TheBigA said:
Absolutely. Listen to their classic hits stations in NY (WCBS-FM), Philly (WOGL), Boston (WODS) and LA (KRTH). Very different-sounding stations musicially, all four.
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Will new york get another alt station once it is flipped to news/talk?
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Absolutely. Listen to their classic hits stations in NY (WCBS-FM), Philly (WOGL), Boston (WODS) and LA (KRTH). Very different-sounding stations musicially, all four.
How ironic is it that just this weekend, 'RXP started using a male voice in their liners and this afternoon, they aired a caller asking them to play Justin Bieber. Just like K-ROCK.
CTListener said:
Or maybe you can go up to Poughkeepsie and listen to "Fox Oldies" at 98.9, they got some good oldies there. It plays a lot of pre-Beatles stuff including the 50's and early 60's (with the rest of the 60's and 70's thrown in but no 80's), just like the old CBS-FM did back in the 80's and 90's when Joe McCoy was PD at the time, remember the jingles that Frank Gari produced over the years, that was a classic from back in the day, I wish they should've done that in the first place. "Fox Oldies" has the best personalities like Van Ritschie, Bob O, Buffalo Bob and Joe Manglass. This station has been on the air since late February, but it's still a good station to listen to.
Is WRRV 92.7/96.9 in Middletown NY the only remaining commercial alternative rock station in the region? The Cumulus station must be doing something right, as they have been primarily alternative for over 15 years.
I read an article which indicated that alternative stations tend to do better in urban areas than those featuring other modern rock formats. Apparently their audiences tend to be better educated, and have a higher percentage of female listeners, making them more attractive to advertisers.
Perhaps 'RXP should have been alternative, rather than the mishmosh of various forms of rock that they play.
BTW, in answer to the poster earlier in this thread that claimed that the group Bush is not popular, they just played Little Things, by Bush.
WRRV "The New Rock Alternative": http://www.wrrv.com/
I read an article which indicated that alternative stations tend to do better in urban areas than those featuring other modern rock formats. Apparently their audiences tend to be better educated, and have a higher percentage of female listeners, making them more attractive to advertisers.
Perhaps 'RXP should have been alternative, rather than the mishmosh of various forms of rock that they play.
BTW, in answer to the poster earlier in this thread that claimed that the group Bush is not popular, they just played Little Things, by Bush.
WRRV "The New Rock Alternative": http://www.wrrv.com/
I live in northern Westchester and depending on where I place my Walkman, WRRV can be heard better than 92.7 Garden City (sorry, I can't think of the calls). WRRV is a much more focused station on WRXP. They play a big variety, ranging from Seether to Dave Matthews and their '90s selections are comparable to 'RXP's and depending on the band or subgenre, more extensive.
RXP should now be referred to as "New York's Rock Experiment".
RXP should now be referred to as "New York's Rock Experiment".
Theater of My Mind said:
Most other markets have decent or even high rated Alternative stations though - New York, Miami, and Puerto Rico are the only decent sized markets without an Alternative or a commercial AAA
In order to hear WRRV clearly @ 92.7 you have to be at least in Orange County......WRRV makes it clearly almost to Sloatsburg before WQBU takes over......After that WQBU is quite strong throughout most of Central/Southern Rockland, NE Jersey & Westchester.......In Northern Rockland as you get up into the hills, there’s a lot more mixing of WQBU/WRRV.....I have picked up WRRB @ 96.9 in a few areas of Rockland but 97.1 WQHT is just too strong and kills the signal making it pretty much unlistenable in 90% of the county.....So really WRRV/WRRB has pretty much no useable signal within the immediate NYC metro which is quite sad as they do sound pretty good when I’m in the listening area.
Not sure what good it will do, someone setup a "Save Rock 101.9 RXP" over at Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Rock-1019-RXP/183092948414288
I think it is probably gone for good on 101.9 but perhaps if this really gets going another station will take interest in the format. I hate Facebook and refuse to be a part of it otherwise I would post there.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Rock-1019-RXP/183092948414288
I think it is probably gone for good on 101.9 but perhaps if this really gets going another station will take interest in the format. I hate Facebook and refuse to be a part of it otherwise I would post there.
Makes me want to start an anti-RXP one 
If I were WPLJ, I'd take advantage of this situation and go Modern AC - if they did it right, they'd probably get half of RXP's former audience
Emmis won't be in any kind of buying mode for the foreseeable future. One of, if not the main reason that the two stations in Chicago & one station in NYC were unloaded at this time was because Emmis had debt covenants coming due in September 2011 that couldn't be met without a quick and substantial infusion of cash. Granted, Emmis did what they could to retain their best properties by selling interest in under-performing stations rather than make a big score by selling a single big property. Also, by selling an estimated 80% interest in these stations, Emmis keeps their foot in the door in these markets, at least partially, for now.
