WIBC Flip Rumor TRUE - WXLW to lose ESPN - Time for Board Apologies!

[N_D_Radioguy]

Nothing personal - but who is Keven [sp] Lee in the grand scope of sports? Did he play the game? What are his credentials as a 'sports' expert? No different than Rakestraw, JMV or any other number of 'wannabes' in this area.

At this point, Mark Boyle makes perfect sense for an afternoon show. He's credible...

How exactly is Mark Boyle, who never played the game either, somehow more credible by the standard you just set? You're contradicting yourself. Either on the field experience matters or it doesn't. Mark never did two-a-days. Mark never stood at the free throw line down by one with two seconds left. Mark is excellent at play-by-play -- far and away the best at it in this town -- and would do an even better job should he return to sports talk than the solid job he did last time. I'm not arguing against Mark. However, you are not measuring people by the same standard.

For the record, Kevin Lee, Rake and JMV are all well into their 30s.

And when did "playing the game" somehow become important? There are guys who did who are good at talk -- Mike Golic, Doug Gottleib, John Riggins -- and those who are not -- Sean Salisbury, Joe Stasniak, Rob Dibble, Tim McCarver.

As for a list of sports talk and sportscasting greats who never "played the game":

Howard Cossell
Curt Gowdy
Al Michaels
Harry Caray
Jack Buck
Jim McKay
Bob Costas
Ernie Harwell
Chrs Schenkel
Harry Kalas
Dan Patrick
and a bunch more

Name one former athlete who can ANCHOR a show by himself without a real BROADCAST PROFESSIONAL to actually handle all the heavy lifting of running the show and teeing it up for said athlete.

Just one.

 

[radioho]

Simply amazing how people who cannot back up/support an argument take ONE WORD or ONE LINE out of context and go into left field with a completely off-center diatribe that has nothing to do with MY original statements.

I NEVER said the ONLY requirement to being a credible sports talk show host is to HAVE PLAYED THE GAME. I said:

"Did he play the game? What are his credentials as a 'sports' expert? No different than Rakestraw, JMV or any other number of 'wannabes' in this area."

"playing the game" is a big plus, but if you did not, then what OTHER credentials do you have? Lee has local low-level sports.

I NEVER wrote it was the ONLY requirement.

And we're talking about a LOCAL SPORTS TALK HOST, NOT a play by play position. If you did not play the game, or have not logged years and years at the highest level of your profession, then WHAT do you bring to local sports talk other than your keen sense of high school (BORING) sports?

What does Lee bring to the table? WIBC's racing guy? A LOCAL talk show buried at night? Same with Rakestraw, et al.

Boyle has recorded, what, over 20 years in the NBA - HIS credential is that he has BEEN at the highest level even back when the other locals were in middle school.

WHO sounds more credible? Boyle - or Lee?

It's a well-known fact in sports radio that if you PLAYED THE GAME, you are 50% closer to being credible than some kid who majors in Tcom at Butler and hops around from low-level sports to another. IF you did NOT play the game, AND you have not been at the NFL, NBA or MLB level (as the pbp, NOT a stat guy or color guy), then you are going to sound like an 'educated fan' like xlw and nde have right now.

NO contradiction here - just your wishful thinking.

 

[jughead]

When Boyle had his show on WNDE back in the early 1990s, it was the only and the best sports afternoon talk show in Indy.

With all the other sports shows which followed after Boyle stepped aside (Bragg and Benner, MPNOS, Sportsdesk, The Zone, JMV) because of the Pacers switch from 1260 to 1070 in 1994, his is still the one I measure all the others by.

To date - nothing has come close to touching Boyle on his intelligence and knowledge of sports.

Should Emmis go local after the Mike Tirico Show the person who should be behind the microphone is Boyle. There's no other logical choice in my mind. And during the Pacers season he can do as he did once at 1260 and do the show on location from courtside that afternoon for a Pacers home or away game.

To me a local show on 1070 will not succeed unless the person is Mark Boyle!

It would be a nice welcome back and a freshness to airwaves Indy hasn't had in over 15 years!

 

[EStreeter]

If Emmis is really willing to be risky, they could pull the plug on the national syndicate after Cowherd and go local from 1-6. If they can afford it, I really think that would be a bold, and potentially smart move. Since Patrick left, I have found the 1-3 slot a bit of a bore. And I don't think MT is really that good or entertaining. So why not go local from 1-6.

As for Boyle, would he even want the job again? I mean, I know he is married now, and being on the road for 6 months out of the year, would he even want to go back into the studio? Probably not at this stage in his life. But I could be wrong. I just hope they open up the search. That they are really willing to look at all avenues. Even take a flyer on someone that may have not been a traditional talk show host in the past. Entertainment is more important than a broad sports knowledge. That, or even opening up the slot(s) to a tandem or group rather than just one person to host the show. Worth considering in my opinion.

 

[radioho]

Estreeter - you were sports director at WKLU, you should apply.The only problem is you'd have to list Uncle Russ as a reference!

 

[N_D_Radioguy]

I NEVER said the ONLY requirement to being a credible sports talk show host is to HAVE PLAYED THE GAME.

Whether you meant for it to or not, it read like your only requirement.

Had you added other specific criteria than "did he play the game?" the distinction you intended may have been clearer. But it read like "Lee and Rake and JMV are bums BECAUSE they never played" and later "Mark Boyle is the cat's meow even though he never played either." That's the implied contradiction, intentional or not.

It's not always about how it's said, it's about how it's read.

BTW, I'm 1-million percent behind the Boyle idea and, yes, he sounds more credible than the others, and not just because of his resume but also what he brings on-air.

 

[EStreeter]

Estreeter - you were sports director at WKLU, you should apply.The only problem is you'd have to list Uncle Russ as a reference!

Ha. Good one Ho. Surprised you remembered that. Did you ever make it out to the show at McDonalds? ;D I'm extremely happy running AudioSportsOnline.com these days. But you know if the phone ever rang, I'd always be willing to answer.

In all seriousness though, I really hope Emmis is willing to get creative with this thing. I'm sure we will know shortly. Got to wonder who the list of candidates are at this point? I just think that if they put the time and effort into the search, they can come up with some really good ideas and some very exciting host(s).

 

[radioho]

I NEVER said the ONLY requirement to being a credible sports talk show host is to HAVE PLAYED THE GAME.

Whether you meant for it to or not, it read like your only requirement.

Had you added other specific criteria than "did he play the game?" the distinction you intended may have been clearer. But it read like "Lee and Rake and JMV are bums BECAUSE they never played" and later "Mark Boyle is the cat's meow even though he never played either." That's the implied contradiction, intentional or not.

It's not always about how it's said, it's about how it's read.

BTW, I'm 1-million percent behind the Boyle idea and, yes, he sounds more credible than the others, and not just because of his resume but also what he brings on-air.

And as stated earlier, nothing against Kevin Lee. I don't know him, never met him, and in my attempt to prove a point may have insulted his 'abilities.' That was not the intent.

 

[iluvri07]

NOW APOLOGIZE for your pompus attitude regarding these rumors!

The only attitude I read on r-i is yours. No apology needed.