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Why can't 1010 Wins or Bloomberg Radio 1130 air the Giants games?
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Boomberg Radio doesn't have the rights. Simple as that. My question is, why not shift it to one of the CBS Radio HD channels?
I've always thought that it was because CBS was hesitant to preempt news programming on both of their news powerhouses simultaneously. With WINS in regular programming, if important news were to break you'd still have a place to turn to for updates.
Why send it to Bloomberg when you could keep it in house?
Why send it to Bloomberg when you could keep it in house?
reelyreal said:
Isn't this sort of event the perfect example of why HD radio is around? Promote that it will be on a HD sub-channel, and then you won't have problems with interrupting another stations programming. By promoting the fact that some games are going HD, you are forcing the hand of the listener. If they are desperate enough, then they will make the change.
I'm glad they don't run the overflow on WINS. It's nice that whenever you tune in 1010 you will hear an all news format. It's a good move by CBS. Consistency is a wonderful thing and 1010WINS is probably the most consistent station in New York radio. You always know what you are getting.
I believe that it is written in the contracts that the Mets have preference for WFAN. If there is a conflict the contract states the Giants must be on a CBS owned station. Until a few years ago those games were on 92.3 FM, but now they are aired on 101.1 FM. At the very end of the baseball season when the Mets are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, they voluntarily move to WBBR while the Giants are on WFAN.
Bruce
Bruce
Last year when the regular season began, all Giants games aired on 660 AM. Overlapping Mets games aired on 1130 AM. By then, the Mets were well out of contention and that will again be the case this year.
Giants' games would not have to carried on WCBS-FM if WFAN moves to FM and 660 becomes CBS Sports Radio 24/7.
Giants' games would not have to carried on WCBS-FM if WFAN moves to FM and 660 becomes CBS Sports Radio 24/7.
We should not lose sight of the fact that the Jets-Giants game was pre-season, while baseball is still well inside the regular season.
And regular season games should take precedence.
This is just an educated guess, but when WBBR, or WNYM, airs a spillover game those stations just get paid a flat fee for taking the full feed from the station that has the "rights" and putting it on the air. Those stations have no rights themselves, and essentially become a block time relay station for the games. Remember, WBBR and WNYM don't even pay to get Arbitron ratings.
As has been stated, if CBS can put the broadcast on a station it owns, and avoid paying the fee to WBBR or WNYM, for a highly rated weekend football game, it should. Constantly bouncing regular programming off the air for the many basketball and hockey conflicts on weeknights during those long seasons is a different story. Football conflicts are far more rare, and happen most on Sundays early in the season.
The fact is that most fans are not desperate enough to be forced to buy another radio. Most fans watch the games on TV, radio is just a service for those fans who, for some reason, don't have the option to watch. HD radio hasn't even got the smallest fraction of market penetration needed before it could exclusively carry a major sports team's games. Sponsors won't pay for their ads to be carried on stations only a small fraction of potential listeners have radios to receive. Carrying major games only on HD would just be a huge missed opportunity to attract the biggest audience possible.
I know areas 15-miles from the Empire State Building where HD radio cannot be received, and that problem gets worse the farther from the transmitter you get. I like the idea of HD radio, but, for several technical and marketing reasons, it really isn't ready for the big leagues, and won't be for a very long time.
And regular season games should take precedence.
This is just an educated guess, but when WBBR, or WNYM, airs a spillover game those stations just get paid a flat fee for taking the full feed from the station that has the "rights" and putting it on the air. Those stations have no rights themselves, and essentially become a block time relay station for the games. Remember, WBBR and WNYM don't even pay to get Arbitron ratings.
As has been stated, if CBS can put the broadcast on a station it owns, and avoid paying the fee to WBBR or WNYM, for a highly rated weekend football game, it should. Constantly bouncing regular programming off the air for the many basketball and hockey conflicts on weeknights during those long seasons is a different story. Football conflicts are far more rare, and happen most on Sundays early in the season.
The fact is that most fans are not desperate enough to be forced to buy another radio. Most fans watch the games on TV, radio is just a service for those fans who, for some reason, don't have the option to watch. HD radio hasn't even got the smallest fraction of market penetration needed before it could exclusively carry a major sports team's games. Sponsors won't pay for their ads to be carried on stations only a small fraction of potential listeners have radios to receive. Carrying major games only on HD would just be a huge missed opportunity to attract the biggest audience possible.
I know areas 15-miles from the Empire State Building where HD radio cannot be received, and that problem gets worse the farther from the transmitter you get. I like the idea of HD radio, but, for several technical and marketing reasons, it really isn't ready for the big leagues, and won't be for a very long time.
In Philly on Monday night, the Phillies were playing at the same time as the Eagles. The Eagles pre-season game was on WIP-AM & WIP-FM. The Phillies were on WPHT-AM and bumped to WOGL-FM. The Phillies are usually on WPHT and WIP-FM. So, it was baseball on the CBS oldies station here. So, 2 sports of 4/5 of the CBS stations in Philly. KYW was still All News All The Time.
recto101 said:
Or simply because WCBS has a better signal.
liradioisbad said:
ABSOLUTELY!!!! The Giants want nothing to do with a directional AM signal.
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