I highly doubt we'll get another rock/alternative station here. I posted this in another thread which was why RXP didn't work and, perhaps, why an alternative/rock station won't work in this area in general.
As an avid alternative/rock fan who lives in NYC, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there will never be a radio station that serves my needs. That being said, I never listen to the radio so the idea of "hey, we need a station that plays OUR music" really just comes down to the fact that we want one available in case of an emergency but really have no interest in supporting it. Case in point, when I'm home visiting my parents in CT, if I need to borrow one of their cars, I'm glad there is a radio station I can flip to that is bearable. However, I'm never going to stream it or listen to it as opposed to listening to my own music and discovering new bands through my own filter of taste-makers. Chances are whatever RXP is hyping as the "hot new band", I've already heard of them 2-3 months ago.
The imaging of the station and DJ's are pretty lame too. It almost sounds like NPR in between songs, you get the feeling the DJ is filling up their Honda Prius in between breaks.
Finally, let's take a look at an hour of music programming. In a world that gets more and more fragmented (music-wise), RXP is STILL trying to kitchen sink model (even if it's gotten a bit better). Now, it's really only one or two songs an hour that have new business. Everyone, together now, let's all take a look at which band/artist DOESN'T belong in this set:
Nirvana
Billy Idol
311
Nine Inch Nails
Van Halen
Death Cab For Cutie
Goldfinger
Midnight Oil
Coldplay
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Sublime
U2
Silverchair
(HINT: It's a band that would basically be a washed-up bar band had it not been for a great guitarist).
Also, playing one current an hour, not very fun and exciting guys.
As an avid alternative/rock fan who lives in NYC, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that there will never be a radio station that serves my needs. That being said, I never listen to the radio so the idea of "hey, we need a station that plays OUR music" really just comes down to the fact that we want one available in case of an emergency but really have no interest in supporting it. Case in point, when I'm home visiting my parents in CT, if I need to borrow one of their cars, I'm glad there is a radio station I can flip to that is bearable. However, I'm never going to stream it or listen to it as opposed to listening to my own music and discovering new bands through my own filter of taste-makers. Chances are whatever RXP is hyping as the "hot new band", I've already heard of them 2-3 months ago.
The imaging of the station and DJ's are pretty lame too. It almost sounds like NPR in between songs, you get the feeling the DJ is filling up their Honda Prius in between breaks.
Finally, let's take a look at an hour of music programming. In a world that gets more and more fragmented (music-wise), RXP is STILL trying to kitchen sink model (even if it's gotten a bit better). Now, it's really only one or two songs an hour that have new business. Everyone, together now, let's all take a look at which band/artist DOESN'T belong in this set:
Nirvana
Billy Idol
311
Nine Inch Nails
Van Halen
Death Cab For Cutie
Goldfinger
Midnight Oil
Coldplay
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Sublime
U2
Silverchair
(HINT: It's a band that would basically be a washed-up bar band had it not been for a great guitarist).
Also, playing one current an hour, not very fun and exciting guys.
Do you think if 'RXP tried being an all-purpose modern rock station (current-heavy and no '80s")- sort of an active/alternative hybrid. Something along the lines of WZNE 94.1 in Rochester NY- look them up on YES.
The thing is, no rimshot station has alternative rock as a format either... WRRV comes close but it's blocked by WQBU once you leave Rockland County ;(
WPLR, WDHA, WRKI, etc. all have active/mainstream/classic rock formats but I doubt any will consider picking up alternative rock at all...
WPLR, WDHA, WRKI, etc. all have active/mainstream/classic rock formats but I doubt any will consider picking up alternative rock at all...
'PLR and 'RKI are basically classic rock stations with maybe one grunge and one Nickelback/3 Doors Down/Creed tune an hour, extremely safe. WDHA has a much larger selections of both classics and newer stuff including harder rock, although they're still majority classic rock.
hubcity said:
But this is why rock as a format is dying on the radio. The only way for it to attract enough audience is to be some form of hybrid. When you niche it down to active, modern, and alternative, you're just chopping the slice even smaller, and that doesn't work for radio.
The way country music became so dominant was by embracing all the various types of music in a single unified radio format. You don't hear every artist, but just about every style is represented, from pop to traditional, from the teenage American Idol winner to George Strait, who's old enough to be his grandpa.
I can get WRRV in West Milford but only for a little bit if your in the Hewitt Section of WM you can sort of get it. They need to upgrade their signal or move their station to NYC because their station is phenomenal. Those Hudson Valley Stations I think IMO do better job than some of the NYC stations and I get NYC stations clearer than HV stations!
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