at Night. In Northern Michigan, WYLL's new 50 kW Night pattern is very strong, I'm sure reaching 10 mV/m at times in some areas. I haven't heard KSL much since around 1980 when WJJD went to 5 kW Night from Des Plaines. But then, the new 1160s could also be heard at times in Northern MI.
WJJD when it was 50KW limited time used to be heard well on the east coast in the early evening before signoff. In the northern Illinois suburbs if I nulled WJJD, WSCR, WYLL, I was still able to hear KSL until the new WYLL pattern went into effect.
Remember in the movie "Somewhere In Time" where the main character played by the late Christopher Reeve was suddenly back in Chicago, after "driving" to Mackinac Island and back, waking up to WJJD. Seems like there was a WJJD jingle and time check. Remember the WJJD news sounder from the 1970s?
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